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"New technology is not my friend..."
Posted by moonbaby on 01-20-07 at 08:17 PM
or how my tv world went flat.

I went on a little fact finding mission today. Hit the big box stores looking for a new tv after doing some research on the dubdubdub. I have a few comments, mostly on the RANT side. It appears that CRTs are being phased out and I was willing to embrace the flatty flatness until I discovered something it seems I cannot accept.

Why are these new flat screens in SILVER cabinets? What happened to BLACK? A silver space age looking LCD TV has no place in my home. I want black! Considering the expense they should come in every damn color of the rainbow.

Also, it is a sad day indeed when you are searching for a tv and many of them are larger than the wallspace you have to put it on. I can only imagine that watching tv on a screen that big would be like sitting in the first row at the movie theater.

Will I have to return to CRT land, and find one of the few good ones left around? Does anyone here have an LCD TV? Is it silver? Do you find the frame around it distracting? Has your experience been good?

Thank you for reading

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"RE: New technology is not my friend..."
Posted by Snidget on 01-20-07 at 08:26 PM
LAST EDITED ON 01-20-07 AT 08:29 PM (EST)

Sears.com still has a fairly decent assortment of CRT TV's and it looks like maybe the Toshiba LCD's are in a dark if not black case.

Hope that helps.

ETA: I'm not looking forward to replacing my TV that won't turn off. I've got a small 15" TV and that may be the TV I end up using for the next several years. I don't have the space for a 42" TV nor the couple of thousand dollars they cost, and since I listen more than watch the darn thing anyway it seems a waste. It does seem that is all they want to sell these days at a lot of places.

"Thank you!"
Posted by moonbaby on 01-20-07 at 08:29 PM
Going to check that out right now!

"RE: New technology is not my friend..."
Posted by Buggy on 01-21-07 at 11:03 AM

Snidge, we bought this one for our daughter for her room, last month for Xmas.
24", reasonably priced, name brand. It is silver, but maybe a good replacment for your dying one. It has a good picture.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=3757012

"RE: New technology is not my friend..."
Posted by anotherkim on 01-20-07 at 08:33 PM
I'll make you feel more techno-savy, moonie. What is CRT?

Kimmah Says
--we got our newest tv when one of our renters left it behind. sure wish they'd embraced the flatty flatness, but at least it's big, very stereo and working.

"RE: New technology is not my friend..."
Posted by Snidget on 01-20-07 at 08:52 PM
If I remember it stands for

C athode
R ay
T ube.

Basically what they sold before they had those flat panel things.


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"RE: New technology is not my friend..."
Posted by Maroonclown on 01-20-07 at 09:33 PM
I know it may sound unpallatible but spray paint can change your world.

Craft stores have the most amazing things.

"RE: New technology is not my friend..."
Posted by Snidget on 01-20-07 at 09:42 PM
It may be the bourbon talking but I just had a vision of a TV covered with little fake jewels or pompoms.

It might take a bit of experimentation but you could probably find a paint that would stick and look OK with the right technique.


It's a tribe creation!

"RE: New technology is not my friend..."
Posted by Seana on 01-20-07 at 10:27 PM
It may be the bourbon talking but I just had a vision of a TV covered with little fake jewels or pompoms.

Hahahaha!


Our new TV is silver. I never even thought about colour, but now that moonie mentions it, there wasn't any choice. Unless we wanted to go with the Dora TV or the Superman one.

"Just for Snidget"
Posted by arkiegrl on 01-20-07 at 11:15 PM
"RE: Just for Snidget"
Posted by Snidget on 01-21-07 at 07:36 AM
*gigglesnort*
"RE: Just for Snidget"
Posted by TheFabulousLurker on 01-21-07 at 08:10 AM
hmmmm... Where oh where is my glue gun???

I'm picturing.... multi colored fake rhinestones in a multitude of shapes and sizes...

"RE: Just for Snidget"
Posted by HistoryDetective on 01-21-07 at 10:47 AM
Please keep Tana away from the televisions!

"RE: Just for Snidget"
Posted by Buggy on 01-21-07 at 11:07 AM
*LAUGH*

I was picturing jewels all over it.
Bedazzled!

"RE: New technology is not my friend..."
Posted by RollDdice on 01-22-07 at 11:46 AM
I know it may sound unpalatable but spray paint can change your world.

I smell a Bedazzler!


We're pretty fond of our HD Samsung which is mostly black, with a little silver.

"RE: New technology is not my friend..."
Posted by mysticwolf on 01-20-07 at 09:46 PM
We looked at LCD's. And, I'm pretty sure some of them came in black. Some that we even liked. HP makes one, as does LG (which got very high marks from every site I looked at, and looked good by comparrison in the store) both had black. Check out Best Buy for a selection.

We weren't going to wall mount, however, and ultimately decided that we'd get more for our money - along with something heavy enough the cats and dogs won't knock it off the stand - with a DLP. It's a Samsung, definitely black, larger than any LCD we could have afforded, and we got it for considerably less. Matter of fact, as we've been looking since we bought it to make sure we can't take advantage of the 60-day "best price" guarantee, we're realizing that we got it at a phenomenally good price.

