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"Drama Preservation Society."

Posted by Estee on 03-16-09 at 08:25 AM
Also known as 'other reasons not to fire Dennis'.

...

...and I'm fresh out.

Was anyone going to win that challenge based on sales? If you're just getting people in, one-day bridal events require more luck than anything else: not only do you need people to spot the immediate advertising (assuming you did any) and find your shop, but you also need brides willing to commit on the spot. Those tend to be in short supply.

So this was really all about pulling out the black books and using them to overwhelm the power of luck -- and in that department, the women won out. (Note the number of total dresses sold by each team, then ask how many went to women who were actually getting married.) I think Tom was at a disadvantage for knowing the product, but I also think he could have educated himself in a hurry and gotten around to re-opening his book: the PM has to lead contribution charges whenever possible. This wasn't the auto-doom he thought it was -- the actual loss was a group effort. Except for Dennis, who doesn't consider himself to be part of any group.

Dennis should have gone out last night -- but the DPS kicked into action and saved what isn't exactly a reality television endangered species. There's always more drama coming along. In fact, it looks like we're taking custody of a major shipment next week. And we didn't order it, we don't want it, and no one will let us send it back.

We're only on the third episode and it's already been a long season.



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"RE: Drama Preservation Society."
Posted by Snidget on 03-16-09 at 08:32 AM
The Donald is not about to lose to AI in the battle of tattooed reality TV contestants.

If Megan doesn't leave, Dennis can't leave.


"RE: Drama Preservation Society."
Posted by jbug on 03-16-09 at 08:54 AM
Wonder if Donald thought he may have made a mistake by firing Scott last week and keeping Tom. Course Donald prefers to keep those who stir up the most drama - and Tom fulfilled his obligation for that.
Dennis? gives pro ballers (pun?) a bad name. Calling on his strip club friends for a stripper model.
Why has Dennis not called any of his ball buddies for some big money.
Why did Tom not call on anyone for money?
Do they expect Clint and Hershal's little black books to be unending?
Was Tom really so stoopid as to think he didn't need to decorate?

BTW, who pays for the costs of their "projects"?

Wonder if Athena's PM called on the Heff for a big contribution? (can't remember her name).

Dennis may think he's the big bad dude next week, but I expect Clint knows someone who can break his kneecaps (just kiddin)

Can't decide if I prefer the projects where they are raising money & the winner is based on total $ brought in or those where they produce something that is judged to be best.
Even tho the larger amounts of money are great for the charities, I like the other projects better. Those really show which team does a better job - rather than just which ones can call the biggest pocketbooks.

The girl who was PM last week got the shaft for her charity. $20,000.
This week over $160,000.
So if they want to earn the most for their charities, they should hold out for a project where they'll be raising money.


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"RE: Drama Preservation Society."
Posted by Estee on 03-16-09 at 09:13 AM
I honestly don't know if Dennis has any friends left in the NBA: he burned every bridge he ever crossed and then set a few extra on fire in case he ever considered crossing them. Plus the default state of your average retired NBA player is 'broke'.

Dennis called in an exotic dancer? Oh, so that's what happened while I was taking the phone call... Well, if you're just looking for someone to model a dress, it's a better choice than Tom was. On the other hand, if she's standing in the middle of the showroom demonstrating removal of the dress, you may have a problem.

Project costs -- each minicorp typically receives some cash to cover all expenses, including decorations and advertising. We've gotten glimpses of the task assignment sheets on rare episodes, and the available budget is always printed there. It's typically between $500-$1000 for operating costs.

Yes, the amount of money you can raise for your charity per task is a roulette spin. Donald operates casinos. He expects them to deal with it.

And if Brandi's going to call someone with a heavy interest in marriage, the last person she'd ever ask would be Hugh Hefner...


"RE: Drama Preservation Society."
Posted by Loree on 03-16-09 at 09:17 AM
I do not like the tasks that are all about calling up their rich friends to buy whatever they are selling. It makes no difference it is wedding gowns or cup cakes. The women were telling people they could just throw the wedding dresses out. Everything else seems pointless then. I want real challenges where the contestants have to work instead of phone friends.

Dennis obviously did not even want to do this show and was talked into it. He doesn't care if they win or lose. He wants to get his TV time and then do his thing. And Trump wants him around so badly that he is throwing everyone else under the bus to protect Dennis and keep him around for ratings.

