Please post in this thread any spoilers, speculation or information you may come up on Pastor John Raymond, 40, Slidell, LA

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• Luxury item - Christian Flag,infinitesurvivor, 07:41 PM, 08-30-02

LAST EDITED ON 08-15-02 AT 09:57 AM (EST)

Christian flag is his luxury item. Hope it's a whopper like Colby's Texas one. Yeah, yeah, he's married.

Born and raised in New Orleans, John Raymond attended high school in Springfield, Louisiana. Moving to Illinois, he received a Bachelor of Theology from Oregon Bible College (majoring in Counseling and Pastoral Ministry). He simultaneously received an Associate degree of Liberal Arts from Rock Valley Junior College, where he was on the college speech team.

John is currently the Executive Pastor at a church of 2,700 members. He leads the pastoral counseling department, runs the adult education program and has developed a network of 50 small relationship groups. He previously worked as a financial planner for 12 years (regional vice president with his company and a top salesman), working his way through college as a carpenter and shipbuilder.

John enjoys scuba diving, spear fishing, deer hunting (gun and bow and arrow), playing guitar and writing country songs. He's been to 39 of the United States, Jamaica, Mexico, Canada and mission trips to the jungles of the Mosquito Coast in Honduras and Nicaragua. He is most proud of completing the Los Angeles Marathon after only three months of training. He is also proud of recently transforming his body in only twelve weeks through the Body-For-Life challenge. In his spare time, he coaches his children in little league basketball.

John currently lives in Slidell, Louisiana, with his wife, Elizabeth, whom he considers to be his hero. They have three children, John (12), Monica (10) and Benjamin (2), along with two cats, Panda and Fluffy. He is the founder and President of the Adult Chapter of the Fellowship of Christian Athletes in his county and a member of Promise Keepers and the Nashville Songwriters Association International. His birth date is February 21, 1962.

got this, from here: http://theharvest.info/aboutus/pastors.html

John graduated from high school in 1980 with his friend and classmate Doug McAllister. He then received his B.A. in Theology with a major in Pastoral Ministry. Having developed the L.I.F.E. Group ministry and the We Build People Leadership Training Program for The Harvest, John now serves as Executive Pastor providing spiritual counseling and leadership where necessary as well as preaching on occasion in the absence of Pastor Doug.

Pastor John is currently undertaking the monumental task of putting the story of The Harvest into book form including our unique methods of church growth and philosophy of ministry. As a seminar instructor in church growth seminars, John travels with Pastor Doug conducting church growth conferences across the country.

Traveling regularly to Central America for missions work is a favorite ministry focus for John as well. John is currently leading the planting and building of a new church and medical clinic in Nicaragua as well as supporting an orphanage in Honduras.

John and his wife Liz have been married for sixteen years and have three children; John Derek - 12, Monica - 10, & Benjamin - 18 months.

This came off the ezboard ~ The Alliance board.

You can visit the churchs website for Pastor John Raymond at theharvest.info <http://theharvest.info>; . Later today there will be video clips and pictures available and there is already a message board that Pastor John actually reads!

Thought you all may be interested.

They now have a message board where you can post. I am going to register, you never know. He may read the messages, but I am sure he will not post any secret messages.

Your link doesn't work because of the final ">". Try this one instead:

http://theharvest.info/

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Thanks for the help! Forget to double check when posting the link!

This guy doesn't seem like a wallflower at all and, who knows, he could really connect well with the other contestants in this game. I found some pics of him chasing alligators and of him being in a Christian band.

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I think John is going to be the first to go because the only pictures I've seen him in are with this shirt:

And that's how we knew peter would be out first.

MattyMax

Well, for what it's worth, I don't think we saw Pappy wearing anything except a blue T-shirt his entire time except for a long-sleeeved one towards the end.

I also notice that there's numerous shirt-less pics of John so it may be just that he prefers one shirt more than any of the others he's got in supply.

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i see gdiva (ghaundia) or shii ann going 1st. thehe not going to boot john before them. were not even going to talk about rob or erin

So your saying that one of the two MINORITIES will be the first ones booted of the island?If MB DOESN'T have a say in it, then sure, of course they will...

If your happy and you know it, Do the Cooper dance!!

I don't know. John doesn't look 'unkempt' in any of his photos. There is only one photo of him without his shirt on, and he's as smooth as a baby, and the rest he's wearing that same godawful shirt. In this shot, he's wearing that necklace that he was wearing before, maybe he never takes it off, but I have a feeling it's a shot of him washing and he took off that ugly shirt.

The other shirt we know he has is that Yellow one from the first press photos. I'm pretty sure the clothes in the press photos are brought into the game with them.

John has not been featured in any promos, maybe because they don't have much material.

I'm guessing that John is on the red tribe from Fester's fabulous 'Debunking the All Male/Female Tribe" analysis. I could see him going early in the tribe if the women stick together (a la Ghandia's 'we're gonna kick the men's butt' comment) and Clay makes himself useful. There are shots of Clay with beard growth, too. It seems that RED is the weaker physically tribe, and the first challenge is usually physical. Purple has all that muscle of Ken, Jed, Robb and Stephanie.

Blah, in conclusion, My pick for the first boot is JOHN.

MattyMax

Mattymax- I DO agree that John is a very likley early boot, but i have a few things to add...
First, i thought i heard of something where John has had a promo? Maybe im just mistaken. Oh well
Where'd you get those Extra Vidcaps? I wanna see!
Other reasons pointing to John's boot is how much talking he's doing...especially bringing his red buff into his church, and talking about "the great experience" blah blah blah. Someone DID report that he came back looking just like he usually did. Sure, there was time to put back on the weight, but i find it funny how there is absolutley nothing that makes him look like hes suffered just a little bit.
And about the Red tribe being the weakest, i think we're underestimating them.A majority of posters thought Rotu would suck because of their older members, but they truly rocked in most. And not all challenges are physical, remember that. And Jeffy has been shown saying that the challenges are ALL NEW so im sure we can expect something WAY different than a QUEST FOR FIRE CHALLENGE. Phew. Im tired.

If your happy and you know it, Do the Cooper dance!!

This man sounds like a braggart and could be very annoying. I agree that he could be booted early on.

John lists "self help books" as his favorite books. I used to work with a man who was religious and had a lot of self help books (his room mate told me) and he was quite annoying. He always said that he was doing "Fanatastic", but it was easy to see that he wasn't.

Come on in, the water's fine!

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