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"Subjectivity - The Apprentice's Downfall"
Posted by mickeyvon on 03-28-06 at 09:19 AM
Shows like The Apprentice are entertaining (at times), but ultimately leave viewers aggravated due to the fact that the results are completely subjective. The results are not based on votes or scores or audience vote (which is subjective too, but at least represents the viewing audience). Instead, the results are based on the opinion of one person (The Donald). Summarizing what everyone is saying this morning, Trump's opinions are inconsistent and ego-driven, resulting in viewers scratching their heads and banging their fists when the wrong person is fired. Why should Lenny have been on Trump's chopping block? He came up with a good idea which everyone liked, he was the one who stood up unsuccessfully against the text v. voiceover, and yet Trump felt he should've been fired. Carolyn & Bill & George invariably agree, but there is no logic there. Yet, Lenny would've been eliminated. It makes the whole show bogus.

That is why The Apprentice can't compete with the other reality shows, and I think that's why its ratings are slipping.


PS Even a show like Top Model, which despite being subjective, is up to a group panel, and the editing clues the viewers onto each weekly selection process.

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"RE: Subjectivity - The Apprentice's Downfall"
Posted by Wacko Jacko on 03-28-06 at 09:22 AM
Ultimately Donald is the only one who matters. The person he hires will run an aspect of his company. Donald will be the only one working with this person. I can deal with the subjectivity. What I have a problem with is that a lot of Donald's decisions are done for ratings.
"RE: Subjectivity - The Apprentice's Downfall"
Posted by jackandjill on 03-28-06 at 09:24 AM
According to next week's previews, America at large will have a say in who's hired.

"RE: Subjectivity - The Apprentice's Downfall"
Posted by Wacko Jacko on 03-28-06 at 12:01 PM
Which probably means out of the final two Donald could give two cents who gets hired....or it is completely obvisious.
"RE: Subjectivity - The Apprentice's Downfall"
Posted by CattyChat on 03-28-06 at 12:23 PM
The vote is going to be a waste of time. Donald does what Donald wants to do at that moment. In the past he has done the opposite of what Carolyn and George had suggested to him, his supposed "eyes and ears" during the tasks -- if he doesn't listen to his henchmen who are observing most of the goings on and reporting back to him, then why would we be naive to think he would go with America's concensus.

So our voting will just be something he'll mention in passing and try to twist to prove his show is a "ratings king." Trump: "An astounding X number of votes were cast, proving that I am YUGE!" Yes, huge arse is what he really is.



Kind Creation of ARNutz

"RE: Subjectivity - The Apprentice's Downfall"
Posted by kris2pe on 03-29-06 at 01:39 AM
Its not always subjective bcoz there has to be an output in the competition especially in the challenges! Of course spin-doctors like Mark Burnett always make sure that the ppl that DT fancies will be there on the final two!
If I were the boss of the company I wouldn't want the public to choose the who they want! Coz it can easily b manipulate & will probably not merit what need to b merited & all will just b based on popularity!
You know what reality show is all about subjective? America's Next Top Model! I mean some of the girls out there are good & the pics look good. But when Tyra hates that person she is going to remove that person whether she's good or not!