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"Jan. 04 Episode"
Posted by volsfan on 01-05-05 at 07:49 AM
We are down to the final two and I enjoyed lastnight's show even though it ended up being a recarp show. However, please tell me that Richard doesn't decide the winner on a flip of the coin. PLEASE!

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"RE: Jan. 04 Episode"
Posted by Seana on 01-05-05 at 10:16 AM
Hi, volsfan!

And hi cq and Swami and PagongRatEater and pinchy and everyone else...

I actually got to watch a few minutes of this show last night. Big emergency landing...reeeeally bad commercials...two people (Which two? Dunno.) get booted.

This show seems a bit dry. And a bit disorganised, like everything is done "on the fly", but not in an exhilarating kind of way. Because I've had time to form an opinion, having seen 5 minutes of the what? 6th? episode. Yeah, I'm full of myself. Or something.

RE: coin-flipping...YIKES! Wouldn't that be a kick in the teeth for everyone who was "playing to win" or "not here to make friends" or whatever.

"RE: Jan. 04 Episode"
Posted by TenPin on 01-05-05 at 11:08 AM
Vols,

It seemed to me that the coin flip had to do with the prize, not who will become the winner. Sir Richard says something about give up the million dollars to flip a coin for some great opportunity.

My guess is that it has something to do with their personal businesses and Richard’s company. Hard to tell from the brief blurb, but I’m willing to bet it is something like that.

TenPin

"It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intellegent, but the most responsive to change."
Charles Darwin

"RE: Jan. 04 Episode"
Posted by Swami on 01-05-05 at 12:05 PM
It's gonna be a risk-taking test, I'll bet. The winner gets a million dollars, then after this winner is all thrilled Richard says "Do you want to be President of Virgin too? Will you risk it all on the flip of a coin--all or nothing?"

At which point a smart entrepreneur would take the money and build their own d@mn company, but since Branson is shown flipping someone must take on the dare. And win, because the toss is rigged.

I think Sara wins it all.



"RE: Jan. 04 Episode"
Posted by Elaine0 on 01-05-05 at 12:13 PM
I heard it this way.

The winner gets a million dollars. Then that person can walk away with the million or take a chance on flipping a coin. If they win the coin toss, they keep the million and become head of Virgin. If they lose the coin toss, they get nothing.

"RE: Jan. 04 Episode"
Posted by Swami on 01-05-05 at 12:20 PM
Okay, you expressed that better than I did--but that's what I meant.



"RE: Jan. 04 Episode"
Posted by lrlr1 on 01-06-05 at 02:45 AM
>We are down to the final
>two and I enjoyed lastnight's
>show even though it ended
>up being a recarp show.
>However, please tell me that
>Richard doesn't decide the winner
>on a flip of the
>coin. PLEASE!
>
>


You know, that's one of the problems with this show. All the life and limb-threatening risks - do they really determine who would be best able to run Virgin Airlines? Why not just get Evel Kneivel or his daredevil son to run the thing? And flip a coin? What does that have to do with the ability to run ANYTHING? I guess it has something to do with who is a risk-taker, but hey! let me have a shot. I'll risk YOUR family farm in a heartbeat! See what I mean? What does any of this have to do with running a company, the, I suppose, premise of the show?

P.S. And since Branson breaks all the rules of a reality show, I wouldn't be surprised if he chooses Nicolle!

"RE: Jan. 04 Episode"
Posted by volsfan on 01-06-05 at 08:16 AM
Branson has done a much better job than Mark Cuban did with his show. Branson has gotten to know these peeps and he has followed them around in costumes to see how they perform on their tasks.

The first few tasks were risk taking but some of the later competitions were based more on business than anything else. Meeting deadlines and working with budgets were parts of a few of the challenges.

"RE: Jan. 04 Episode"
Posted by Swami on 01-06-05 at 09:50 AM
"What does that have to do with the ability to run ANYTHING?"

I guess Branson doesn't golf.

Seriously, high level management positions are so often determined in a non-business setting, particularly a sport related outdoor setting. I have no idea how it actually works even though I have seen it happen. A couple of guys will talk at length about the game, their shoes, their kids, then wham--out of the blue--some business decision has been made.

I don't get it, but that's how it happens. This is why women's rights groups are so anxious to eliminate male only golf courses & clubs. It really does make a difference to be able to join in at those venues.



"RE: Jan. 04 Episode"
Posted by lrlr1 on 01-06-05 at 10:52 AM
>"What does that have to do
>with the ability to run
>ANYTHING?"
>
>I guess Branson doesn't golf.
>
>Seriously, high level management positions are
>so often determined in a
>non-business setting, particularly a sport
>related outdoor setting. I
>have no idea how it
>actually works even though I
>have seen it happen.
>A couple of guys will
>talk at length about the
>game, their shoes, their kids,
>then wham--out of the blue--some
>business decision has been made.
>
>
Okay, I forgot about the non-risky tasks. Yes, they demonstrated creativity, imagination, time management, budget, etc. Ill grant that. But the sports thing is not what this show is about. It's about being a dare devil. The business deal is not settled on who got the best golf score (indeed, many times it is won if the wannabe LOSES the game) much less the shoes, etc. The sports thing is a getting to know you kind of thing, seeing if you're my kind of guy thing WITH pre-knowledge and/or confirmation of your finances/business acumen/contacts, etc., making the decision. This game-show team compeition thing is far removed from how it's normally done.

It's hard to build up passion for this show. Perhaps that's because it is the show, the process, the capriciousness of Branson's decisions, not the human beings running around in the maze (and certainly not the stimulaton of our little gray cells), that is the star. With complete lack of passion, that's MO.

"RE: Jan. 04 Episode"
Posted by Loree on 01-06-05 at 12:54 PM
It has seemed predetermined from the beginning when Shawn wasn't booted right away that Branson liked him. And he would probably last till the end. But I think Sara is going to win. She comes off as the smarter choice. Shawn was good for ratings. But would Richard really want to give him control of his company?