From the previews for the series we see Dennis acting like a maid in a hotel on one task. So until that challenge shows up we know Dennis is not getting fired. I knew Tom was going lastnight because of that. Dennis had not been a maid yet. Will the women treat him the same as the men when they finally split up the teams?


"RE: Drama Preservation Society."
Posted by mindy23 on 03-16-09 at 10:51 AM
Yep, the Trumpster knows how to capitalize on the drama queen factor. I wonder how much he actually paid Rodman to even appear (if you can call it that) on this show??

I felt bad for Tom. He was totally set up, but it didn't help that he was out all night with the Russian 'model', and some 'bilionaire.comers'. Whatever. Tom is Tom, just like Rodman-way too hard to control. The men will be better off without him, and they never had Dennis to begin with.

I see a hard hitter like Poker lady coming over to their team to straighten out a few things. But the men are actually pretty decent as a team, as it stands. They've just had a few wrenches thrown in, and as long as Rodman has to be dealt with, they are not going to have great chances of winning.

Funny, because everyone really thought that he was going to be the heavy man to bring in the big bucks and so far, he's done ZILCH! What a total loser!!!



"RE: Drama Preservation Society."
Posted by Cyndimaus on 03-16-09 at 11:49 AM
I agree with those of you who said they prefer a "good product" project as compared to a "most money raised" project. It doesn't take that much to call your money buddies and get them to contribute to charity. But this is supossed to be about business (I know the lines get blurred when you have celebs on the show) and I'd love to see more of that actually matter.

Fact is, the girls did a better job at this task, aside from the money factor. Their store was appealing and they really put some thought into it. The guys didn't seem to care. They just wanted to make calls for money.

I like that the money goes to charity, but I'd rather there be a set amount as the prize (like last week) and let these people actually try to do the project well.

Perhaps Tom would have done a better job if the project had been task oriented instead of money oriented.


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"RE: Drama Preservation Society."
Posted by krismiss2us on 03-16-09 at 03:19 PM
Tom was only there to perform his act....with Rodman as his sidekick. And Rodman's nothing more than a spoiled brat looking to get back in the limelight after NBA "retirement".

"RE: Drama Preservation Society."
Posted by mtopaz on 03-16-09 at 03:37 PM
I don't care who goes from the men's team, as long as it isn't Jessie James. I can see why Sandra Bullock loves this guy.


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"RE: Drama Preservation Society."
Posted by samboohoo on 03-16-09 at 03:54 PM
Agree.

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"RE: Drama Preservation Society."
Posted by Belle Book on 03-16-09 at 04:23 PM
I think Jesse James and Clint Black should be the final 2 guys.

Belle Book


"RE: Drama Preservation Society."
Posted by Wacko Jacko on 03-17-09 at 01:58 PM
The best guy...to me is Herschel....but unto Dennis.

Oddly Dennis has appeared on our reality shows and has faired well. He won Celebrity Mole and Hulk Hogan Celebrity Wrestling. Maybe even others.

Here he looks like he checked out before he even began. Why he signed up is beyond me.

To me these shows work if people care. if they don't than they kill the show.

I personally think if it is drama....both Tom and Dennis provided that. Actually, if I didn't see the preview for next weeks show I would argue Tom provided more drama. Tom provided more period. He wanted to win, but he also offer ideas and worked. he also stirred up a lot of drama....and that drama did not help Scott Hamilton. We already saw others were annoyed with Tom.

Tom also provided comedy. Dennis adds nothing to the show other than his name. I guess when it came to firing Tom or Dennis...Donald determined that Dennis would provide better ratings.

It is all a shame. I really do enjoy this show. Always have and now with it on one season per year I probably look more forward to it than ever.

Also, too bad all the guys are getting fired because other than Joan Rivers none of the women are even celebrities. Who are this women? Ok, Melissa Rivers is famous too but for nothing more than being Joan's daughter.


"RE: Drama Preservation Society."
Posted by qwertypie on 03-17-09 at 04:46 PM
And here I thought the women would be decimated because of lack of star-power.
Good thing I don't bet money on these things.

"RE: Drama Preservation Society."
Posted by Belle Book on 03-17-09 at 06:44 PM
I know! I wondered if the women would do as well because they lack star power. I had no way of knowing that the men would self-destruct the way they did!

Belle Book


"Donald's wrong."
Posted by Estee on 03-23-09 at 09:47 AM
Dennis doesn't have a drinking problem. Drinking has a Dennis problem. If you're an innocent glass of alcohol, do you really want something as foul as Dennis coming near you?

