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"X-Factor USA Top 5 Results ECST"
Posted by Snidget on 12-08-11 at 08:33 PM
Keep all judge fights, judge snits, judge gloats, host misfunctions and results on this thread until the West Coast knows how far they have to run to avoid the semi finals.
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"RE: X-Factor USA Top 5 Results ECST"
Posted by Estee on 12-08-11 at 08:40 PM
If we're this desperate to see people humiliating themselves, shouldn't we just flip over to ABC and watch Wipeout?
"RE: X-Factor USA Top 5 Results ECST"
Posted by Snidget on 12-08-11 at 08:58 PM
Isn't that down a notch or two on the humiliation scale?
"RE: X-Factor USA Top 5 Results ECST"
Posted by Estee on 12-08-11 at 09:13 PM
Where do you think they borrowed Rene's slidewalk from?
"RE: X-Factor USA Top 5 Results ECST"
Posted by Snidget on 12-08-11 at 09:01 PM
5 acts become 4. Let's watch a dream die, shall we?

Lennie Kravitz will provide the soundtrack.

"RE: X-Factor USA Top 5 Results ECST"
Posted by Estee on 12-08-11 at 09:13 PM
Let's watch a dream die, shall we?

Oh, is Chris Harrison in the audience?

"RE: X-Factor USA Top 5 Results ECST"
Posted by Estee on 12-09-11 at 09:14 AM
In retrospect, the 'dream die' and 'humiliation' bits went ironic.
"RE: X-Factor USA Top 5 Results ECST"
Posted by Snidget on 12-09-11 at 10:45 AM
Who knew they were reading this and taking my sarcasm as direction?
"Recrappage"
Posted by Snidget on 12-08-11 at 09:10 PM
Judge talk.

Best of luck no matter what happens as the host tries to keep from being shot on stage by one of the judges.

"RE: Recrappage"
Posted by Estee on 12-08-11 at 09:12 PM
Did he just say they were going to reveal the four safe acts? No death duel tonight?
"RE: Recrappage"
Posted by Snidget on 12-08-11 at 09:20 PM
I wasn't paying that much attention, but based on the next segment they are doing a death duel.
"And cue the drama music"
Posted by Snidget on 12-08-11 at 09:19 PM
Judges with the contestants.

3 acts straight through, bottom two will sing for survival in the final showdown.

ba bum ba bum

In no particular order the first act through is...

Josh Krajcik. Nicole's ovulating again.

Second act through...

Chris Rene

Simon has to wait.

Only one more goes straight through, after the break.

"RE: And cue the drama music"
Posted by Estee on 12-08-11 at 09:22 PM
And the X cut the host off in mid-word. I guess his timing was off,,,

This probably works out to Marcus vs. one of the girls: I can't see him as having picked up enough votes to stay out of B2. Which would then make the question 'Is the rest of the panel still in 'Screw you, Simon' mode?' Because if they are, then Marcus escapes again just because the other power seats know they're fired oat the end of the year anyway.

Simon can't feel good about his chances right now. The commoners have already revolted -- and under his own treaty, he can't disarm them.

"Waiting back stage"
Posted by Snidget on 12-08-11 at 09:25 PM
LAST EDITED ON 12-08-11 AT 09:26 PM (EST)

Host gets to demonstrate his ability to talk to young kids, or not.

Marcus plays the God card

Melanie loses her accent when she's scared?

Mary J. Blige

Why does she have a urine colored diamond spinning on her head?

"RE: Waiting back stage"
Posted by Estee on 12-08-11 at 09:29 PM
Because she represents the Element of Filler.
"Back to results"
Posted by Snidget on 12-08-11 at 09:36 PM
Catch up with the safe WGWGs.

Pepsi challenge songs next week.

3 acts still waiting.

The act America is bringing back next week is...

Melanie Amaro

Marcus and Rachel will sing for survival.

"RE: Back to results"
Posted by Estee on 12-08-11 at 09:41 PM
So are we playing Best Performer, or Simon Doesn't Say? The first should have Rachel safe and the second has her solidly out...

And meanwhile, the Worsters may be wondering if they finally have their horse. A horse they hope to see relapse onto horse. Double-ridden.

Well, the Worsters who are still awake, anyway.

"Sing off"
Posted by Snidget on 12-08-11 at 09:46 PM
Marcus Canty

I'm Goin' Down

He loves the goodbye sounding songs for a save me doesn't he?

Rachel Crow

I'd Rather Go Blind

Also sounds like a goodbye song.

"RE: Sing off"
Posted by Estee on 12-08-11 at 09:50 PM
Rachel won the match. (I'm not expecting an argument on this, mostly because there aren't enough people here to stand a chance of finding one.)_ I just don't know if that matters. Power politics aren't about making sure you win: its about making sure the other person loses.

Fair vote or four-person Congress? We're about to find out.

"Sending Home"
Posted by Snidget on 12-08-11 at 09:56 PM
LA says toughest part of the show. Both great. Really surprised me Rachel. Prepared for you to be slaughtered but did an amazing job. Marcus killed it like always. Man of principle stand by my man

Send Rachel Home.

