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"The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Estee on 03-03-05 at 08:32 PM
Please keep all information, discussion, and in-progress spoilers about the episode on this thread until those on the West Coast have a chance to see it. Thank you. Remember: the sight of Chris in a clown outfit isn't something you can really prepare people for anyway.
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"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by ARnutz on 03-03-05 at 08:53 PM
It's almost time for Audrey to lose it! Oh.the.drama.
"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Estee on 03-03-05 at 08:56 PM
Volsfan, your copyright infringement lawyer is on Line #1...
"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by ARnutz on 03-03-05 at 08:58 PM
Silly! Does he even watch this show?
"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by ARnutz on 03-04-05 at 09:18 AM
Duh!!! Of course he watches! He must've been over on the Survivor boards last night. How could I forget that?
"Whoa..."
Posted by IceCat on 03-03-05 at 09:04 PM
Somebody has 'issues'...
"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Loree on 03-03-05 at 09:04 PM
Girls Hated Me Because I was Beautiful
"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by seahorse on 03-03-05 at 09:04 PM
LAST EDITED ON 03-03-05 AT 09:05 PM (EST)

Audrey is having a breakdown. She said she was always so beautiful as a kid and was disliked because of it.

"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by ARnutz on 03-03-05 at 09:05 PM
Audrey: blah, blah, blah, whine, whine

Don't hate me 'cause I'm beautiful!

"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Fishercat on 03-03-05 at 09:06 PM
Audrey's bitching and moaning about people *gasp* saying she's the weak link in the boardroom! She's whining about her horrible childhood and how everyone hated her because she is beautiful and blah blah blah.

And she keeps going on a tangent because John is saying she'll make more money because she's pretty and sweet, and now she's angry because John doesn't trust her.

Chris and John are completely right (what are the odds you'll hear that about Chris again?), you're on a national reality show for a high power position, and the boardroom is a sharktank. Audrey has no shot at winning if she keeps up the whiny, need to get the final word thing in.

Although, the scariest thing in this episode might not be Audrey's bitchy attitude, rather Chris in a clown suit.

"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by ARnutz on 03-03-05 at 09:06 PM
I love John! He tells it like it is!

This whole thing started w/ Craig and now Audrey is going off on John?!?

"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by seahorse on 03-03-05 at 09:08 PM
John has got to be the favorite to win this game. He is wise.
"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Fishercat on 03-03-05 at 09:10 PM
I think him or Alex definitely have a chance, although Tana hasn't done anything stupid in my recollection, and there's plenty of no-names left.
"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by kathliam on 03-03-05 at 09:15 PM
Did you catch the shot of John against the New York skyline as it faded to his profile? Money shot for the season?

Am I the only person who thinks John is Vince Vaughn's dopplebanger? Maybe it was the commercial for the new John Travola movie

"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Loree on 03-03-05 at 09:16 PM
Yes! I see the John/Vince thing too.
"He is a jerk and will alienate people"
Posted by bothered on 03-03-05 at 10:35 PM
HE is a jerk and may be candid but he tanked his responsibility. Audrey was right about that.
"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by seahorse on 03-03-05 at 09:07 PM
Audrey is going to have problems this episode.
"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by ARnutz on 03-03-05 at 09:11 PM
The teams are going to Chelsea Piers to design there mini golf courses.

DT says he wants them to be fabulous and featured in Golf Digest.

Have there been mini golf courses featured in Golf Digest?!?

What the heck?

"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by ARnutz on 03-03-05 at 09:15 PM
Audrey: I want to throw my hat in the ring to be PM, I've played miniature golf.

John says no he doesn't trust his future with her leading.

She tries to convince them. She succeeds!

They will be throwing her to the wolves if she loses!!!

"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by kathliam on 03-03-05 at 09:16 PM
John's no fool.
"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Loree on 03-03-05 at 09:20 PM
Audrey is playing right into John's trap.
"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by ARnutz on 03-03-05 at 09:17 PM
Magna:

Stephanie is PM, the theme is safari.

Kendra is saying how marketing is the key to succeeding.

"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by kathliam on 03-03-05 at 09:25 PM
Well, I am Donald Trump, after all. If I f@rt, it should be in Golf Digest. Or Fortune. Whatever, as long as they spell the nane correctly.
"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Fishercat on 03-03-05 at 09:16 PM
Haha, John just rejected Audrey's bid for PM on his own merit since he doesn't want his job ruined by someone with personal issues at this point. And the person with the least personal issues? CHRIS? HULK SMASH CHRIS???

