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"I will start off tonight's episode"
Posted by Gaelraven on 04-15-04 at 10:01 PM
OK I writing this in segments as it happens.

Pt.1
What is Eric Problem? Why does he think just because someone is smiling and having a good time there trying to win over the Alts? And so what if Noel is. If I had that happen to me (being voted off by the other guest) I would just let things go. Have fun cuz no one knows how long they got left.
Also I'm liking Ta'Shia more and more. Yeah she the mother type but the way she was helping Noel pick and out fit was cool.

Pt.2
OK I'm not feeling Don's challenge. The other Alts are not either. Just very strange. But I was not supprised at who each other picked. And could Jamie go one-second without that dumb look on her face?!?

Pt.3
I don't trust Loana. And what the hell is wrong with being a janitor? At least he has a job. He does not know noel's whole situation.(That is if Eric said that or not) Hmmmmm.

Pt.4
I don't know what to sat. I still don't trust Eric or Loana. I can't wait to see what everyone's answer to Art's question is. Who do they trust and don't trust.

Pt.4
OK, Either Fiona is stupid and nieve or she just wants to get into Eric's pants.

Pt.5
If Eric wins this whole think then the Alts are not as open as they think there are spiritually The wool has been pulled over there eyes!

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"RE: I will start off tonight's episode"
Posted by I_AM_HE on 04-15-04 at 10:20 PM
I edited out my first post and will post it here instead. Thanks for starting Gael

original post in italics, new thoughts below that

Oh man, Swami, you've got a hilarious and very interesting week!
Noel was a trip (albeit a very disturbing one) on the shopping spree!

And Fiona's "Do you think we're naive?" *snort* sounds like something Rawb would (and has) say!


But boy was I wrong in my "Who's Gonna Win?" assessment!

I really thought Jamie was going after they announced that Nichole had an automatic exemtion (which was stupid IMO, but if they were going to do that, they still should have made her participate in the trial) and not even one necklace!

I'm loving Loana, that she's starting to fight back (and next week it looks like she's going to tell Fiona off, woohoo!), but I don't think she's playing her strategy well. I do think that she didn't realize what she was doing with the cold medicine thing (not even sure if she knew that that had even been an issue with the Alts) and so was innocent there, but when she saw that it had hurt Noel's stock, she followed Eric's lead and tried to finish him off.

In response to your post Gael, I DO think Nichole is incredibly fake and shallow, although I think the same about Eric. Nichole is being manipulative FOR herself, and Eric is doing it AGAINST Nichole. I find Eric's more tolerable because it is a game and they're trying to win. Nichole's obsequiousness bugs the hell out of me. Noel was obviously also being fake. Loana and Jamie are the only ones I feel are at all real (and I question to what degree even for them), but Loana really hurt her chances with her blowup and badly worded strategizing.

About Don's trial, which I hadn't thought to discuss beyond that I didn't like that Nichole got to sit out, I agree I didn't like it. On the one hand, it was an interesting combination of a gross food challenge and a coconut chop challenge, but I still didn't care for it (maybe partially because drinking blood is just a really gross thought, but still...) I think it could have been tweaked a bit to make it better. And they still should have been able to make Nichole drink, or else not let her play nice and give them all one glass.


"RE: I will start off tonight's episode"
Posted by Gaelraven on 04-15-04 at 10:58 PM
Now that I have read your post I'm seeing things different I am He. I still think the Alts are assuming there is major trasformation in theses guest. The're there for one reason MONEY!

The blood trial was distasteful(no pun intended) I have tried blood pudding(mad of pig's blood) but I don't think I culd straight up drink it.

"RE: I will start off tonight's episode"
Posted by Deonna on 04-16-04 at 08:42 AM
"I still think the Alts are assuming there is major trasformation in theses guest. The're there for one reason MONEY!"

I am amazed the Alts don't see this.

I accidentally had a big mouthful of blood pie. I went to a potluck party and on the table I thought I saw chocolate pie. I put a big piece in my mouth and immediately barfed it up on their living room floor. I was shocked. I was expecting chocolate.

Deonna

"RE: I will start off tonight's episode"
Posted by mistofleas on 04-15-04 at 11:59 PM
On the one hand, it was an interesting combination of a gross food challenge and a coconut chop challenge,

I agree, this challenge was about 2 things. Giving the viewing audience a gross thing to watch and the Alts to get a feel for the TOP's after the fake elimination. How do the winds blow? Well in true reality tv world bashing form...I'll say "they just blow!"


--has drank blood and it's icky when cold

"RE: I will start off tonight's episode"
Posted by AugustGirl on 04-16-04 at 07:54 AM
Pt.4
OK, Either Fiona is stupid and nieve or she just wants to get into Eric's pants.

All of the above. Stupid and naive and horny.

I am very disappointed in Fiona and Ta'Shia. Fiona for being completely blind to Eric's plotting and scheming (see above), and Ta'Shia for believing Loana's tales about Noel without speaking to Noel first. These people are supposed to be spiritual and evolved? It's like watching Goth High School Reunion on the WB. Geez! I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm begining to think that Don is the only one of the bunch who has even a remote clue about the TOPS. It *is* a game. They are trying to win money. If any of them think the TOPS will evolve and change for the better after being with them for, what, two weeks, then they're all whacked. They voted off the one person, Bonnie, who truly did deserve the money.

