LAST EDITED ON 06-10-02 AT 03:47 PM (EST)

Ok, I know this is being discussed on another thread, but I figuared we should have one single thread devoted to the weather conditions now, since the game has now begun. (instead of the filming dates thread, if I'm wrong please delete this post

So how's the weather over there?

Cin

• Per Weather.com,Bebo, 03:54 PM, 06-10-02
  • RE: Per Weather.com,SurvivorBlows, 05:14 PM, 06-10-02
    • RE: Per Weather.com,PepeLePew13, 02:08 AM, 06-11-02
    • RE: Per Weather.com,Bebo, 09:15 AM, 06-11-02
    • It's Raining, It's Pouring...,Rain Crow, 01:57 PM, 06-14-02
  • Thoughts on Heat and Humidity,Rain Crow, 01:06 PM, 06-11-02
    • RE: Thoughts on Heat and Humidity,Swami, 06:38 PM, 06-12-02
      • You are so right!,Rain Crow, 12:21 PM, 06-13-02
  • RE: Per Weather.com,Kokoro, 00:19 AM, 06-12-02
• RE: Weather Updates,spartan, 11:48 PM, 06-19-02
  • RE: Weather Updates,Cin, 08:12 AM, 06-20-02
    • RE: Weather Updates,spartan, 03:59 PM, 06-20-02
• RE: Weather Updates,dabo, 00:59 AM, 06-21-02
  • RE: Weather Updates,producer, 01:36 PM, 06-25-02
  • RE: Weather Updates,Kokoro, 04:22 AM, 06-26-02
    • RE: Weather Updates,producer, 11:18 AM, 06-26-02
      • RE: Weather Updates,dabo, 04:58 PM, 06-26-02
        • RE: Weather Updates,producer, 05:43 PM, 06-26-02
• Getting Worse Again,dabo, 10:42 PM, 07-01-02
  • It ain't as bad as all that,HongKongFooey, 02:54 AM, 07-02-02
    • RE: It ain't as bad as all that,PepeLePew13, 07:41 AM, 07-02-02
    • RE: It ain't as bad as all that,Swami, 03:39 PM, 07-02-02
• rain & sun, etc.,Ra_8secs, 04:45 AM, 07-03-02
• RE: Weather Updates,Q, 01:27 PM, 07-15-02
• RE: Weather Updates,dabo, 02:30 PM, 07-19-02
• RE: Weather Updates,clemsonbeav, 11:03 AM, 08-13-02

Please don't make me smack my chest like Hunter did during this weather report!

Phuket, Thailand
as reported at Phuket, Thailand. Last Updated Tuesday, June 11, 2002, at 1:30 AM Local Time (Monday, 2:30 PM EDT)

Mostly Cloudy
84°F Feels Like: 100°F

UV Index: 0 Minimal
Wind: From the West at 6 mph
Dew Point: 82°F
Humidity: 94 %
Visibility: Unlimited
Barometer: 29.77 inches and falling

Bebo note: Due to high humidity, it feels like it's this hot in the middle of the night, I think contestants will have even more trouble sleeping, especially at the beginning while they are getting used to the constant heat.

10 Day Forecast

Phuket, Thailand
Last Updated Monday, June 10, 2002, at 11:40 PM Local Time (Monday, 12:40 PM EDT)

Tue Jun 11 T-Showers 92°F 80°F
UV Index: 10+ Extreme

Wed Jun 12 T-Showers 91°F 78°F
UV Index: 10+ Extreme

Thu Jun 13 T-Showers 90°F 78°F
UV Index: 9 High

Fri Jun 14 T-Showers 90°F 78°F
UV Index: 10+ Extreme

Sat Jun 15 Isolated T-Storms 90°F 78°F
UV Index: 10+ Extreme

Sun Jun 16 Partly Cloudy 90°F 78°F
UV Index: 10+ Extreme

Mon Jun 17 Partly Cloudy 90°F 78°F
UV Index: 10+ Extreme

Tue Jun 18 Isolated T-Storms 90°F 78°F
UV Index: 10+ Extreme

Wed Jun 19 Isolated T-Storms 90°F 78°F
UV Index: 10+ Extreme

> Tue Jun 11 T-Showers
> Wed Jun 12 T-Showers
> Thu Jun 13 T-Showers
> Fri Jun 14 T-Showers
> Sat Jun 15 Isolated T-Storms
> Sun Jun 16 Partly Cloudy
> Mon Jun 17 Partly Cloudy
> Tue Jun 18 Isolated T-Storms
> Wed Jun 19 Isolated T-Storms

Oh boy, isn't this going to make great television -- NOT!

