Now that Survivor 4 is over, we have no spoiling to do and we had debated about who the "villian" from Survivor 4 was here in the Spoiler Board. So I feel this is the proper place to discuss this.

Reflecting back, who was the villian Mark Burnett was talking about.

I heard some talk John earlier and now it looks evident to me that he was never a villian. I think you still have to stick with Sean with Rob being a close 2. Sean because if you look at his popularity he was so disliked until the end of the game and that at the end his eruption at TC makes him pull away from Rob.

I could also see Rob because he was always causing turmoil. He was the one aways mixing things up.

I go back and forth and am now actually leaning with Rob as the Villian.

• Rob was the villian,DVK, 10:20 AM, 05-20-02
  • RE: Rob was the villian,zzz, 10:25 AM, 05-20-02
    • Just funny how no one wanted to believe it at the time,Wacko Jacko, 10:59 AM, 05-20-02
• Rob Mariano !!!!,katem, 10:58 AM, 05-20-02
• RE: The Villain,MatineeIdol, 10:58 AM, 05-20-02
• RE: The Villian,Bebo, 11:01 AM, 05-20-02
  • RE: The Villian,In The Woods, 03:31 PM, 05-20-02
  • Purple Rock gets my Villain Vote also!,Rain Crow, 05:14 PM, 05-20-02
• LOTS of villians...,SurvivinDawg, 04:11 PM, 05-20-02
  • RE: LOTS of villians...,zzz, 04:49 PM, 05-20-02
    • RE: LOTS of villians...,erikman, 09:06 PM, 05-20-02
      • Vee as a Villian,Wacko Jacko, 04:54 PM, 05-22-02

Rob was the villian!!
Sean was just an idiot, a racist, ranting, "representin" idiot.
Rob played an underhanded on pupose stir it up plan. Which was the only hand he had to play at the time, a smart move.

DVK

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And your whiney butt opinion would be?

Remember--MB played up Rob as the Robfather. OF COURSE Rob was the villain.

My personal villain, however, is MB.

I agree the more I thought about Rob was a bigger Villian than Sean. He was the one who stirred the kettle.

Hands down, he was THE nastiest villain that this show has ever seen. No matter what crap he says now, I don't believe a word that comes out of that suckers mouth.

Sean was not a villain, he just said things that people did not want to hear, he was a big mouth, but he was not really nasty to anyone.

Mark Burnett is the evil villain. I cannot believe that Pappy was screwed over the way that he was.

The purple rock was the villain.

Rude snot fluent in Sarcastic...and those are my good points.

'Canes Rock! Beat Canada!

Rob until the end. He even had to do the Kleenex thing on the last show. Granted it was funny, but he had to get in one last jab. It even appeard he was sitting by himself. Obviously no loved lost between him and John. Didn't appear to much interacting between him and the others.

Biggest BS thing of the whole series! Pappy now holds the unique honor of being the one and only person to get voted off during TC without getting ANY, repeat ANY votes.* What a crock! There is no strategy to random chance...unless you are wearing the immunity necklace I suppose. Grumble-mumble-grouch-groan...

*(Skupin didn't leave during TC, so he doesn't count. Skupin has his own unique departure!)

Although Rob was the most outward "bad guy", there was no shortage of bad guys in this series. There was left-and-right backstabbing, lying and word-breaking from Kathy, Vee, Neleh, Paschal, Sean, John, Zoe and Tammy.

"Pappy, you smuggled! I'm so proud of you!" -- Neleh Dennis

*** Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

There was
>left-and-right backstabbing, lying and word-breaking
>from Kathy, Vee, Neleh, Paschal,
>Sean, John, Zoe and Tammy.

Just one question--to whom did Kathy ever backstab, lie or break her word to?

the last show v was the villian if she would have been edited to be the bad guy earlyer s4 would have been better

The alliance switch on Kathy was by far her biggest turn as a villian, but there were other times she pulled a few not so nice things like when she voted for Hunter or even pat instead of Sarah. She sided with two of the series biggest villians: Rob And Sean. And she even turned on Rob.

The problem with the editing was that Vee got maybe a total of 30 minutes out of all the episodes combined (20 from the last episode).