And Audrey's PM as she convinces everyone, and I am relieved now that this clown idea might not be Chris'.

Craig is getting a serious marketing job...and Chris is designing the course? John's getting promotions. Interesting, I expect many volcanoes on Chris' course...with eruptions.

"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by ARnutz on 03-03-05 at 09:19 PM
OMG! Did they just go to the same party store that Brian got the viking hat in?
"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Fishercat on 03-03-05 at 09:22 PM
THAT IS WHAT THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE! A Napoleonic/Viking/Conquerer golf course! They can invite back Apprentice celebrity whores for the course! Brian! She who must not be hired! The whole bunch! Even feature The Donald on the 19th hole. Brillant!

Seriously, that would be funny if it were the same shop.

"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by ARnutz on 03-03-05 at 09:23 PM
Too bad they didn't bring back the "fired ones" to help with this task! LOL!
"Clowns"
Posted by Loree on 03-03-05 at 09:26 PM
I would never play golf if I saw those clowns. It is scary.
"RE: Clowns"
Posted by Drive My Car on 03-04-05 at 08:32 AM
I agree, Loree.
I thought it was a terrible idea, lots of children are afraid of clowns.

"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by kathliam on 03-03-05 at 09:28 PM
I'm sure the would be people lining up to hit a golf ball into the mouth of She Who Much Not Be Hired but who will eat worms.
"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Fishercat on 03-03-05 at 09:20 PM
Magna:
Big cross-advertisement with pretty much any youth sports venue on the pier. Good plan

Networth:
Costume shop?
Audrey is refusing to delegate specific responsibility...

"Audrey made one big decision...she's not going to make any decisions".

Thank you John.

"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by ARnutz on 03-03-05 at 09:22 PM
Audrey SUCKS!!! She is doing nothing!

She wants everyone else to make all of the decisions!

John says she's trying to set him up as some kind of scapegoat!

OMG!!! This is so obvious!

9:22 pm and I predict:

Net Worth loses and Audrey is FIRED!!!

Let's see if I'm right...

"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Fishercat on 03-03-05 at 09:25 PM
If Donald needs someone to delegate responsibility and just go Todd on a mission, just give me a thousand bucks for a weekend and I can do it for this dipwad.

Networth could be in some serious trouble, the edit is very weird. They are just oozing an Audrey boot this week.

I didn't think I'd be saying that my boy Chris is sounding like the sane one in the group, but as John's puppet, it works.

"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Solitaire on 03-03-05 at 09:27 PM
LAST EDITED ON 03-03-05 AT 09:29 PM (EST)

Was it just Canadian TV or was there no lesson from Donald this week? (We also didn't get any closing words on Survivor or opening credits on the Apprentice. Very bizarre)

"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by ARnutz on 03-03-05 at 09:34 PM
Instead of a lesson, what DT did was discuss "friendships" and golf. "You can hate someone at the dinner table, but when you get out on the golf course it's completely different. blah, blah..."
"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Solitaire on 03-03-05 at 09:36 PM
Oh right...it's coming back to me now, it was so boring when the Donald was talking, I must have blanked that part out.
"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Notrozer on 03-04-05 at 00:04 AM
Was it just Canadian TV or was there no lesson from Donald this week? (We also didn't get any closing words on Survivor or opening credits on the Apprentice. Very bizarre)

They Skimmped on the theme song too, not enough "Money"?

"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Fishercat on 03-03-05 at 09:29 PM
Haha, Chris is scaring the crap out of the kids in a clown suit, and he really doesn't like it.

Audrey wants John to wear his costume. And John just laid a verbal slap on her, oh man, this is brillant.

Oh man, this could be the most unintentionally hilarious episode EVER!!!

The kid looks totally freaked out! Mwhahhaha. This is brillant.

Who was the one with the tobaccy?

"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by ARnutz on 03-03-05 at 09:32 PM
Magna wins at $508, Net Worth made $304.

The prize is a trip to Trump National Golf Course.

IMO, Magna's course was much better.

"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Loree on 03-03-05 at 09:34 PM
Now do we think Audrey will bring John in the boardroom???
"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Fishercat on 03-03-05 at 09:36 PM
Absolutely. She'll say he wasn't cooprative (he wasn't, nor should he have been IMO) and he wasn't a team player. She'll prolly bring Chris in as well as John's puppet, as revenge, and in hope of getting him to go on an outburst (was he the one chewing tobacco?)
"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by ARnutz on 03-03-05 at 09:38 PM
Yep, Chris was the one! Guess he's the "addict".
"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Fishercat on 03-03-05 at 09:40 PM
She's definitely bringing John in, which John thinks is a huge mistake since he'll crush her.