Someone explain to me why Burnett is filming during monsoon season again???

-SB

I also notice that the UV index is "extreme" each of these 10 days... having all that rain will be handy to cool off the searing skin as well.

MB is really going to make these people suffer... but I wonder how the challenges will go if there's a lot of rainstorms? Hmmm.

Someone explain to me why Burnett is filming during monsoon season again???

Survivor 5 = Wet T-shirt contest????

(Been resisting the urge to post that on Bashers for a long time.)

Rude, snotty, mean, horrible, nasty, witch, yadda yadda yadda...

There are 10 kinds of people in the world - those who understand binary and those who don't.

Carolina Hurricanes - Eastern Conference Champions
Bedeviled NJ, nabbed the Habs, and raked the Leafs!

and no one is snoring!

Just now checked the weather for Satun. It is almost one o'clock at night (Fri. night 14th/Sat. morning 15th) with thunderstorms.

Heh-Heh .

This is going to be a tough Suvivor I think. The heat, humidity, sun, rain, etc. will play heavily in the physical and mental fitness, energy, and health of the survivors.

I experienced periods of identical weather during my 1968-1969 tour in Vietnam with the Marine Corps. Even thought we were in outstanding physical condition, these conditions played hell with us from time to time. We had frequent cases of heat exhaustion and some near misses with the much more dangerous heat stroke. Some guys were actually medivaced from the bush via helicopters.

I personally came close to passing out one day when everything suddenly turned very bright white as I staggered over to lean on a sand-bagged bunker in a little patch of shade. My skin felt like I had thousands of needles stabbing me. One of our Corpsman (medic to you Army guys!) had me drink lots of water and take some salt tablets. During the worst of the weather, I would take 10-20 aspirin-sized salt tablets PER DAY(!) to keep my salt content and electrolytes under control.

Spoiler and speculation value of my Vietnam experiences:

(1) Keep a close watch on physical condition of the contestants. I doubt if anyone will be acclimated for these conditions. Heat and humidity can take a toll on strength and energy. Early on, we should look for those who seem to cope with it better than others. They will probably do better in the challenges. We can also look for signs of medical treatment or assistance. All survivors will need lots of water, salt, and even food to stay healthy in this environment, but some will need more than others. Contestants not getting medical treatment will want to elimate those that do.

(2) Likewise, we need to be aware of their mental condition. When it rains every day, every day, every day, etc., it can stress people out...particularly when accompanied by heat and humidity. Then add in the fact that most people will try to stay in the shelter during inclement weather...we're talking cabin fever in the making! MB may have some PTSD-like problems on his hands unless they are really careful. We can expect to see lots of stress-related bickering, arguments, etc. It will probably be difficult to hold a large alliance together. People will be more prone to vote off annoying people this time I think.

(3) Due to these factors, I beleive we will see weaker players eliminated very early on in S5 (ala Jessica in Survivor Africa). By the way, Africa was a bit different...dry heat is more bearable...so we saw some relatively weak players hang on.

(4) Since we haven't had any medivac eliminations since Mike Skupin in S2, I would think the law of averages would be working its way around to another one in S5. I will be surprised if it doesn't happen in this type of environment.

Guess that is enough for now. I will be looking forward to other comments and analysis as we prepare for our own personal challenges in spoiling S5!

Now see, I have a very different take on monsoon season, having spent all of one and part of another monsoon on the west coast of southern India.

The last few weeks leading into the rainy season were the unbearable ones, because the heat & humidity were unrelenting. But with the rains came relief. Humidity & temperature both seem to go down while it is raining. I enjoyed the rainy season!

It was, however, impossible to have dry foot wear, since you are often walking through several inches of water run-off wherever you go. Leather shoes just rotted. Athletic shoes never dried completely. Dirty, sweaty clothes would grow fungus if not hung so they received good air circulation.

If these people have to build their own jury-rigged shelters, they will certainly get very wet day & night. A proper thatched roof is not something an amateur can throw up easily. I agree the stress of the heat, humidity & constantly being wet will take a psychological toll. Building & maintaining fires should be a challenge! They will have to be very scupulous about keeping their uncooked rice totally dry. If uncooked rice gets wet it will rot overnight & be inedible.