"RE: Drama Preservation Society."
Posted by jbug on 03-23-09 at 11:41 AM
I don't get the Rodman blow up at Clint Black.
I watched the video twice on the web site.
Rodman is sitting on some steps way off away from the others. The 2 teams are discussing which time slot they want to present in.
Anne & Clint get together to talk about it. Both want the 2nd slot. Neither will budge.
Rodman is yelling across the room at Clint. Can't understand what he is saying because of all the bleeps.
Clint & Anne decide they'll flip a coin. Anne tells Clint to call - he calls tails - it comes up tails.
Rodman jumps up and comes over to them cursing and then starts jabbing his finger right in Clint's face. Sounds like he is saying something about "white".
Then he stalks off across the room, throws his phone (?) down and goes out.

What the heck was that all about?


"RE: Drama Preservation Society."
Posted by Estee on 03-23-09 at 12:45 PM
What the heck was that all about?

Rebounds.


"RE: Drama Preservation Society."
Posted by Cyndimaus on 03-23-09 at 01:16 PM
I think the men were discussing later that Rodman smelled of alcohol so maybe his illogical reactions and such were because he was drunk.

I wish the men had lost just to see what would have happened. Would Dennis have been fired or would the PM have been fired for refusing to use him.


"RE: Drama Preservation Society."
Posted by mindy23 on 03-30-09 at 09:41 AM
Don't know when this last episode (3/29) aired, but I see that Rodman DID go into rehab on May 5th, 2008. Think it was BEFORE or AFTER??? Any clues??

www.people.com rodman goes into rehab



"RE: Drama Preservation Society."
Posted by aquariaqueen on 03-30-09 at 10:17 AM
LAST EDITED ON 03-30-09 AT 10:18 AM (EST)

Wow, it's amazing how drastic the temperment change is once he starts drinking. It's like a light switch. My brother is a mean drunk....I don't think Dennis was mean, just irrational. And the change seems to come on quickly, but then again, he started out with 3 drinks ordered.

I like how DR dragged Jesse into the mess, and I think Jesse was the right one to point out the differences in his persona once he drinks. And then, unfortunately, but politely showing the differences between Herschel and Dennis.

Joan's comments that it was like an intervention was exactly what I was thinking.

I hope he realizes he needs the help and gets it.


“I love Jesus but I drink a little”. Gladys Hardy


"RE: Drama Preservation Society."
Posted by Loree on 03-30-09 at 11:09 AM
While watching the show I thought it was one of the most hilarious episodes of this show I have seen. Then they hit the boardroom. And it because awkward and just sad. I kept thinking intervention too. And they even did the AA hotline over the closing credits.

"RE: Drama Preservation Society."
Posted by Estee on 03-30-09 at 11:09 AM
Well before: the season filmed last October.

"RE: Drama Preservation Society."
Posted by mindy23 on 03-30-09 at 12:55 PM
>Well before: the season filmed
>last October.


Then it took another 7 months, I'm assuming, for him to get a forced rehab stint?? I bet you anything he checked himself out! As always.......never staying for the long haul, or the end of the game, so to speak. WOW.


"RE: Drama Preservation Society."
Posted by Paul Cook on 03-30-09 at 05:55 PM
It's sad to watch reality TV shows deal with alcoholics. Everyone grabs a stiff posture and acts like someone with tourettes is having an episode in the corner.

Almost all reality shows encourage getting wasted on camera. They don't realize that about 20% of those people are probably alcoholic and will most likely die of the spirits the show is requiring. Drinking isn't the deal on The Apprentice, but check every other show that displays pretty people competing for a pride filled prize. Usually the alcoholics get weeded out from these shows in the first half and everyone grabs a deep sigh while saying, "I'm glad Krazy is gone now - she scared me!" It's as if they got rid of the lazy or unintelligent participant and now they can begin winning.

Fortunately, the American Medical Association doesn't look at alcoholism like we look at lazy and unintelligent. They call it a disease, not of will, but of the body. Maybe we should start kicking off the reality contestants with Multiple Sclerosis. They deteriorate slower than the true alcoholic.

I don't say Rodman shouldn't take responsibilty, just like MS patients, Rodman is in charge of his recovery, not his disease. Sunday night we watched his disease running the show. Alcoholism was the Project Manager.

Paul Cook
author of COOKED in LA


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