Not sure I agree with all the catagories and I thought Theresa said she was supposed to be in S2 not S4, but she was too similar to Tina (S2) so they bumped her. I could have my facts wrong on that though. For argument sake though I will accept your catagories and place the S4 people who fit where based soley on their bio'sTribe #1: The Schemers (S2: Ogakor; S3: Samburu)
Ok here I'll put the Rotu's
The mommy (S2: Tina; S3: Teresa)
Vecepia Towery, 36, Portland, OR
Office ManagerOlder than Gina and Sarah, and the role fits the age at least.
The bitch (S2: Jerri; S3: Lindsey)
Gina Crews, 28, Gainsville, FL
Nature GuideI dunno just a hunch.
The ditz (S2: Amber; S3: Kim P.)
Sarah Jones, 24, Newport Beach, CA
Accounts ManagerShe reminds me of Amber, only better looking.
The outspoken one (S2: Maralyn; S3: Linda)
Patricia Jackson, 49, Lugoff, SC
Truck AssemblerNot that anyone can understand her (from what Bungler says on the screen cap thread).
The outsider (S2: Kel; S3: Frank)
Hunter Ellis, 33, La Jolla, CA
Fed Ex PilotMilitary man, expects order in choas.
The jester (S2: Mitchell; S3: Silas)
Rob Marioano, 26, Canton, MA
Construction WorkerLovable idiot.
The plotter (S2: Colby; S3: Brandon)
Peter Hawkey, 45, Millis, MA
Bowling Alley/Wine Shop OwnerI was running out of people types.
The father (S2: Keith; S3: Carl)
Sean Rector, 30, Harlem, NY
TeacherThe Bible touting teacher... sounds about right.
Tribe #2: The Community (S2: Kucha; >S3: Boran)
That would leave us with Maraamu
The introvert (S2: Nick; S3: Ethan)
Gabriel Cade, 23, Celo, NC
BartenderHe and John may be switched, but he kinda looks like Ethan... does that count
The leader (S2: Jeff; S3: Lex)
Paschal English, 57, Thomaston, GA
JudgeA judge typically would fit this catagory, I think.
The farmer (S2: Roger; S3: Tom)
Robert De Canio, 38, Queens, NY
Limo DriverPerhaps caricture would be a better title, this guy just fits the mold of the typical New Yorker, and I bet he has a mean accent.
The awkward one (S2: Michael; S3: Clarence)
John Carroll, 36, Omaha, NE
Registered NurseNo matter whether he's gay or straight he might be a bit awkward.
The sweetheart (S2: Elisabeth; S3: Jessie)
Neleh Dennis, 21, Layton, UT
StudentA real cutie, but looks weak to me.
The leading lady (S2: Debb; S3: Diane)
Tammy Leitner, 29, Mesa, AZ
ReporterReporters love attention.
The loudmouth (S2: Kimmi; S3: Kelly)
Kathy Vavrick-O’Brien, 47, Burlington, VT
Real Estate AgentSales people NEVER shut up!
The strong one (S2: Alicia; S3: See Note)
Zoe Zanidakis, 35, Monhegan Island, ME
Fishing Boat CaptainNo one fits better from the bios than her!
Not too bad a fit 3E dude!
-ICB
Tribe #1: The Schemers will be: RotuThe Mommy (S2: Tina; S3: Teresa)
Patricia
She's the only one on the tribe that fits the age requirement and she's married with 2 children as well. (She's one of the reasons I made this tribe the schemers as well, as Kathy and Zoe do not seem to be motherly types)
The ##### (S2: Jerri; S3: Lindsey)
Sarah
This is really a huge guess....she just seems to fit the look and also she's moved around a lot in her life like Jerri and she's part of the corporate world....
The Ditz (S2: Amber; S3: Kim P.)
Rob
Yeah okay so the ditz is usually a cute girl....I need to fill the slot....I don't know; All brawn no brains? ^-^;;
The Outspoken One (S2: Maralyn; S3: Linda)
Vecepia
Formerly of the air force, now an office manager
Another military type....they've never been the quiet types.
Plus she could have been cast as a no nonsense Alicia/Linda type.The Outsider (S2: Kel; S3: Frank)
Hunter
He's a military man, Frank was a military man, Kel was a military man....does it need anymore explanation?
