To answer my own question, I see that there is just one (1!) two-hour episode left, and it will be on at the same time as the Survivor season finale. Sorry DH, but you are going to have to wait a day or two.

How can they wrap all the loose ends up in two hours? I predict we will be here (in this thread) next week grumbling about some unfinished business.

Does he really think she's hung up on another guy? I can't recall if, when peering through the window, you could tell that it was Lee helping Lynette out of the dress. Does Tom think it's someone else?

In the previews they show him saying something like, "You have to say these things while you can." Is he telling her that thinking it's someone else?

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It was definitely set up that Tom was coming back to Lynette, but saw another man undressing her. I don't think it was clear to Tom that the other man was Lee. Tom seemed to turn away rather quickly, or he might have seen that it was just Lee.

The part with Lee helping her undress was ridiculous, IMO. Gay or not, I don't see her having a neighbour help her undress. (I almost never have a neighbour guy over to help me undress. )

operative word is "almost"

Okay, Sunday was for Survivor, so tonight was for DH. Pretty good show, and pretty much as we expected.

Spoilers below:
- Tom and Lynette reconcile, are threatened again by Lynette's career (thanks to Katherine Mayfair's brief return)
- Karen feels the love from the street, and in her dying days takes the blame for the murder freeing all the others
- Renee gets married, and not surprisingly is bridezilla
- Susan's daughter has her baby, just as Karen is dying. Susan sells her house, and is the first to leave the lane.
- Gaby and Carlos have a roll-reversal from season 1, but seem to have figured out their love
- Bree and the lawyer split, but only briefly and he wins her back

As predicted up there ^^ they end up playing poker, and then as Susan drives off the lane many ghost characters from the whole series are standing along the lane watching her leave. I did not see Edie Britt. Was Orson Hodge there?

All in all a good ending. Stories of the future, but other than a couple of very brief future scenes (Lynette with grandkids in Central Park, Gaby and Carlos in California, Bree off to Kentucky and become a politician. There could have been a Susan bit too, but I block her scenes out ) but these are IMO tastefully brief.

Thoughts?

I watched Survivor Sunday also. Watched DH last night.

All in all I was pretty happy with the way they wrapped it up. I cried a little. I still don't get why they killed Mike off, it left for an unsatisfactory Susan storyline for me. Although, I do agree with Boo that it did give Susan some of her best scenes.

The one thing I did not like was the voice over saying they never got together again. For one thing Susan and Lynette share a grandchild. For another - as close as they all were I don't see them never getting together - usually money is the biggest deterrent for regular get togethers and it seems they were all pretty well off in the end.

I cried when Karen died. I think they should have shown Julie naming the baby Karen. Yes, I'm a sap.

Farewell Desperate Housewives.

Agree with you, but I'm going to post my own thoughts.

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I wasn't crazy about the Finale. Somewhere I read that the viewers would get a satisfying ending. I don't think we really did. It wasn't the worst finale I've ever seen (*coughcoughSEINFELDcoughcough), but it also wasn't that great. I saw a little of it Sunday night while at the gym, but I watched it all last night.

Tom/Lynette: So it seems that Tom did think Lynette was with another man and didn't realize it was Lee. This was somewhat stupid to me because in the episodes leading up to it, Tom saw that Lynette was trying to hold on. I loved the reunion in the middle of the street and what he said to her. I didn't really love them going to New York. I agree with Tummy about Susan and Lynette sharing a grandchild. I also need to go back to look at it, but they showed what looked to be an "older" Lynette playing in the park with her six grandchildren. One of her grandchildren should have been Julie's daughter, and it wasn't. So I just didn't really love their ending after them getting back together. And we were left wondering what became of Tom.

Renee: Meh. I had no real connection to her. Did she end up staying on Wysteria Lane? Of all of the ladies, except for maybe Gabby, Renee was the one I saw with the penthouse in New York.

Susan & Julie: I'll lump them together since they are together. Why did they give us anything with Julie's doctor if that was never resolved? Did she end up with that doctor? What about Lynette's son? Was he ever a good father? What did Susan do after Julie finished school?

Gabby & Carlos: Agree with you. I actually loved their role reversal. I thought they had the funny scenes of the night - especially with the gardener and at the courthouse, etc.

Bree: I knew she would end up with him, and I'm glad she finally got a man who wan't a whack. I can totally see her ending that way. Good ending for her.

Karen: I absolutely loved Karen's story. I hated that she died, but I loved the way it was done. Absolutely perfect! How funny was it that Karen overhears Gabby & Carlos and then uses the same words in court. And then we had Tom sitting on the porch with Karen's husband, and he uses those same words with Lynette. I too cried. I just loved it!!!

At the end we saw all of the people, and I didn't remember several of them. The little boy with Karen. Was that the little boy Susan accidentally killed (Edie's crazy husband's kid)?

I'm sure we didn't see Edie because of Nicollette's lawsuit. Orson wasn't there, but he didn't die. Were they all dead people? Now I can't recall. We really didn't get a full Orson wrap-up.

I too find it hard to believe they would never get together again. I realize that people drift apart, but I just don't think these girls would have.

Then there's the whole new mystery. Susan was the first to leave, and her new neighbor had the secret. Gabby was there for a while after Susan, so was Bree. I somewhat get why they ended it that way, but I don't think it was needed.

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Re you comments on Tom, Orson, and even Mike: This was Desperate Housewives, and despite the important role those guys played in the show, it was all about the women. Renee needed to get married to somewhat close her story, but she wasn't a main character like the others. Ditto for Julie - we didn't really need closure on her. That said, I actually would like to have had some closure on Orson since he had such a long (and complex) story.

What is Nicolette's lawsuit? I must have missed that one.

I hated the NYC for Lynette, but they wanted to end with them all leaving Wysteria, and that was the way to get her out.

While I somewhat agree that these ladies would likely get together, maybe the point was that all four wouldn't get together at once again. Even that seems like a stretch, but at least a bit feasible compared to any of the 4 getting together.

I enjoyed the show, but even Karen's death didn't make me cry (and I am usually a sap). I am glad they didn't name the baby Karen (that would have been too sappy) although I suspect they might have actually done that (since they juxtaposed the birth and the death) and then even they decided that was too sappy (plus Karen was somewhat close with the other DHs, but not with Julie who would have picked the name).

Was Seinfeld so bad? I thought it was fitting for that show. I was not a watcher of The Sopranos or Lost, but understand that both of those ended very poorly. Tough to end a series nicely.

Nicollette sued Cherry for wrongful termination. She says he assaulted her, she reported it, she was killed off for it. Mike's death was spoiled as a result of the trial. I think it was a mistrial, I can't remember. She might be suing ABC now.

I hated the Seinfeld ending. And the Sopranos.

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The Seinfeld ending would have been fine if they compressed the stuff they did show into a half hour - the court scenes went on and on and on, and they didn't have much of a story otherwise.

Kathryn Joosten, who portrayed Karen McCluskey, died at the age of 72 of lung cancer.

I can't imagine what was going through her head while she filmed the final episodes. What an actress! She didn't even start acting until the age of 42.

She will be remembered.

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