Did she mention Craig?

I bet Chris is the addict, but if he's fired for chewing tobacco...well...that's pretty stupid.

"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by ARnutz on 03-03-05 at 09:36 PM
I would think so, but she's not the brightest bulb in the box.

We'll see.

He did get pretty rude with her, however he did what she asked and got his clown suit on.

"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Fishercat on 03-03-05 at 09:34 PM
No big shock. Magna's superior marketing and not-so-inept leader whooped Networth pretty much.

Magna gets golfing with The Donald and Cristie Kerr, while certain people don't get the golfing thing...I'd look just as bad.

Donald offered 1k for anyone who hit the green, I think only Bren got close.

That could be one of the most pathetic leading efforts this season.

"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by kathliam on 03-03-05 at 09:37 PM
Erin thinks TD is 'hot' because he descends from the skies from his helicopter. Watch 'Simple Life' much? She does kinda resemble Paris with a dark wig.
"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Fishercat on 03-03-05 at 09:38 PM
That's hot. Of course, his hair might cause the pollution in the sky.
"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by bongo on 03-03-05 at 09:42 PM
Just wanted to say, thanks to all of you for these updates.

my local NBC station is airing local highschool basketball(boring), and will be airing this weeks apprentice late sunday night, so I have to wait until almost monday morning to see it.

Keep it up, I want to know as much as I can.

"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by kathliam on 03-03-05 at 09:44 PM
If it's of any help, you should be able to catch a repeat on CBNC at 8PM on Friday.
"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by bongo on 03-03-05 at 09:46 PM
>If it's of any help, you
>should be able to catch
>a repeat on CBNC at
>8PM on Friday.


Yeah, I know about that, but I don't have cable, so that's not going to help me

"The PM delegated...those under her failed to do their job"
Posted by bothered on 03-03-05 at 10:38 PM
John was going to tank his role from the start. He got her fired
"The Boardroom"
Posted by Loree on 03-03-05 at 09:39 PM
This is going to be fun...
"RE: The Boardroom"
Posted by ARnutz on 03-03-05 at 09:41 PM
Audrey wants to be Angie when she grows up! LOL!

Yes this BR will be good!

"RE: The Boardroom"
Posted by Loree on 03-03-05 at 09:44 PM
LOL! Audrey is bringing Mommy into the boardroom to help her fight off big bad John.
"RE: The Boardroom"
Posted by ARnutz on 03-03-05 at 09:48 PM
I know! ... and Trump let her?!?!

Boy... I bet John will eat her alive! I'm not so sure Angie can help Audrey because Angie seems like she can be pretty objective.

The task was failed by Audrey...

gosh! this is soooo dramatic!

"Angie's 'Hello?' comment/Trump's eye roll"
Posted by smokedog on 03-04-05 at 00:18 AM
Did anyone catch this? What happened there?

I didn't really catch it, but did Angie interrupt Trump?

"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by nicalai on 03-03-05 at 09:47 PM
what is the lead time between finding out who won the task and going into the board room? because i thought audrey had some big hair going on, and now it seems like her hair was flat ironed and straight. just curious.
"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by ARnutz on 03-03-05 at 09:49 PM
I think sometimes they do the reward that night and then the bR the next day, not sure though.
"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Fishercat on 03-03-05 at 09:48 PM
Audrey should be dead in this game.

SHE'S BRINGING THREE PEOPLE IN? Wow.

Bringing Angie in for what? Support?

If I were the Donald, I'd be tempted to fire Angie and Audrey if it was her choice to come in, if not, Audrey's done. The last thing you want to do is CLEARLY bring someone in for support. He knows who's side Angie is on, it's not that hard to perceive.

Interesting note, my grandmother's name is Audray, and her best friend? Angie. It's weird.

Anyway, if you are going to bring three people in, WHY NOT BRING IN CHRIS??? He's a ticking time bomb it seems, bring him in for being an "addict" and really not designing the course that well as an excuse. Hopefully, he'll blow up and you're saved. If not, what does it hurt?

"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by ARnutz on 03-03-05 at 09:50 PM
Yeah, but Audey is not too smart.
"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Loree on 03-03-05 at 09:54 PM
I felt like Trump was firing a little girl. Audrey sat there like she was in the principal's office.
"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Fishercat on 03-03-05 at 09:54 PM
Now she's even got Angie turning against her. Angie didn't see it coming.

She's saying all three of them were on the marketing team.