The Jester (S2: Mitchell; S3: Silas)
Gina
I mean honestly she's the "Watermelon Queen"!
The Plotter (S2: Colby; S3: Brandon)
Sean
Well he has a psychology degree and he's a teacher....the plotter is hard to ID without any footage.
The Father (S2: Keith; S3: Carl)
Peter
Again he fits the age group and he actually is married and a father of two. Looks like a nice guy I guess.
Tribe #2: The Community will be: Maraamu
The Introvert (S2: Nick; S3: Ethan)John
Well he may or may not be "the gay one" this year....he seems to enjoy helping others and learning through higher education (he's currently studying law; Spent a few years in the military. Possibly the bookworm type?
The leader (S2: Jeff; S3: Lex)
Paschal
Well he's a judge....he's used to being completely in control. This may lead to some weird type of B.B. Anderson deja vu though....
The farmer (S2: Roger; S3: Tom)
Gabriel
Closest thing to the farmer that I see....he looks "LA" but he's from NC so I figure he's got to have some kinda accent. He looks like a charming guy and he grew up on his family's farm.
Sounds like a nice guy (man for others) in his bio.The awkward one (S2: Michael; S3: Clarence)
Robert
He worked in the postal service for 18 1/2 years. Reaching, I know....He drives a limo for a living (where did I get this?) and is still single (not that there's anything wrong with that ^-^;;) His bio says he works in customer services; My sister works in customer services (not exotic dancing btw she got a real job) and you don't know awkward until you've met her. Another hunch I guess.
The sweetheart (S2: Elisabeth; S3: Jessie)
Neleh
Easily the "cute one" on the show....also a devout Mormon (luxury item: scriptures) and majorly into volunteer work and helping others if you read her bio (even if Webby does think it's only for her resume/university app ;)
The leading lady (S2: Debb; S3: Diane)
Zoe
She's a fishing boat captain, which means on her team, she's the boss and that's that. She looks like a very outspoken person.
Has also been in charge of a hotel, a restaurant and a gift shop....she seems to have good managerial skills as well as other skills (she has a captains licence from the US coast guard and is working towards a helicopter licence)and seems to enjoy sporty outdoorsy things which could actually make her the leader and Paschal the "leading lady" =)The loudmouth (S2: Kimmi; S3: Kelly)
Kathy
Kathy goes here because Tammy looks a hell of a lot stronger than her....she's a real estate agent so you know her job is to talk and talk and talk until she gets the sale. I could also see her vying for a leadership role. Doesn't seem to have great people skills if you look at the success of her marriages (but not knowing the details I can't really judge on that)
The strong one (S2: Alicia; S3: See Note)
Tammy
She looks very physically fit and has to be competitive being that she is a reporter (work that she has recieved awards for)
According to her bio she'll do anything for the story. She once saved a man from drowning. Has also spent time behind bars to get an inside crime report and has burst into a burning building.<<Leitner's hobbies include running, biking, lifting weights, kickboxing, camping, photography and traveling.>>
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I'll take a stab at it, but remember we were totally wrong about Kelly, Brandon, and Frank last time. We never thought they would make it to the jury.Mommy- Vecepia,36
Witch- Sarah,24, she's Jerri with a body
Ditz- Gina,28, maybe more of a Liz type though
Outspoken- Patricia,49, one of the first to go, Mad Dog type
Outsider- Peter,45, can't get a handle on this guy
Jester- Rob,26, cute,strong type
Plotter- Hunter,33, he reminds me of Colby more than Frank, even with his military background
Father- Sean,30, maybe one of these days a black male will have a chance, and then again there's ClarenceIntrovert- Gabriel,23, reminds me of Ethan, but ballet dancing??
Leader- John,36, is he or isn't he? and does it matter?
Farmer- Robert,38, an early bootee
Awkward- Paschal,57, read BB or Carl
Sweetheart- Neleh,21, practicing Mormon, decent,friendly type
Leading Lady- Zoe,35, first to go
Loudmouth- Kathy,47, Diane vibes,not long for game
Strong- Tammy,29, from my home town, got to root for her
>Very Cool post sleeve... you have some very valid points. I decided to change up who I thought was which tribe... I think Rotu will be the scheming tribe and Marwhatever will be the community tribe. I also made a couple of adjustments, just to shake things up a bit... hope you don't mind sleeeve!
