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"Shakes....A humble suggestion.........."
Posted by Superman on 05-22-01 at 07:54 AM
LAST EDITED ON 05-22-01 AT 09:23 AM (EST)

Shakesvivor is an awesome thing. Many of us old-timers remember how the board all but died after the final episode of S1. This time around you have single-handedly sparked an interest that will last for weeks to come.

Suppose just for an instance your cast of characters actually competed, actually voted, actually won immunity...

For example;

Weekly random announcement of Immunity challenge..could be something as simple as an internet search to find the answer of a trivia question...or even (post merger) pick a number from 1 to 10...

He who responds first correctly wins Immunity...

Weekly vote: Contestants e-mail AK or you the vote...to keep it anonymous, y'know? Non-participants votes don't count and most likely they will be the initial bootees anyhow..

I know that there might be a concern that it just turns into a big popularity contest, but hey, you've got some big guns in here....and we're all friends, right?

...or you could just write your stellar summaries. (Why do I have the feeling that your response will be to highlight this line and post "Thanks! I think I will!)

It's your show clowny. It's just, as I said, a humble suggestion....

*Prepares himself to be the first bootee*

"Sniffing Glue Since 1974 and Still Going Strong"

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"RE: Shakes....A humble suggestion.........."
Posted by ItzLisa on 05-22-01 at 10:02 AM

>*Prepares himself to be the first bootee*

*** Oh, you will not either, Silly Rabbit! And I like your idea, Supes! You be burstin' with brains!

Whorin' it up, clown style!!!

"RE: Shakes....A humble suggestion.........."
Posted by mistofleas on 05-22-01 at 10:12 AM
I've been so busy at work that I haven't had a chance to comment, but Lisa babe...that sig pic is da bomb!!
I have this picture of you in my head, lookin' just like Bubbles, flying around the LA soundstage telling people they can't stand by the food table too long or park by the fire hydrant! You go girl!!

mistofleas
"RE: Shakes....A humble suggestion.........."
Posted by ItzLisa on 05-22-01 at 10:41 AM
>I've been so busy at work that I haven't had a chance to comment, but Lisa babe...that sig pic is da bomb!!
*** All the credit goes to LizzLover and IceCat!

>I have this picture of you in my head, lookin' just like Bubbles, flying around the LA soundstage telling people they can't stand by the food table too long or park by the fire hydrant! You go girl!!
*** LOL!!! Thanks Misty luv! I think a few people here got it into their minds that I'm a blondie because of being a Bubbles fan and my personality - but I don't look like her! But I'll be happy to zoom around the set - er, I mean *island*- keeping law and order!

**************************************
Whorin' it up, clown style!!!

"RE: Shakes....A humble suggestion.........."
Posted by Outfrontgirl on 05-22-01 at 01:15 PM
Shakes, please consider Supes' ideas. I thought we were going to get to play. Just being picked and put on a team gave me a lot of insight into the Survivor dynamic and the kinds of insecurities that come into play immediately. Yes, and it's even more like real world in some ways, because alliances have formed before it even starts, but still, it could be really interesting--especially if it's a game of wits and humor and there is immunity to throw a monkeywrench into the alliances.

Please consider letting all the contestants who want to play contribute with their own very entertaining voices, and then you get to take that material and bend it into your hysterical twisted summaries.

Really, your summaries will be funnier if you are commenting on real interactive material, just as with the Survivor summaries. After all, Mark Burnett could have hired people to act out his lame scripts verbatim (I know, some would have it that's how it works), but it's that little bit that's not under his control that makes the show worth watching, spoiling, bashing.

If people don't want to play, they'll just get voted off early. I don't think any of the participants will mind that!

I only ask that we get a window of time to get our responses in. I would even like to play in real time if we could get a time when everyone could log in.

You really have created a phenomenon here. Play it to the max!

"ONLY A PAWN IN SHAKES' GAME" (adapted from bobby zimmerman)

PS. Dear Clown Creator, please let us know if you're even listening to our prayers, er.. I mean reading this thread.)