Ashley didn't like the 22-year old comment

She's blaming them for doing a half-assed job. And now everyone should be fired but Tana?

No one respects Audrey. She looked shocked at the beauty doesn't do it comment. Audrey's gone. That was simple.

Too simple there.

"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by ARnutz on 03-03-05 at 09:55 PM
YES!!!!!!!!!

She's gone!

... and she took about half of the dysfunction with her.

"RE: The Apprentice #3 Episode #7 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by ARnutz on 03-03-05 at 09:59 PM
Next week;

A charity auction

and...

corporate restructuring.

"Audrey's final words"
Posted by Fishercat on 03-03-05 at 10:02 PM
The usual "great experience, didn't go my way, wish {person} would have been fired". How is being called beautiful by Trump a compliment, but by John an insult. Weird stuff. Both were saying that you were bad enough to get fired over a condescending leader without the role and a chewing tobacco addict.

Anyway, even though she has had this hard life, both parents ripped away, pretty harsh life, she still reeks of rich daddy's girl to me for some odd reason. No proof, just the aura. That is why I can't judge people well.

Anyway, glad she's gone, no real addition to the team. And if Chris lasts one more week, I think he's in the Top half of the candidates. THAT is scary.

"THis show is a joke"
Posted by bothered on 03-03-05 at 10:32 PM
This show has become a joke. I don't think Audrey is strong at all but she was exactly right. People who have tasks delegated to them are not being held responsible. John was delegated the task of promotions and did nothing. He should be accountable. If Trump delegated to Carolyn the task of promotion and Carolyn did nothing, you know Carolyn would be fired.

The show is very predictable. The PM gets fired on nearly every episode. The people who really screw up don't get fired.

Regarding the charge that Audrey did not control her team, no PM on a losing team has ever controlled their team. These PMs do not have the power necessary to control belligerent team members who are insubordinate and do nothing. They cannot fire them and they do not control their salaries (the two things in the corporate world key to power). That is Trump's fault for creating an environment in which the PM does not have any real power.

When teammembers were lazy on Apprentice 1 (remember the goofs on the goof course with Bill) or were disrespectful, they should have been fired but the PM is.

I am sick of the b.s. when people last longer than they should because Trump refuses to hold people accountable.

"RE: THis show is a joke"
Posted by seahorse on 03-03-05 at 10:56 PM
For the 6th time in 7 weeks a losing PM was fired. Only Bren survived as a losing PM and he had Michael who had basically quit in a previous task when he had immunity to being fired.

Audrey had a death wish asking to be PM after her performance last week. All three people she took in the boardroom thought she should be fired. She was in a bad situation when her team lost.

She had no leadership over her team and would not direct them on how to do their task for fear she would be blamed in the boardroom.


Handcrafted by RollDdice

"RE: THis show is a joke"
Posted by Fishercat on 03-04-05 at 00:00 AM
I think seahorse's last sentence was the key point. She did not direct them on how to do their task. Any person can delegate responsibility on a wide open task. If the main point of a project manager was to delegate responsibility, Todd would have been a great leader. I could tell person x to manage realm 1 of a project, person y to manage realm 2, etc.

When Chris and John specifically called Audrey for advice on what to do specifically, she re-delegated it to John, which sealed her fate if they lost.

How much did she do throughout the whole episode other than argue with John? I know her and her crew picked out the costumes for the gimmick of the course (clowns? Chris was a scary clown.), but what else did they do? Sure, the advertising was piss poor, I don't think many people would deny that, but that can fall on the head of the PM as well. What's more important? Clown suits or getting people to the course? If it was as bad as she said, I would think that a competent leader would go over there and re-delegate assignments and take it into her own hands.

John and Craig definitely have some blame to take and she was right to take them into the board room. However, it was just a poor job done. Team Magna dominated the pier, and although she delegated responsibility, not a single person (outside of maybe Angie) seemed to show her the respect that other leaders have received and there were no concrete plans. Magna got out and made exclusive deals that helped propel them to victory, and both John and Audrey shoulder blame for not getting anywhere near that and having to lowball for business. However, when you have anyone who is talking taking the side of John on the whole, Audrey's emotional outburst at the beginning of the episode, and the fact that John has emerged as a favorite while Audrey was a boot target prior to this episode and was viewed as a weak link, it was the firing that had to be made.

Audrey did the worst possible thing this episode: she took the PM role when she had at least two team members (Chris and John) who were not big fans of her, after an emotional outburst no less. How often is a person (in the middle of the game) flat out denied the "yay" vote of being a PM by a player who doesn't want to be PM? Who wanted a ticking time bomb to be PM?