Yes, I probably could have searched and found a home for this in another thresd. But there are some unique features that I want to point out.

In Survivor 4, Kathy was abrasive and had early arguements.

In Survivor 5, Shii Ann has been abrasive and had spats with Robb and Steph (and possibly Jed, since he voted for her and was told by others they'd vote for her).

In Survivor 4, Kathy did a good bit of early narrarating(sp?).

In Survivor 5, Shii Ann is doing a good bit of early narrarating(sp?).

In Survivor 4, Kathy had a chance to pee on someone's injury, and helped John out.

In Survivor 5, Shii Ann had a chance to do the same... but didn't help out her "buddy" Robb. (okay, this was thrown in for humor, work with me here)

In Survivor 4, Kathy was on the fringe, if not the right outside, of her original tribe's main alliance. (I say the fringe because Pappy and Neleh DID keep her over Gina later).

In Survivor 5, Shii Ann is being edited as in the main SJ alliance... but barely.

In Survivor 4, Kathy went to the other tribe in the random swap. This helped her to survive.

In Survivor 5, Shii Ann was given pause to go to the other tribe. This might have helped her if she had.

And the biggie:

In Survivor 4, KATHY was frequently selected by early vote polls to visit Loser Lodge. As a matter of fact, she didn't leave until she'd secured the Bronze, thanks partially to (coco)nut-busting, a purple rock, and the ol' bra trick. And when she got there, the walls were moving in on her, so she said.

In Survivor 5, there seems to be strong interest in choosing SHII ANN to visit the Lodge. There is also spoiler information that Shii Ann gets a medal (bronze or better). (I shall not name the source of this spoiler, but he apparently used to jump out of perfectly good aircraft while in flight... as did I.)

So the only questions are: Will the walls move in on Shii Ann? Will the bra trick work on HER, of all people? *ducking for cover*

Seriously, I think this is a parallel that invites study among the spoiler cogniscenti of the board. Your comments?

"All of us necessarily hold many casual opinions that are ludicrously wrong simply because life is far too short for us to think through even a small fraction of the topics that we come across. -- Julian Simon

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• RE: Shii Ann: The "Kathy" of Survivor 5,erikman, 00:17 AM, 10-19-02
  • RE: Shii Ann: The "Kathy" of Survivor 5,IslandFever, 00:27 AM, 10-19-02
• RE: Shii Ann: The "Kathy" of Survivor 5,MattyMax, 00:57 AM, 10-19-02
• RE: Shii Ann: The "Kathy" of Survivor 5,Jims02, 10:44 AM, 10-19-02
  • RE: Shii Ann: The "Kathy" of Survivor 5,I_AM_HE, 07:03 PM, 10-19-02
  • off topic comment for Jims02,corcam, 10:57 PM, 10-19-02
    • RE: off topic comment for Jims02,Jims02, 01:56 PM, 10-20-02
      • RE: off topic comment for Jims02,fivestarwheezy, 10:07 PM, 10-20-02
  • RE: Shii Ann: The "Kathy" of Survivor 5,PhoenixMons, 09:02 AM, 10-21-02
• RE: Shii Ann: The "Kathy" of Survivor 5,steppingrazor42, 04:30 PM, 10-19-02
  • RE: Shii Ann: The "Kathy" of Survivor 5,oatarut, 06:10 PM, 10-19-02
    • RE: Shii Ann: The "Kathy" of Survivor 5,SaphireLady, 11:35 PM, 10-19-02
      • RE: Shii Ann: The "Kathy" of Survivor 5,ShowMeTheWinner, 04:10 AM, 10-20-02
        • RE: Shii Ann: The "Kathy" of Survivor 5,SaphireLady, 02:11 PM, 10-20-02
          • RE: Shii Ann: The "Kathy" of Survivor 5,psileste, 03:10 PM, 10-20-02
• RE: Shii Ann: The "Kathy" of Survivor 5,jkokoj, 10:27 AM, 10-21-02

well she is on paratroopers fire pic of f3 of brian, ted, and shii. she has the most story of the sucks, besides robb. gdiva friends pics is the bigest thing keeping her on the boot list.

Seems like Jed in particular was a little ticked off with her in his comments, implying that is his estimation that she went farther than he thought she deserved. She would not be a threat after the merge and could be the last to go from her tribe.

Dawg, Shii has a Capricorn cusp, which definitly reminds me of Kathy. She's also on Aquarius, which means she's a thinker, an air.

If nothing else, these girls WORK and are ALWAYS TINKING.

Erin says that she thinks that Shii is on the s**t list, and that Shii ann didn't know, but She knew. Notice how Jake likes Shii, and Jake is the compass rose of the shelter people. She is a swing, like KATHY, in the 5 allinace of SJ. Without a switch, we know how this will play out, like S1 and S2. (I KNEW there wasn't going to be a switch, in my bones)

She has been narrating, how would we understand SJ tribal dynamics without Shii Ann's commentary? If anything, I think she'll make the jury (due to Jed's vitriolic language towatds her, she didn't spend time with him). She's a good communicator (Aquarius).

Anyway, I can't see the future. We'll see what happens. But I have 10$ riding on her.... tangrams...

MattyMax

I really like your argument, Dawg!

However, one part of the editing really annoys me. If you look at the Fanatics' Love List, Shii Ann tops many people's lists (inluding mine). I don't recall Kathy being edited in such a likeable light for the audience.

Instead of labelling Shii-Ann as a Kathy, I'd rather go with that "despondant underdog" role.

I think Helen might be getting the old "Kathy editing," but the problem with that is that Helen's been edited nicely a little too QUICKLY. She started bland and annoying, but in only 4 episodes, some have started to relate and respect her.

That's just my opinion.

Quotes of the week
1. "You will NOT see my ta-ta's" -Shii Ann
2. "Do they think I'm too controlling?" -Helen (um, yeah)
3. "My two year old (had a tantrum) one time and I whupped its @$$ and put it back to bed." -Clay
4. "I'm putting in an order for a bigger butt in my next life." -Jan (randomly)