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"In defense of Richmond and Birmingham"

Posted by opinionated on 05-26-06 at 01:57 PM
I just read an article on MSNBC that got me so incensed I finally had to say something. First, here's the article...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12961455/

The part that really cheesed me off:

“Taylor’s been getting so many votes. The South, they really just support the people from their small towns when they make it,” said Bellesi. “There’s a lot happening in California. People have a lot of distractions.”

Variations on this theme have appeared in other articles and on these message boards. I was born and raised in Ohio, but have lived in both Raleigh and Richmond as an adult. I am very offended by these people who seem to think that Southerners are just a bunch of dumb hicks who have nothing better to do than park themselves in front of the TV and vote for their favorite idols. Consider the possibility that, apparently unlike people in Los Angelas, the folks down here are PROUD of their hometowns and want to show the rest of the country that they stand behind their contestants. Just because Los Angelas can't, or WON'T, get it's s*** together to rally behind someone doesn't mean it's because they have such important, busy lives compared to people in Richmond or Birmingham. Maybe, just maybe, they're lazy, self-absorbed, self-important jerks. I wouldn't PRESUME to know, since I don't live there.

And by the way, neither Richmond nor Birmingham is a small town. They may not be Chicago (where I've also lived) or New York, or Los Angelas, but they aren't Checotah, Oklahoma, either. I assure you that here in Richmond we have thousands of stop-lights, not just one. We also have high-rise buildings, a bustling downtown and are THE CAPITAL of Virginia. Sheesh.

I'm going to go watch some TV and eat some Cheetos now.

P.S. I'd love to see a contenstant from NYC make it to the finals. I'd bet my last dollar that big 'ole NYC would ROCK the vote. That would teach Los Angelas a thing or two.



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"RE: In defense of Richmond and Birmingham"
Posted by mrc on 05-26-06 at 02:05 PM
I'm going to go watch some TV and eat some Cheetos now.

That should be pork rinds, not Cheetos.




"RE: In defense of Richmond and Birmingham"
Posted by opinionated on 05-26-06 at 02:08 PM
Aww, now you're making me laugh and I'm supposed to be pissed!

"RE: In defense of Richmond and Birmingham"
Posted by mrc on 05-26-06 at 02:11 PM
LAST EDITED ON 05-26-06 AT 02:12 PM (EST)

Believe me, my southern roots give me every right to poke fun.


"RE: In defense of Richmond and Birmingham"
Posted by nailbone on 05-29-06 at 11:12 AM
Have you tried the chile and lime pig skins? Or is that just a Texas thing?


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"RE: In defense of Richmond and Birmingham"
Posted by Snidget on 05-29-06 at 12:07 PM
I can get chili and lime ramen noodles here. I haven't checked the pork rinds lately, but they could probably sell them here as well.

"RE: In defense of Richmond and Birmingham"
Posted by Snidget on 05-26-06 at 02:10 PM
I never read them as slams about the South, it is true that when a hometown kid does good here (and in many other parts of the country, look at Hawaii when they had someone in Idol) that they get a lot of support.

In LA you can't take the garbage out without tripping over someone famous, so I don't think they pay attention to those sorts of things the way people in other states do.

I'm sure if it were North Dakota and Maine that had finalists instead of the South with the third one from California you'd see the exact same comments.


"RE: In defense of Richmond and Birmingham"
Posted by geg6 on 05-26-06 at 02:13 PM
Well, I don't live in any of those places. So I have no ax to grind.

I think there is some merit to the argument that it is a much bigger deal to the people in Birmingham and Richmond than it is in LA. Not because people are any busier there, however.

I'd venture to say that LA is an industry town, like my city used to be when big steel still existed. We never thought twice about how the mills could light up the sky or seeing red hot slag pouring down a hillside. But outsiders were mighty impressed because it was out of the norm for them. LA's industry is entertainment and, as such, I would venture to say that most people there are pretty blase about getting too excited about one.more.young.and.talented nobody competing for a contract. It happens there every minute of the day. Not that big a deal to them, especially if they also happen to be young and talented and may compete with that person for a job. It's just not a unique thing to them.

So you are also not being fair because you aren't taking into account that difference between LA and everywhere else.


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And, honestly? I think New Yorkers would also be pretty blase about it, too, for many of the same reasons Angelenos are.


"RE: In defense of Richmond and Birmingham"
Posted by PagongRatEater on 05-26-06 at 03:36 PM
That doesn't explain why they don't care about their sports teams, though. Maybe people from LA just think that they are above everything?


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"RE: In defense of Richmond and Birmingham"
Posted by PagongRatEater on 05-26-06 at 03:33 PM
What's really stupid about this is that hometown voting really makes up a small percentage of the overall vote.

Did people from Alabama back Taylor overwhelmingly? Of course but BFD - the whole state has like 1/3 of LA's population...complacent or not that's a huge advantage.

Taylor was the most popular choice from the very beginning. He unquestionably had the best finale performance. They didn't hype a close vote at all. I would pretty much guarantee that he was the top vote getter in EVERY regions, so why single out the South?

Rail against the backwoods all you want, you elitist snobs. The fact is Taylor would have won this competition regardless of where the votes were cast.


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"RE: In defense of Richmond and Birmingham"
Posted by opinionated on 05-26-06 at 04:06 PM
Thank you! Dontcha just love the idea that being from a more populated area puts you at a disadvantage? People will come up with anything when their horse doesn't win.

"RE: In defense of Richmond and Birmingham"
Posted by zazzy on 05-28-06 at 04:41 PM
LAST EDITED ON 05-28-06 AT 04:47 PM (EST)

Hey opinionated, I can understand your being ticked off..but this should make you feel better:

--on another board I read about Kat's finale crowd--the one they showed at the beginning of the results show--but never went back to--had very few people as compared to the thousands that turned out for Taylor. They cited an article from tvgasm (website)--if I can find I will post. The article had pics from b4 and during the show, showing how small the crowd was. McPhee's grandparents were there as was Tamyra and not that many others. Some hard core fans.

(And yes, I know that Kat has fans all over the country and yes, I know that she would not have been there if she had not beaten Chris that week, but wow! what a bad turnout for her.)

Also, if the vote were AT ALL close, AI would be playing that up. The vote was not close, not at all.

Right now the media is being its usual, crusty, negative, harsh self and Taylor, his hometown, anything related are all targets. Just wait till he rocks with his album and sells more than they ever imagined. Then they can all eat their petty words.

Edited to add the tvgasm.com link: http://www.tvgasm.com/archives/american_idol/002192.php


"RE: In defense of Richmond and Birmingham"
Posted by nailbone on 05-29-06 at 11:15 AM
And remember the difference in the turnout for the "hometown visits" of the final three. Taylor and Elliot got to meet the governors and have parades and stuff, while poor Kat got to go back to her high school gym to a crowd of a few hundred.


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