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>Mommy- Kathy -her age (47) and the fact she has kids is the biggest reason. Just from her bio and first impressions (her luxury item is paints -very crafty and momish) she seems like the positive mother type.
>Witch- Tammy - her bio depicts a very strong and independant woman, and lots of times, that means she going to be edited to be the #####
>Ditz- Neleh - I just can't see her forming alliances, or doing any kind of backstabbing or politicking in this game, and I'm pretty sure she'll just follow whoever is in her lead.
>Outspoken- Robert - A voodoo doll for a luxury item?? Bio makes him seem confrontational. I debated putting him in the outsider category too... which he very well could be. I have a feeling he'll be very outspoken and I think he'll conflict big time with kathy, john and neleh (just a guess of course)
>Outsider- Zoe -I'm guessing either outspoken or outsider. I picked outsider for her because of her job, and the fact that it's such a loner job. Plus, I'm getting this "I like being alone" kind of vibe.
>Hot guy - Gabriel - I can't believe you didn't put this into the equation sleeeve! Greg, Colby, and Silas... all very different guys but all very strong, and very hot. Greg and Silas just happened to be at the wrong end of the stick.
>Plotter- John -He seems like a nice guy on paper, but he also seems like a very driven guy, plus he's studying to be a lawyer, AND he has big time people skills. Sounds like a plotter to me (reminds me of Jeff from S2)
>Father- Paschal - he's a judge.. how much more fatherly can you get? Unfortunately, I don't think neleh is going to be strong enough to stop mr. P from getting an early boot for being the weakest in the tribe.
Introvert- Peter - I couldn't decided whether to put someone in here, though there does seem to be at least one introvert in each survivor... but the producers may have figured out how boring that is and cut that character out... but I don't know where to place peter so I'll just place him here!
>Leader- Hunter - This guy will definitely take the leadership role! Which will help him in the beginning but probably make him very vulnerable after the merge. Plus he may rub people the wrong way (the risk you take when you lead)
>Awkward- Sean - A bible toter from harlem... who loves malcolm X... I don't know if he will be able to relate to anyone in the group, even vecepia...
>Sweetheart- Sarah - she's the only one other than neleh that would cover this spot and you all know what I think of neleh...
>Leading Lady- Patricia - from the promos and bio, she seems way way too outspoken... I think she'll be the first to get the boot
>Loudmouth- Gina - I don't know if she'll be this way, but I think it'll either be her or Vecepia...tough to call for this one
>Strong- Vecepia - I honestly don't know where else to put her. She's not really that strong... maybe gina... maybe no one...
Jester- Rob So I switched the jester to this group... I don't think there are any real farmers in the group so I'm cutting out the farmer... I picked rob for jester because of his bio... no one else in the other group seemed to fit the bill.So that's all folks.. lemme know what you guys think!
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sleeeve,
I think this analysis is quite wonderful. It's never going to be a perfect fit, but overall this works VERY well.I worked a lot with the bios and team make-up today as I was putting up an astrology thread on Bashers.
this being the link:http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/DCForumID1/961.shtml#
It's very non-technical astrology, Sun, Moon, Elements.
Near the bottom I did an analysis of each team that you guys might find worth looking at. I also did a basic age breakdown and "family member" type analysis for each tribe.It turns out the Maraamu are MOSTLY the FIRE stong ego and individual types, and the ambitious manipulative types (Capricorns), in other words, TRIBE #1.
And the ROTU are the WATER team with 2 AIR people and one lone Capricorn, Kathy. Many of them are healers, helpers, caretakers, community-oriented types. TRIBE #2.
Actually this is also the order they are shown across cbs.com.
Tribe 1 has more Extroverts, doers, leaders, and stars...
Tribe 2 has more Introvert, Feeling types, with the exception of Robert, who is only about 24 hours older than Lex, if you can believe that coincidence.Two tatooed guys born one day apart in the sign of the Twins on consecutive Survivors. The one born later cast on the later show... it's spooky.
Anyway, my analysis is there. I am a little busy and worn out now, or I'd try to fill in your types here. I'll come back.
I also think that Tribe 2 (Water Signs) has an edge IN the water, based on all the water activities I see in their bios.Re Tina/Teresa, I am fairly sure I remember this right. Teresa was never considered for S2, rather she was nearly bumped from S3 to S4 because she was too much like the woman who had just won S2. Makes sense.
With every season, we must surely be learning