"RE: Shakes....A humble suggestion.........."
Posted by Irisheyes on 05-23-01 at 05:07 PM
Supe has an excellent idea. But speaking from my limited experience with Shakes, he won't consider it. See he wants too much attention for himself and to let others participate would be taking the attention away from that. He hasn't even the courtesy to respond to this post or my previous post about this.

I am just itching for a fight with this guy. However a couple words will do it. Get over yourself!

"He did reply, IE"
Posted by flying squirrel on 05-23-01 at 05:53 PM
See posts #10 and #15.

Nice to come by and see some activity still going on. IE, you and ICB (which of the new identities is he? I thought he was Hatched and Pendragon was one of the Shakesvivors, but I can't be sure) should make sure to set up your own Bashers thread focused on EPSTC (to use the ss.com phrasing, Evil Pecker Shakes The Clown). You may even get "not shakes" to post on it!

"RE: Shakes....A humble suggestion.........."
Posted by mistofleas on 05-22-01 at 02:04 PM
Oh yeah, I've got a real life pic of you so I know you're not a blonde! I still think Bubbles so perfectly fits your personality. You are sweet and kind and cute on the outside, but when your feathers get ruffled...ooo doggies look at Lisa go!
I've decided I want to be a combination of you and Dalton when I grow up!
kisses

mistofleas
"I already asked him this question"
Posted by LIZZLOVER on 05-22-01 at 01:24 PM
http://community.survivorblows.com/boards/cgi-bin/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=443&forum=DCForumID6&omm=14

He replied that he was just going to write summaries, with no REAL competition.

Jack Handey
___________

LJI

"RE: I already asked him this question"
Posted by George Tirebiter on 05-22-01 at 02:29 PM
I think it's somehow more horrifying to have Shakes make it up based on our personnas as conveyed in our posts. . . (but Shakes--I AM willing to do extra duty under the Big Top to ensure I do well! )

GT

"RE: I already asked him this question"
Posted by VampKira on 05-22-01 at 02:37 PM
Ohhhhhhhhhh, I think this is an awesome idea!! I know Shakes already has it all figured out, but just IMAGINE the possibilities!! I vote yea! Hey AK!! Your thoughts on this??

w.l.s.f.c.

Du ar min hjälte, Supermänniska


"RE: I already asked him this question"
Posted by ItzLisa on 05-22-01 at 02:46 PM
>I think it's somehow more horrifying to have Shakes make it up based on our personnas as conveyed in our posts.
***But GT, we give him so much ammo!!! (LOL!)

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Whorin' it up, clown style!!!

"do you really think he cares?"
Posted by not shakes on 05-22-01 at 02:52 PM
you guys are living is a dream world if you think this
asshole actually cares what you people think! Haven't you seen the way he operates on the boards? The guy is nothing but a tyrant!

I saw him with my own eyes reading this thread and ya know what, he was laughing! And that caused me to laugh, which was a big mistake cause rule #1 here at the Shakes Compound is that never, under any circumstances are you allowed to laugh AT the clown! So, you know what he did when he saw me laughing.....he came over and threw a steaming hot tall double mocha latte with skim milk right in my face! And then he wouldn't even let me leave the office to go to the Emergency Room!

And you think he is actually gonna listen to YOUR suggestions! Why?! Cause you are part of the cast??? Do you think that makes you special? In the dickhead Clown's mind, that means that he is gonna treat you worse than the regular people on this board.....he was laughing in the elevator yesterday about how he is going to ruin all of your lives and have you hating each other by the time this whole charade is over!

Do yourself a favor and get out while you can!

Oh BTW, I see that some of you still don't believe that I have actual inside info so tomorrow night I am going to post the name of the first bootee.....that ought to silence all the critcis.

"JERK!!!!"
Posted by ItzLisa on 05-22-01 at 03:02 PM
LAST EDITED ON 05-22-01 AT 03:04 PM (EST)


Hey, you!!! Yeah, YOU...