And I knew Fiona was not going to put the necklace around Eric's neck. I just wish she had put it around Jamie's neck, forcing Loana to break the tie. I know Loana would have picked Noel, but being forced to do the Alt's dirty work would have helped in Loana's "evolution" (said with a whole bunch of scarcasm).


"RE: I will start off tonight's episode"
Posted by Deonna on 04-16-04 at 08:44 AM
*waves hi*

Everything you wrote was exactly what I was thinking.

Deonna

"RE: I will start off tonight's episode"
Posted by AugustGirl on 04-16-04 at 11:28 AM
*waves* to Deonna! Hi!


a JSlice original. isn't she something?

"RE: I will start off tonight's episode"
Posted by mistofleas on 04-16-04 at 09:05 AM
The thing about Noel though? He set up his ousting all by himself. Ta'Shai wasn't wrong to give him the necklace. He did lie to her. He told her that he took cold medicine and he was trying to stop. A lie. He said that if the Alt's wanted to think that he was addicted to something that was fine with him, he could use that to show them his "growth". Lies by ommission are still lies.

I jotted down his comments after he was eliminated. He said:
Loana screwed me. She and Ta'Shai got it into their heads I was a pill popping junkie or something and just went with that.

What do you mean "got it into their heads" Noel? You're the one who put it there! I'm sorry but you put it upon yourself.

His comments about Loana at the end were pretty harsh too. "Loana is just a 23 year old chick who has never been laid." Okay so they may be completely true but sheesh, did he take absolutely nothing away from the experience?

He said he was leaving the house "bitter". Well, lies do taste bitter. But at least it washed out the taste of blood!


--doesn't think that Loana is blameless in this but thinks Noels anger is directed at the wrong person

"RE: I will start off tonight's episode"
Posted by AugustGirl on 04-16-04 at 11:27 AM
I agree with you about Noel, Misto. He has some issues he needs to work through and the whole cough syrup thing was stupid and pointless. He has a lot of growing up and evolving to do himself. As does Loana and Eric. I'm still on the fence about Nicole and Jamie, but I'm sure I'll have an opinion soon.


a JSlice original. isn't she something?

"RE: I will start off tonight's episode"
Posted by I_AM_HE on 04-16-04 at 02:34 PM
LAST EDITED ON 04-16-04 AT 02:45 PM (EST)

Agree, misto. He also told Eric that Loana "didn't really do anything wrong." So I think she was telling the truth to Ta'Shia, and I don't think in an underhanded way at the time (or it may have been say 3 nights ago, which isn't technically a "couple" but recent enough that she may have thought it was included in Ta'Shia's timeframe), but after she saw what it had done, she didn't hesitate to get blood on her hands, so to speak. Certainly not blameless in the end (may not have been at the beginning either, but as I indicated above, I'm really not sure about that).

Edit to add that whether my impressions of how things came about are true or not, I think Loana's next to go unless she wins immunity or someone else jumps in the line of fire. Don doesn't like her for her clumsy attempts at manipulation/tattling, Fiona is mad at her for her anger at the Alts (whether legitimate or not, Fiona's aptitude for Truth is certainly suspect), and Avocado doesn't like "goody-goodies." That's 3 right there, and I think combined with Jamie not getting any necklaces last week (which really did shock me, for all their talk of her substandard growth the past few weeks) and Loana's a goner.

Right now, my guess would be an Eric/Nichole Final 2 (based on the Tarot reading significance - The Star and The Hierophant), and I really still don't see Nichole winning. Either one winning I think would be embarrassing for the Alts.


"RE: I will start off tonight's episode"
Posted by Loree on 04-16-04 at 01:18 PM
First off - whose blood was that? It was never explained if it was animal blood or what it was. Yuck!

And since my father-in-law was a school janitor you just don't insult being a janitor around my in-laws. Big No No! Honest work, and someone has to do it.

I noticed in the preview for next week that it is Loanna, Jamie and Eric standing by the pool. Does that mean Nicole wins the immunity again? Loanna and Jamie both looked like they had a necklace around their neck and Eric still had none while what looked like Ta'Shia was approaching them with one.

"RE: I will start off tonight's episode"
Posted by Gaelraven on 04-16-04 at 01:50 PM
I agree again no one should put down anyones job.
I notice when they show previews for the next show they often use some of the same older footage. The scene with Jamie crying has been used more then once.
"RE: I will start off tonight's episode"
Posted by I_AM_HE on 04-16-04 at 04:28 PM
Agree that it's probably reused footage, Gael. If it is close-cropped, it's probably from 2 weeks ago (non-elimination) where Loana, Eric, and Jamie were lined up with Noel to their right, and Nichole at the far right after she joined them.
"RE: I will start off tonight's episode"
Posted by mistofleas on 04-16-04 at 03:58 PM
And since my father-in-law was a school janitor you just don't insult being a janitor around my in-laws.

My mom has worked at the high school in my home town for 23 years now. Sure she's a janitor, but we like to call her "a custodian engineer of maintenance"!


--used to help out in the summer months and knows for a fact that the girls locker room is way more disgusting than the boys

"RE: I will start off tonight's episode"
Posted by Cin on 04-16-04 at 01:57 PM
Have you guys been to the official site and seen the videos for this week? Loana really makes me angry, she is a lot sneaker than the alts think, she needs to go!

oh if you do go look at the videos, make sure you look at the one a few weeks ago entitled "Vampire Rap" it is very funny.


Cin