I think as a soldier you were probably engaged in more constant strenuous physical activity than the Survivors will be, especially if you routinely carried a lot of heavy equipment around. In all the Survivors so far, people seem to have lots of time to just hang out & 'chill' when they are not doing challenges. I doubt if they will need salt tablets as you describe.

While I have some different opinions on the monsoon, I agree with your opening comment completely -- This is going to be a tough Suvivor I think. The heat, humidity, sun, rain, etc. will play heavily in the physical and mental fitness, energy, and health of the survivors.

Swami

I have had boots and clothes mildew and rot, literally while wearing them. Miserable!

Rains do cool things down when they are actually occuring and I also enjoyed the rain itself (until it went on day after day after day, etc!). In fact, we used to stand out in the rain "butt-nekkid" with a bar of soap and take a shower! Wonder if MB will show us that if it happens?!?!

I also remember the soaked terrain and even flooding, which can be a concern in some areas (but perhaps not on a sandy beach?). You are probably right about the fire problem. If they have true monsoon rains instead of just rain showers, I have my doubts if they can successfully keep them going.

Yep, we were pretty busy much of the time, often carrying 75-100 pounds of field gear, weapons, and ammo. Assuming the survivors won't have to do so , maybe they want need so many salt tablets. Still, I hope they have some in stock, along with plenty of sunscrean!!!

Can hardly wait to see how the contestants handle all this .

Wow, does that ever sound like fun....Note to any cute girls: DRINK THE WATER - even if it tastes "yucky" ;)

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Now let us never speak of S3 again.

Looks pretty miserable over there at this point. At 10:00 in the morning, the temperature today was 93 with a heat index of 115. High heat and higher humidity with rain thrown in on a dialy basis.

Unfortunately, this sounds disturbingly like the conditions in Africa where the weather, in part, had a significant impact on the activity level of the Survivors.

The other thing I;m going to take from the weather conditions is that watching for ewakness in the first couple of episodes is going to be more telling than who is lining up with who (or is it whom?).

They are so screwed! I hope the rain atleast cools things off for them

Cin

Following the weather reports, it looks like the rain actually does more harm than good. In North America, we are used to rain storms that serve as the edge of a cool front. With tropical weather, things are different. There is no cool front and all the rain really does (other than make everyone wet) is keep the humidity at staggering levels.

Of course, what better group of people to see completely miserable than these DAWs.

10-Day Forecast
Fri 6/21 Isolated T-Storms (High/Low) 91/79 (Precip%) 40%
Sat 6/22 T-Showers 91/70 40%
Sun 6/23 T-Showers 90/78 50%
Mon 6/24 T-Showers 90/78 50%
Tue 6/25 T-Showers 90/77 50%
Wed 6/26 Cloudy 90/77 30%
Thu 6/27 Cloudy 90/77 30%
Fri 6/28 Mostly Cloudy 90/77 30%
Sat 6/29 Cloudy 90/77 30%
Sun 6/30 Cloudy 89/78 20%

Looks like things may get a little bit more liveable, but not much.

ARRRRRRR!!!!

I was in Thailand in late April and I thought it was pretty darn hott. Before I got there they said they were having a severe dry spell, but then it rained for 2 days straight.

I figure that's what the monsoon season will be like (in Late July/August). Filming will actually be over before the bad stuff hits the island.

I'm working on a little weather module right now for the survivorthailand.com site and Sutan is actually the better place to pull weather from. Phukett tends to be a little more stable year round. And it's a larger island, so the monsoons don't impact them as much.

Actually, it does sound much better - I know I love clouds. And yes of course it's the humidity that keeps it all hot and such but having the Sun beating down on you isn't really the biggest help either.

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Now let us never speak of S3 again.

I went on a few hikes on some really hot days. Ok, they're all really hot. And once you get under some form of cover (trees, rocks, etc), it's quite nice. The temp felt like it was about 20 degrees cooler.

I don't think they'll have many problems after the first 3 or 4 days. I suspect the first person to go out will likely have heat exaustion.

Fortunately there is plenty of fresh water on the island and they shouldn't have any issues lighting fires (simply put some dry leaves on the beach and the heat will make them explode into flames).

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Survivor Thailand - 2002
Out Click, Out Link, Out Post
http://www.survivorthailand.com

Neat. MB probably won't clue them in about the leaves on the beach trick, though; that just sounds too easy. Nice site. Have you been keeping a daily log of the weather? Have there been any notable storms in the area?

>Have
>you been keeping a daily
>log of the weather?
>Have there been any notable
>storms in the area?