> So, you know what he did when he saw me laughing.....he came over and threw a steaming hot tall double mocha latte with skim milk right in my face!
*** That's a dirty lie!!! Shakes would *never* do that! I'll bet it was your own stupid fault - you probably inhaled the foam and passed out into the latte, didn't you???

> And then he wouldn't even let me leave the office to go to the Emergency Room!
*** Again, blatant lies!!! I know for a fact that at Shakes Burnett Productions, he has a crack team of clown paramedics on hand at all times!! Of course, 20 of them arrive piled into a tiny little ambulance, but that's besides the point!

Hey, "shakes wannabe" - ooops! - I mean, "NOT shakes!" Did you downgrade this thread to a lower rating, you weenie??? Because *I* rated this with a ten this morning! I hope to meet you on the island, wimp boy! I'll throw a kangaroo in your face and hope it knocks you into a pit of monitor lizards! Pppphhhttttttttpppp!!!!!!

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Whorin' it up, clown style!!!

"Lisa, have mercy!"
Posted by dangerkitty on 05-22-01 at 03:16 PM
> I'll bet it was
>your own stupid fault -
>you probably inhaled the foam
>and passed out into the
>latte, didn't you???

ROFLMAO!!!!!! What an image!!

> a crack team of
>clown paramedics on hand at
>all times!! Of course,
>20 of them arrive piled
>into a tiny little ambulance,
>but that's besides the point!

*gasping for breath - tears streamming down face*

Lisa, if you are trying to kill me before the first challenge, you are doing a good job!! I'm not going to be able to even stand up if you hit me with this kind of stuff during competitions!

"Whatever charm school you went to, you should demand a full refund."
-a guy at my dojo, after I offered to kick his butt during sparring (he thought it wasn't very 'ladylike').

"RE: JERK!!!!"
Posted by not shakes on 05-22-01 at 03:31 PM
hey "ItzLisa and why the hell should we care", don't take it out on me just because you didn't make it to the merge! How is that my fault? Maybe if you played the game better and weren't so man-hungry you would've stuck around longer instead of becoming the sacrificial lamb in the Borneobores love triangle with those other two.....

But that's a story for another, not too far from now, time.....

Don't shoot the messenger....its the Clown you should be aiming at!

"RE: JERK!!!!"
Posted by George Tirebiter on 05-22-01 at 03:52 PM
>hey "ItzLisa and why the hell should we care", don't take it out on me just
>because you didn't make it to the merge!
Damn it all to hell! What kind of depressing game are you playing with our Itz?! I hate this spoiler, true or not!

>Maybe if you played the game better and weren't so man-hungry you would've stuck around
>longer instead of becoming the sacrificial lamb in the Borneobores love triangle with those other two.....
"Those other two" WHO?! The only love match here is between Vamps and Supe, and I can't believe they would offer up our little go-getter. . . If this is true, Itz, it will come back to haunt them, I swear!

This clown is just trying to mess with your great self-confidence, Itz--don't pay him any attention. They gave our tribe the stoopid name, and he's just trying to set us up as the underdog.


GT

"RE: JERK!!!!"
Posted by ItzLisa on 05-22-01 at 04:57 PM
LAST EDITED ON 05-22-01 AT 04:59 PM (EST)

>This clown is just trying to mess with your great self-confidence, Itz--don't pay him any attention. They gave our tribe the stoopid name, and he's just trying to set us up
as the underdog.

*** Don't worry, Georgia!! I know Supe and Vampy would never sacrifice me - we're merging together to hook up with DangerKitty and form a new Tagi Four! This disgruntled Shakes employee doesn't scare me one bit!

(*Stomps away muttering*) I *will* feed this jerk to the monitor lizards, don't even think I won't.... (and don't you *roll* your eyes at me, Girly Man!!!)

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Whorin' it up, clown style!!!

"Hey, now!"
Posted by LIZZLOVER on 05-22-01 at 07:12 PM
Whoa! Are fake flame wars acceptable in this game? If so, I would be more than happy to "fake" a flaming war with NOT SHAKES!!

Oh, and it would have nothing to do with being left out of the game!!