Simon. What is the point of saying anything. I will miss you

Marcus you are going home.

Paula. This was the most unbelievable Chanting so loud you can barely hear Paula. The one who blew me away was Rachel.

Marcus going home.

Nicole, crying. Rachel says please don't cry it is OK. I can't make this decision. Sends to deadlock.

Steve makes her say Rachel to make it go to deadlock.

Have to send home Rachel.

We are in dead lock.

And they have a graphic for that.

The act that got the lowest number of votes will be going.

Crowd chanting.

The act that got the lowest number of votes and who America is sending home is...

Rachel Crow.

W..o..w.

Rachel collapses in tears. Sobbing so loudly.

"RE: Sending Home"
Posted by Estee on 12-08-11 at 10:04 PM
Nicole could not be more fired.

Poor Rachel. You could tell she was trying to be strong, she was pulling out every bit of willpower she had -- and then the last announcement hit her like a gunshot. There was a split-second when I thought she had been shot.

The sobbing wasn't that loud: part of it was the microphone. But it was sincere. She's just a kid, and she just got told that America doesn't love her, she can't pull her family out on her own, and so much for that bathroom. Too much for one moment, when your innocence goes and you find out just how stupid the population of this country is. *sigh* Poor kid.

And at the end, Nicole turns away and says nothing. Cowardice often does.

Simon? More rehearsed for this latest stab. (During his vote speech, he basically claimed nothing he could say would matter, and I wondered if he knew some kind of fix was in.) Even Timekeeper held things together a little more on Take Two. But in the end -- a young girl just got told she wasn't loved. And there's no way to make that into anything but televised pain.

"RE: Sending Home"
Posted by Snidget on 12-08-11 at 10:10 PM
Far too young for the slings and arrows of the build 'em up to tear 'em down of TV.

Hard enough on adults, but that age you are going to get meltdowns.

I hope they have a big therapy budget for this show.

"RE: Sending Home"
Posted by frodis on 12-09-11 at 12:28 PM
The sobbing wasn't that loud: part of it was the microphone.

Part of it was that someone turned up her microphone once they realized that she was having a meltdown. Because watching a child experience heartbreak is good fun.


"Tries to interview Nicole"
Posted by Snidget on 12-08-11 at 10:00 PM
Had the sense not to try with the sobbing Rachel.

Puts the microphone in her face, she can't talk, audience boooos, she turns away.

Rachel off crying with Paula.

"Dear America,"
Posted by Estee on 12-08-11 at 10:06 PM
You're stupid.

Sincerely,
those of us who are going to watch Melanie go home next week.

@#$%ing fraus.

"RE: Dear America,"
Posted by csnumber23 on 12-08-11 at 11:35 PM
I would think and hope Melanie gets Rachel and Drew's votes and goes to the final two and maybe wins.
"RE: Dear America,"
Posted by Estee on 12-09-11 at 09:28 AM
*shakes head* Under the current voting population, no female can win a singing competition based in public tally. Period. And with Rachel's voters -- a morning mini-survey shows a lot of her fanbase declaring they're never going to watch this thing again. I think a good number of them are taking their ballots and going home. If you told them they could vote against someone, maybe they'd stick around to take inappropriate revenge -- but without that, this show just bled out a few more viewers. The replay of that last nightmare may draw in a few lovers of bridge collapses, sure. I still think the overall ratings will drop next week.

Take the typical frau voting pattern and Josh has had this won for a while now. And he wouldn't be the worst possible winner from the original thirteen. But he's not winning it on talent. He's getting five million dollars based on the number of people who want him as their personal burrito chef.

"RE: Dear America,"
Posted by Snidget on 12-09-11 at 09:47 AM
*nods*

I think they thought adding the twitter votes and the really young contestants would finally get the teens/tweens to swamp out the frau vote.

I don't think there is anything that is going to break the frau vote anytime soon.

"RE: Dear America,"
Posted by frodis on 12-09-11 at 12:08 PM
I don't disagree that America is stupid.

However, what incentive is there for them to vote at all, if the judges make the call on who goes home (except when they don't, for whatever inexplicable reason.)

I can see America thinking that Rachel is safe, both from the bottom and from the judges cut, and thus throwing votes elsewhere. America should have counted on Nicole being stupid, which I suppose makes America stupid anyway, but in this case I tend not to blame America for not voting when their votes don't really mean much anyway.

(who woulda thunk that X Factor would make a good teaching opportunity for how the Electoral College works?)

"Even self-appointed evil has standards."
Posted by Estee on 12-08-11 at 10:11 PM
LAST EDITED ON 12-08-11 AT 10:17 PM (EST)

At this writing, the Worster live update thread for tonight's results show stands at two pages, thirty-eight posts.

There is nothing written by any member from 8:54 p.m. EST on.

