In fact I think we need as new forum just for shakes, the Flames Forum or whatever, for peeps (especially shakes) to turn up the heat! Make that the Shakes the Clown Forum! I, personally, would be totally irreverant in such a forum, but I'm funny that way. Hopefully, so would shakes. SMILES ARE FREE
"If all machines were to be annihilated at one moment, so that not a knife nor lever nor rag of clothing nor anything whatsoever were left to man but his bare body alone that he was born with, and if all knowledge of mechanical laws were taken from him so that he could make no more machines, and all machine-made food destroyed so that the race of man should be left as it were naked upon a desert island, we should become extinct in six weeks." (Samuel Butler, "Erewhon")