LJI
_______________________________________________________________
** It made me mad when they said I ran away like a scared rabbit. Maybe I'm an angry rabbit that was running away to another fight. **

"This is so sad..."
Posted by dangerkitty on 05-22-01 at 04:53 PM
What a pathetic cry-baby.

He lives a meaningless life of drudgery, dominated by a ClOWN for god's sake, and to top it off he puts skim milk in his latte! What a wimp!

His only hope is that he will get some attention by posting on these boards, but his inept social skills cause him to be an outcast right from the start. And it's too bad, because it would be nice to have someone to rely on for some dependable spoilers - but this guy is such a loose cannon, how can we trust him?

Listen, buddy, I'm sorry that your life sucks, okay? But if you want to be accepted and listened to here, you'd better adjust your attitude mighty quick. You're dealing with the upper-eschelon media whores of Shakesvivor, not some second-rate losers from a show like Fox's Love Cruise, for cryin' out loud.

"Whatever charm school you went to, you should demand a full refund."
-a guy at my dojo, after I offered to kick his butt during sparring (he thought it wasn't very 'ladylike').

"RE: This is so sad..."
Posted by ItzLisa on 05-22-01 at 05:03 PM
>and to top it off he puts skim milk in his latte! What a wimp!
*** ROFLMAO!!!! DK, this is why I hope to God we both last till the merge! You're killin' me!

>You're dealing with the upper-eschelon media whores of Shakesvivor, not some second-rate losers from a show like Fox's Love Cruise, for cryin' out loud.
*** OMG!!!! <click!>!!!!, I'm dyin' over here, quit it!!! LOL!!!!!


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Whorin' it up, clown style!!!

"RE: This is so sad..."
Posted by mistofleas on 05-22-01 at 05:09 PM
You and DK are killing me Lisa! Damn, I just know I'm gonna get fired.
*looks guiltily over her shoulder for the boss*

mistofleas
"RE: This is so sad..."
Posted by shanana banana on 05-22-01 at 08:35 PM
How much do you want to bet that Not Shakes IS Shakes?



shanana banana

"RE: Shakes....A humble suggestion.........."
Posted by Kismet on 05-22-01 at 03:02 PM
I like your suggestion Supe and I think it would be a great idea. However, what you are talking about takes a hell of a lot of time. I dont get the feeling that Shakes has a whole lot of that right now. He is a working lawyer, and the whole Love Cruise media tour will probably begin pretty quickly as well. I get the feeling he is in over his head as it is. He's even having to plant his own spoilers for crying out loud. I think we will be lucky to see the entire show play out. He hinted at this in his Press Release thread. The only way he could do what you suggest would require the aid of others around here, and maybe he will(not me I'm busy enough). If not, let's view Shakesvivor as a test run, and if it plays out well with no hard feelings, then next off season someone with more time could do what you are talking about.

Just my 3 cents,
Kismet

"RE: Shakes....A humble suggestion.........."
Posted by aymelek on 05-22-01 at 03:13 PM

>working lawyer

Isn't this what we would call an oxymoron...?


"Agree with Kismet"
Posted by AyatollahKhomeini on 05-22-01 at 05:05 PM
I can say from experience that real voting, coupled with real alliances and a real game, is not only unbelievably time-consuming for both the players and the producers, but may lead to real hostilities afterward (and you guys thought Jerri was nasty -- wait until you experience a double-cross yourselves).

As host, my advice to shakes is to keep the proceedings as divorced from reality as possible. If anyone has lots of time to spare (in other words, no life) and wants to coordinate a real game, that's fine, but expect it to take over your life...

"I can vouch for that..."
Posted by Survivorerist on 05-22-01 at 05:19 PM
>>>expect it to take over your life...<<<

Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. I did host it and it was loads of fun but also loads of work. I only had 7 challenges and even that took me the better part of a night to think of and create. Bottom line, it's a blast but takes a lot of time...