I've been watching for the last month or so. Basically because I'll be in Thailand this time next year. The leaves on the beach really wouldn't happen. It's just that hot that it seems like it would.

If I were picking teams on this one, the geeky kid with the glasses would be the first one picked. There will be no problems with getting enough sun to lite a fire.

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Survivor Thailand - 2002
Out Click, Out Link, Out Post
http://www.survivorthailand.com

July 1 Isolated T-Storms (high/low) na/79 (precip %) 40%
July 2 Isolated T-Storms 91/79 40%
July 3 Isolated T-Storms 91/78 40%
July 4 Scattered T-Storms 90/78 50%
July 5 Scattered T-Storms 90/78 50%
July 6 Scattered T-Storms 90/78 40%
July 7 Isolated T-Storms 90/78 40%
July 8 Scattered T-Storms 90/77 50%
July 9 T-Storms 90/77 70%
July 10 T-Storms 90/77 70%

Hope someone else can check this July 10 or 11.

The actual temperatures and humidity levels as well as the amount of rainfall figures are quite mis-leading.
To qualify what I say I should say I've been to Phuket numerous times and adore the Kingdom of Thailand.

For sure, if you spend any amount of time inland, and in particularly Bangkok (the capital) the overall heat and humidity, coupled with the traffic and pollution makes the place, in August, almost unbearable. In fact I'd go as far as to say you'd be hard pushed to experience a more oppressive climate.

However once you get out to the islands the situation is very different.

Firstly the temperatures will feel much lower when you take in to accout the on-shore (in the morning) and off-shore (in the evening) breezes. These can be very pleasant indeed.

Secondly you will never experience 2 solid days of rainfall. It can be hot and muggy in the morning and then usually around 3pm you get this almighty downpour that can last 2/3 hours. It can also rain very heavily during the night where major temperature variations are experienced. And when the rains have fell the air is fresher, and the downpour obliterates the humidity - and cleans the skin in the process. Invigorating would be the word.

Having said all of that I'm used to banana milkshakes by the bucketload during the day and ice cold beers and local whiskey throughout the night, so my judgement cannot be accurately applied to the situation our survivors face.

Welcome to our little place, HKFooey! Thanks for the tidbits on the weather as it sounds less oppressive the way you've described it, but I do wonder how it will all play out on TV as constant rainfall can make for some cranky bedmates that may or may not have some impact on game strategy.

LAST EDITED ON 07-02-02 AT 03:40 PM (EST)

Welcome, HKFooey! I hope you will stick around for all the spoiling fun. We would appreciate your insights and knowledge regarding Phuket.

If the rainfall time is semi-predictable, then Burnett can probably be fairly successful at either avoiding rain for challenges, or using the rain to make some challenges even more difficult or the players more miserable.

Edit: spelling, spelling.

Swami

Monsoon's not that bad, actually. Here's my analysis with help from all who've posted earlier.

Point 1: Rain may be cyclical, morning and late pm, putting a premium on protecting the FIRE. That's a good campground skill.

Point 2: Agree w/ someone about tropical monsoon rain not alleviating any humidity. But that's what Mark B wants, eh? -- hot, wet, skin-exposed bodies!

Point 3: Rain is fresh water. The ingeniuous will use it for fresh water. Did I just say ingenuine meaning liar or in-like get smart?

Point 4: I love playing summer basketball in the rain. (Nothting to do with Survivor, I know, but maybe they can fashion up a basket. That's a cool luxury item -- a basketball!

Point 5: There is no point five.

and hugs and sunshine for all, Ra

Do not know the particulars, maybe someone can check on them, but over the weekend, I noticed that there are severe rains in the indonesian/southeast asian area? The storm looked huge. Anyone know of any details, or if this would effect the area near S5 filming??

Just a thought. Also, The filming should be coming to an end soon? We are at approximately 35 days are we not?

Later all,

D.R.

Daphne at SurvivorFever compiled a great chart following the weather in Thailand -- http://www.survivorfever.net/s5w.html

Conditions seem to have remained fairly stable, if this chart holds up, but the timeline seems fairly well established anyway.

LAST EDITED ON 08-13-02 AT 11:01 PM (EST)

I've just started wondering about this:

How exactly does one pronounce the word "Phuket"?

I've been pronouncing it (pyoo - ket`).

But one can also make it rhyme with Nantuckett if you know what I'm sayin'. Hehehe...

I seriously hope it's the first one, or a variation; just not the second one. :-P

clemsonbeav

P.S. I move into my dorm (yay!) on Saturday (8/17)! Go Tigers!