For size, we looked only at 42" and up. We ended up with a 56". We sit about 12' away, and it's a great picture. Turn the lights off and zoom the movie to full-screen, and turn on all of the speakers? It's an amazing experience. And, I HATE sitting too close at a movie theatre.


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"RE: New technology is not my friend..."
Posted by HobbsofMI on 01-20-07 at 10:23 PM
My Pioneer 42" is on a stand and is about 6' from the couch. That is too close but the room it's in won't get bigger until we move.

What I really need is a good 7.1 suround...wireless preferred but I just don't know how good they are or should I stay with something that is wired.


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"RE: New technology is not my friend..."
Posted by mysticwolf on 01-20-07 at 11:23 PM
I can't really help you there, my friend. We have (and had) speakers coming out the wazoo, some of which DH made years ago. They're all wired. I'd like to try wireless, too - but I wasn't about to spend extra money for stuff we didn't need. Wired, or wireless, your money needs to go into the best amp you can find. (And, we already had multiples of those.)

From a purely technical standpoint, if you go wireless and you're in an apartment building, or live close to a neighbor, you could be doing battle royal if they also have a wireless system. At least until you both figure out what's going on, compare notes, and figure out a way to get onto different frequencies.

Unless you can assure you're well out of the way of any possible interference, I'd still say that wired is a better - or at least more stable and controllable - way to go.


A Tribal Christmas blogging's scary

"Bestbuy?"
Posted by IceCat on 01-20-07 at 10:07 PM
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7711201&productCategoryId=pcmcat95100050005&type=product&cmp=++&id=1138086487510

42" Samsung

Appears to have a black case.

"RE: New technology is not my friend..."
Posted by HobbsofMI on 01-20-07 at 10:07 PM
I know there are seveal smaller HD plasma in black at Costco. I think they are ranging from 24" to 32".


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"Thanks!"
Posted by moonbaby on 01-20-07 at 10:36 PM
Just went on a whirlwind tour of more sites. The largest size I can go with is 27"-the moonbase is kinda small. I did find some tvs in basic black-that was a relief. Probably going to check out Sears. Ya know, the place where America shops? I hope not all at once or it will be very crowded. Heeeehee.

Thanks for the suggestions, everyone!

"Sears TV selection"
Posted by IceCat on 01-21-07 at 00:02 AM

Don't forget that, due to the change in aspect ratio, a 27in widescreen has less viewable area than a 27in regular screen. You may want to consider slightly wider than 27in.

Sears TV selection

"RE: Sears TV selection"
Posted by frisky on 01-21-07 at 00:18 AM
*tries to cook up really good "27 inches is too small" joke*


Rolly made this.

"Also..."
Posted by IceCat on 01-21-07 at 07:24 AM

... the phrase 'aspect ratio' has some potential; ie: the classic length vs girth debate.
"RE: New technology is not my friend..."
Posted by Ante Bellum on 01-21-07 at 03:59 AM
LAST EDITED ON 01-21-07 AT 04:05 AM (EST)

Did she just say "how my tittie world went flat?"

Edit: I mean really... I thought we were going to be bashing Allergan.


Handcrafted by RollDdice

"Well..."
Posted by moonbaby on 01-21-07 at 10:41 AM
I am looking for a new boob tube

"RE: Well..."
Posted by Ante Bellum on 01-21-07 at 12:50 PM
See? I knew it!


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"RE: New technology is not my friend..."
Posted by Buggy on 01-21-07 at 11:15 AM
I know what you mean about black TV's, black appliances of all kinds just seem to be less visible.


"Moonie!"
Posted by Meemo on 01-22-07 at 09:47 AM
I just went through the tv buying process about 3 months ago.

We ended up with a 32" LG LCD. And it's black!

One thing to keep in mind, is that unless you plan on upgrading your programming (to HD), a flat panel will likely give you less picture quality than a CRT.

Based on basic cable feed, I would rather watch our 10 year old 25" Zenith CRT than the new LG. But we have HD programming, which makes it worthwhile.

Hope that helps!



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Oh, and be prepared for the upsell. From mounts to stands to HDMI cables....there's alot they'll throw at you. Send me a PM or e-mail if you have any questions.

"RE: New technology is not my friend..."
Posted by Brownroach on 01-22-07 at 11:17 AM
I've been looking at flat-screen TVs and it seems to me I've seen a fair number with black frames, IceCat's recommended Samsung being one of them. To me the Samsungs seem to have the best picture, that is probably what I will get eventually.


Blowin' the blues away, courtesy of tribephyl

"*sits waiting patiently*"
Posted by IceCat on 01-22-07 at 11:18 AM

With a box of microwave popcorn, the economy size pack of Junior Mints, and a gallon of Merlot in a giant cup with two crazy straws.
"RE: New technology is not my friend..."
Posted by RollDdice on 01-22-07 at 11:59 AM
As I mentioned above, Samsung is definitely worth a look.

And if you find a LCD you like, don't worry too much about the p or i at the end of the model number -- unless you're a video engineer doing QC (Quality Control) on network television programs every day, you won't see the difference between Progressive and Interlace scanning.


Stay away from the kerosene-powered sets, though.