================

Survivorerist

"RE: I can vouch for that..."
Posted by ItzLisa on 05-22-01 at 05:26 PM
LAST EDITED ON 05-22-01 AT 05:31 PM (EST)

Okay, I don't mean to get all serious here, but I promise, promise PROMISE - I *do* understand that this is just a game, we're only playing and killing some time till S3, and that we can't expect too much from Shakes as he does have to work! And that any double-crosses or bad things that happen to me on the "island", I will *not* take offense to, be angry, etc. - I know we're just playing around and this is just for fun! And I know that this "Not Shakes" guy is one of us playing around, and that we're all acting and re-acting to the predictable "I worked for Mark Burnett and here's what happened" Unclecameraman types! We'll keep it all in fun, won't we, you guys?

And Shakes - we love ya! Thanks bunches for coming up with something to keep us occupied and the boards hoppin' till S3 gets in gear! You only do what you can, okay? We'll be here!
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Whorin' it up, clown style!!!

"RE: Shakes is driving the BUS...."Shakesvivor" wise....."
Posted by Dalton on 05-22-01 at 09:08 PM
I WOULDN'T HAVE IT ANY OTHER WAY!!!

While I understand the "need" to make what seem
like perfectly good suggestions.....and perhaps
pitch a hissy fit over the weirdness of it all...
there really is nothing to be done!!!

It is a game going on in the Clown's head and he
is going to write summaries about it that have
a lot or absolutely nothin to do with nothin cept
making HIMSELF HAPPY!!!!

But in the meantime....ItzLisa all us snotty Arses on
my team would appreciate it if you would STOP
assuring DK a spot w/Supe/Vamp/Lisa AFTER the
Merger....DUH!! I like DK and if she gets booted
for a backstabbing traitor for the "enemy team"....
well, it will be ALL your fault!!!

Also, check your back Itz....with the MEN on your
team ya should have gone for "Ditzy Blond w/Bubble
Brains". Might have been the "smart move". LOL.

Anywhoooo, I figure Shake's way will save me scads
of time....I'll just read his Summary every week
and not have to watch the teevee show at all.

Dalton
sig pic of "Princess Lotus Blossom" pending/on hold
somewhere here on OT....GAG...I submitted a "pic".
Officially a media whore now...LOL.

"RE: I can vouch for that..."
Posted by Outfrontgirl on 05-22-01 at 05:32 PM
Yeah, that's all true. And I do have a life, but I love games.
Resigned...
But I expect the media to expose the manipulations, distortions, and cover-ups, and especially the blatant use of body doubles to simulate sex acts.

And since there's absolutely no prize money, what's to keep the cast from leaking what really went on?

So sue me, Shakes, I'm feeling judgment proof!

"RE: I can vouch for that..."
Posted by Kismet on 05-22-01 at 07:00 PM
>Yeah, that's all true. And
>I do have a life,
>but I love games.

Hey OutFrontGirl, I am so glad you are posting over here on Off Topic. For those of you who don't know, OFG, RR and I are old players from Survivor Market where I think we all got our start on this board. I can tell you that she is a fierce competitor and I wouldn't overlook her potential.

By the way OFG, Have you noticed that skierdude13 is remarkably similar to ski4speed44 the notorious cheat from our glory days on the Market? You are on the same team as he is. Do you think Shakes is planning a real 'beef jerky incident', and setting you up to uncover the cheat?

Kismet
P.S. I know none of the 'cool' people(except Erist and Koko) played that game but a quick glance at the Suvivor Market thread "The Scarlett C" will explain what I'm talking about. Yes I AM too lazy to link to it!

"SurvivorMarket"
Posted by AyatollahKhomeini on 05-22-01 at 07:19 PM
Kismet, as OFG probably remembers, I played SurvivorMarket at first (she used to drive me crazy by offering to sell shares for 25 cents less than my price -- no matter what price I set!). Then the people at MarketEcho were revealed as a bunch of weasels (I won't go into the details here), and I stopped playing -- I didn't want to help their site. Too bad; I had a bunch of honest shares of Tina as the winner....
"RE: SurvivorMarket"
Posted by Outfrontgirl on 05-22-01 at 07:43 PM
Hi Kismet--I'm happy to see you posting too.
You should have been drafted for your bull-shirt story alone; that was so funny. Shakes' loss. Oh, that's right, you didn't want to betray your husband. Good for you!