ETA: Oh, who was I kidding? It was just a server freeze on their thread listing page. They largely enjoyed the meltdown. A few of them were wondering about Rachel's apology to her mother (I understand it: she feels she let her family down) -- but for the most part, it's 'Emotional upset? We win!' However, there's an undercurrent here -- and it shows up in Nicole's very frequently used nickname.

I can't reproduce it here.

"Insta-hate?"
Posted by Estee on 12-08-11 at 10:19 PM
LAST EDITED ON 12-08-11 AT 10:23 PM (EST)

If you could run a search engine through Twitter to find the number of tweets containing 'Fire Nicole' from the last thirty minutes, would you break five digits?

And by you, I mean 'someone other than me'. I've been trying for the last five minutes, but Twitter and this computer have never gotten along and the page keeps freezing midload.

"RE: Insta-hate?"
Posted by Snidget on 12-08-11 at 10:26 PM
Well 26 tweets with the first to refreshes after I ran the search.
"RE: Insta-hate?"
Posted by Estee on 12-08-11 at 10:31 PM
52 now. (A partial page finally came up.)

Incredibly, some of them now support bringing Cheryl back.

"Twitter update."
Posted by Estee on 12-09-11 at 07:20 AM
A few hundred more 'Fire Nicole' tweets and the start of the inevitable (and pointless) petition.
"RE: Twitter update."
Posted by Snidget on 12-09-11 at 12:56 PM
One of her fan sites is getting a mega-load of hate mail and is trying to calm it down by reminding them they aren't her official site, they have no mechanism to contact her anyway, and they just post news about her goings on for any remaining fans who want to keep up on the news (or now where she will be for the rotten tomato showers).
"Check the tape"
Posted by Snidget on 12-08-11 at 11:06 PM
In light of the interview with Steve on Ellen, and a comment I saw I rechecked the DVR.

While Rachel was in early meltdown Steve steps aside and I'm sure they are yelling in his ear to do something to make good TV out of the melt down and he steps back looks right at the cameras. Shakes his head with his lips pursed up.

I think maybe he's starting to decide being human is more important than whatever the producers are screaming in his ear.

"RE: Check the tape"
Posted by frodis on 12-08-11 at 11:56 PM
I noticed that, too, and pointed it out to Mr. Fro. Whatever he was told to do, he refused to do it.

Good for him. That was an ugly scene.

"RE: Check the tape"
Posted by Estee on 12-09-11 at 09:21 AM
You can just hear the producers, can't you? 'Ask her how much of a failure she feels like! Tell her she's invalidated her entire life! Pull her hair!' But Steve has to suspect he's not coming back next year, and that gives him the freedom to start playing things his way a little more.

Or he just found the line he wouldn't cross. Unlike, say, Nicole.

"Yet another misfire."
Posted by Max Headroom on 12-08-11 at 11:17 PM
My ears start bleeding every time Chris Rene approaches a microphone, yet he wasn't even in the bottom two? Wow.

And that was an incredibly weak effort by Nicole.

"RE: Yet another misfire."
Posted by csnumber23 on 12-08-11 at 11:22 PM
Absolutely agree! He has no talent in my book. Also, I wasn't huge on Rachel but Marcus has been down there 3 straight weeks because he isn't that good. Even LA Reid should have sent him home! Nicole really?? Now you put it to America? I still completely stand by if neither Josh or Melanie win I will not watch next year. However, I do expect one of those two to win.
"RE: Yet another misfire."
Posted by emydi on 12-09-11 at 11:46 AM
LAST EDITED ON 12-09-11 AT 12:01 PM (EST)

Posts on VFTW say Jesse Pinkman... er Chris Rene has a huge fan base plus he's a young WGWG I think it comes down to the 2 WGWG

Is it a final three or two the last week and is it all America's vote in the final...I have to go check those rules


eta: Found it

Live Shows:

The finals consist of a series of two live shows, the first featuring the contestants' performances and the second revealing the results of the public voting, culminating in one or more acts being eliminated. Celebrity guest performers also feature regularly. Once the number of contestants has been reduced to five, the format changes. Each act performs twice in the first show, with the public vote opening after the first performance. This continues until only three acts remain. These acts go on to appear in the grand final which decides the overall winner by public vote.

http://thexfactorusa.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=177

Ok Melanie gets into F3 but doesn't win

"RE: X-Factor USA Top 5 Results ECST"
Posted by agman on 12-09-11 at 12:52 PM
The show is rigged just like AI and probably every other reality show.
"Does he think it's too good for her?"
Posted by Estee on 12-09-11 at 04:46 PM
Simon has reportedly stated he will not fire Nicole.

In response, some people have now switched to urging her to quit.

"I voted"
Posted by moonbaby on 12-11-11 at 10:43 AM
a huge amount of times for Melanie this past week. I rarely vote during shows like this but I'm going to do what I can to keep another WGWG from winning. Seriously.

Oh and judges? It's not about you.

"RE: X-Factor USA Top 5 Results ECST"
Posted by agman on 12-12-11 at 04:57 PM
I'm really curious to see what kind of reception Nicole gets this week!...I hope it's a chorus of boos!