LOL about Amber. I have completely changed my mind about her. I liked her at first but now she freaks me out. I was embarrassed for her last night.

I'm surprised Liz was chosen. That poor girl is going to break down big time one of these days. It looked like it took all her willpower to keep herself from crying during the rose ceremony.

I do not like Tina from TN. I think it was her that was rolling her eyes at the other girls hugging Alex during the rose ceremony.

I was very surprised Christina C got a rose, after Alex talked about how he didn't like her approach to him. If I were Alex, I would have been running for the hills after their one-on-one time.

I like Ann-Michelle. She's very cute.

What a painful time it is watching the girls during the rose ceremony. I would never put myself in that position.

If it weren't for STRESS, I'd have no energy at all

Ya, Schnookie. We were saying the same thing about Liz. Didn't know if she was going to faint or throw up. She is that cheerleader we all knew from high school who is all big smiles one minute and all neurosis the next. She even looks like a little h.s. cheerleader.

One thing that has struck me is how Andrew hasn't seemed to really find out much about the girls or really spent much time in coversation with them, but there are still the snippets where they are saying things like, "I'm falling for him" or "I can see myself as Mrs. Firestone." You get the feeling some of them would say "I can see myself as Mrs. Quasimodo" if he was the bachelor.

"Mrs. Quasimodo" LOL

When they showed Christina C saying that she could see herself as Mrs. Firestone, that clinched it for me. It's all about his money now that they know who he is (no big surprise). I was sooooooooooo sure she wouldn't get a rose.

If it weren't for STRESS, I'd have no energy at all

Poor Liz is going to pass out if she doesn't get a rose. Someone should please have the paramedics standing by.

If you don't have time to do it right the first time, when are you going to find time to do it again? - Anonymous

Pre-season I picked Amber to be the final Bachelorette, but based on last night's editing I now think Liz will be the one. Pick your finalist on this thread: http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/DCForumID42/193.shtml#4

The editors went out of their way to show every swallow of champagne Amber drank, and made a big deal out of her getting drunk and throwing up. If she were the final one, I think this would have been glossed over instead of featured.

Liz seemed to be one of the only people asking Andrew about himself on the Spa date like she really wanted to get to know him. The editors also seemed to emphasize Liz's caring side showing Liz being sad that Christine was going, and reinforced that Liz is emotionally involved with Andrew because she looked like a basket case when there was one rose left. The editing also showed Jen making fun of the Bachelor process last week, so I think the editing points to Liz. We'll see what happens.

I just can't see Liz surviving to the final episode -- Andrew has shown his shallowness by slobbering all over Amber-the-Lush and other ladies and the previews show there's a lot more to come with Amber (while Liz doesn't seem to be the major kissing type). I know we already had a non-kisser (Zora) win in Joe Millionaire, but this is the Bachelor.

Liz can only cry so much before Andrew says "enough!" and does anyone look so much more out of place amongst the final ten than Liz does with her appearance? She could flood Niagara Falls with her tears!

Heidi: My biggest assets to the tribe are my athletic skills and my intelligence. I've lost one of them.
Jiffy: Which one?

I was shocked at Amber also, Smiley. Of course, his family does make their living now by selling booze, so I guess it wouldn't be that big a deal to him that she gets schnockered at the drop of a hat. (Or maybe he's already planning on getting her drunk and having a sure thing on the private date - LOL).

When I look at Amber I keep getting a picture of Glenn Close in my head. She looks like she could turn psycho in the blink of an eye. That one would scare me if I ran up on her in a bar.

And Elizabeth. She was absolutely shocked. She thought she was in for sure.

And Andrew seemed actually shaken when Christina told him 'thanks, but no thanks.' I think this house is way more full of flakes than last season, Andrew included. Aaron was a media whore, I'm not sure just what Andrew is. He seems like the shy little rich boy with not a lot of self-confidence. Odd dynamics in this group for sure.

I just can't believe that Andrew with his background would include Amber in the final 10 listings. It's got to be the producers writing the script at this point. Trying to keep the interest going and the ratings high for the next show. Anytime a young girl that age get trashed to that extent with just 1 or 2 drinks that we know about. I just cn't believe that Andrew would pick Amber. I refused to believe he is that shallow at this point of the game.

LAST EDITED ON 04-10-03 AT 06:54 PM (EST)

>what is she going to be like when they are on
>their solo date?

Probably like this:

And this might be her as well:

Amber's not going anywhere for a while (and likely the biggest proof of how shallow Andrew must be)

Btw, anyone know if this happens next week -- otherwise Amber's cousin Tina also survives another round (which given her otherwise absense from the previews, I don't think is the case)

Unfortunately, I missed the airing of this episode... does anyone know if they going to re-air it? Thanks,

Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

You may want to check ABC Family Channel. I think they re-air it later in the week or early the following week, but I'm not sure about days/times.

If you don't have time to do it right the first time, when are you going to find time to do it again? - Anonymous

>You may want to check ABC Family Channel. I think
>they re-air it later in the week or early the
>following week, but I'm not sure about days/times.

There's a marathon of the first three episodes airing on Sunday the 13th from 8-11PM ET on ABC Family

-SB

Thanks all for the replies and info.

Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

Any vidcaps from the previews for the 4/16 episode? Since I taped it to the summary I watched the preview a few times, trying to get some clues.

The only things that caught my eye were Kirsten saying something about people being "freaking shallow." I honestly think that with all of the gossip in the house about the ex-boyfriend, she might not make the cut next week.

And there was also a quick clip of Liz giving someone a hug (couldn't see the face), and it looked like Liz had a rose in her hand. Can anyone else verify that?

And I'm in agreement, it looks like Amber goes a lot further that I would like her to, although she could make it interesting to watch (or embarassing for herself.)