You know, I wondered about the skier doubles at the time. Both using numbers, too. Ski44 once had the nerve to post on Market echo to find out why he didn't get paid off on Jerri for the RC.
When he was cheating so hard and being flamed in an adjacent thread, too. I don't know, our skierdude doesn't seem that scheming, but he could have an evil twin.

AyaK, I'm really sorry I frustrated you with the .25 thing, although then Kismet was doing it to me, vice versa, and several others, and the rest of us talked about it on a thread.

Truly though, that was because we were competing to sell our worthless stock that we got as marketmakers (or what we thought worthless, not always the same), and you have to have aggressively competitive pricing to sell stuff that will shortly become of no value whatsoever.

I never undersold the stock I believed in--thus I ended up with a lot invested in Tina too.

That's interesting to hear they were weasels at ME. I didn't hear anything about it until they closed down. I'm just hoping Shakes isn't about to pull a Market Echo and shut down the show in midseason. If you can't finish it, you shouldn't get people into it (mmm, that applies to so many things).

"RE: SurvivorMarket"
Posted by Kismet on 05-22-01 at 08:59 PM
AK I'm sorry I didn't include you in the 'cool regulars' category. I remember seeing your name, but you never posted in the SM treads during the fiasco so I forgot. IIRC, You and Webby stopped playing at about the same time, was it because of ME? I wish you had posted about the 'weasel' aspect.

OFG-Ski4speed actually posted on the Closing down thread. He was complaining that it was shut down and he was #1. I responded with my first and thus far only flame. It was like therapy! (No, I didn't report it in the news guide, that would be a conlift of interest.

I am glad you liked my 'bull-shirt' story. I am also glad I am watching from the sidelines on this one. Much more fun to watch report the madness than participate in it. I'm rooting for you girl!

Kismet

Got to go Buffy is on!

"MarketEcho redux"
Posted by AyatollahKhomeini on 05-22-01 at 09:34 PM
>IIRC, You and Webby stopped playing at about the same
>time, was it because of ME?

If ME stands for MarketEcho, the answer is yes. But we didn't want to ruin anyone else's fun ... we didn't think they'd fold up and slink away back to the sewer as quickly as they actually did.

"RE: SurvivorMarket"
Posted by AyatollahKhomeini on 05-22-01 at 09:13 PM
>AyaK, I'm really sorry I frustrated you with the .25 thing,
>although then Kismet was doing it to me, vice versa,
>and several others, and the rest of us talked about
>it on a thread.

It was lots of fun. I had to check my positions several times a day, because I knew that it was going to happen. But, other than the cheats, there were lots of good players in SurvivorMarket ... for S3, we need a game that works!

>I'm just hoping Shakes isn't about to pull a Market
>Echo and shut down the show in midseason. If
>you can't finish it, you shouldn't get people into it
>(mmm, that applies to so many things).

I'll leave that last line for Love Cruise.

"Exactly! And remember these things..."
Posted by dangerkitty on 05-22-01 at 08:02 PM
>But I expect the media to
>expose the manipulations, distortions, and
>cover-ups, and especially the blatant
>use of body doubles to
>simulate sex acts.

100% agree!! And Shakes himself has said that he has no control over the media. So we can expect a lot of info to get out that Shakes withheld or distorted in his summaries (and you know he will...).

>
>And since there's absolutely no prize
>money, what's to keep the
>cast from leaking what really
>went on?

True, true! We're bound to get some conflicting stories from the cast, but the public can sift through it all and decide for themselves.


Remember: the "summaries" will only be an incomplete, biased accounting of events on a heavily edited "show". There is far more activity taking place outside of the summaries than in the summaries!


"Whatever charm school you went to, you should demand a full refund."
-a guy at my dojo, after I offered to kick his butt during sparring (he thought it wasn't very 'ladylike').