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"Bachelor Ben 2nd episode"
Posted by Round Robin on 01-10-12 at 02:42 AM
I hope in time Jenna sees tonight's elimination as the act of mercy that it really was. An inarticulate, awkward, emotionally damaged woman like Jenna simply cannot compete in a sea of overaggressive, hypercompetitive, heartless b1tches, and it was an act of mercy by Ben to get her out of that house and away from the merciess and heartless cattiness that these witches practice. Jenna needs to find herself a gentle man with a kind heart to love her, not compete with a squadron of backstabbers in a public forum.
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"RE: Bachelor Ben 2nd episode"
Posted by samboohoo on 01-10-12 at 09:55 AM
I've only gotten up to the point where he finds her crying in the bed, but I know she got eliminated. I agree with you on this one. I'm not sure I would label her as psycho, but I do think there are definitely some issues there. Wow.

The rest of them are quite interesting. I think the only one I actually like is Kacie B. She is the only one who seems normal.


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"RE: Bachelor Ben 2nd episode"
Posted by Estee on 01-10-12 at 11:00 AM
The rest of them are quite interesting.

Southerner.

"RE: Bachelor Ben 2nd episode"
Posted by samboohoo on 01-10-12 at 12:46 PM
*sips sweetened ice tea*

Thank you!


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"RE: Bachelor Ben 2nd episode"
Posted by Loree on 01-10-12 at 10:28 PM
Jenna has appeared drunk in both episodes. I don't think she is very articulate to begin with. But add alcohol and she becomes completely crazy. Then she threw the blanket on the lantern and Ben had to rescue it from starting on fire.
"RE: Bachelor Ben 2nd episode"
Posted by Tummy on 01-10-12 at 11:24 AM
I have to say, watching Ben in the play made me see why he was picked as the Bachelor. I kind of liked him!

In last week's preview of the season it seemed like the red-headed Okie girl goes far. Watching her last night I'm not sure why.

I too liked Kacie and I still like Jamie although she didn't get much face time.

"RE: Bachelor Ben 2nd episode"
Posted by Pretty_Kitty on 01-10-12 at 12:21 PM
Jamie has not had 1 confessional. This irks me. Maybe she's not a drama queen so she gets overlooked.

If anyone wants spoilers Reality Steve has them posted for the whole season.

"RE: Bachelor Ben 2nd episode"
Posted by samboohoo on 01-10-12 at 12:48 PM
Read!

His recaps are usually pretty funny.


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"RE: Bachelor Ben 2nd episode"
Posted by Max Headroom on 01-10-12 at 12:30 PM
The whole play segment of the show was an instant fast-forward for me. Thank goodness for DVRs! For that matter, the entire show should be an instant fast-forward. Why do I watch such drivel?

I agree, Kacie B seems like a very likeable girl. Most of the others? Not so much.

One other random observation: This is the first Bachelor season I've watched in HD, and it's astounding how much makeup the women are wearing. I know makeup is standard issue for TV personalities, but these women are taking it to an extreme.

"RE: Bachelor Ben 2nd episode"
Posted by samboohoo on 01-10-12 at 12:47 PM
Agree about the makeup. And isn't it amazing the differences between the women made up and not made up.


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"RE: Bachelor Ben 2nd episode"
Posted by Round Robin on 01-10-12 at 04:42 PM
I forget which girl it was, but on one of them last night the makeup was so obvious it was ridiculous, and I was watching on a 31 year old non-HD TV. I can only imagine how bad that must have looked in HD.
"Major Q. of the Night"
Posted by mrc on 01-10-12 at 01:09 PM
Why was Ben humping his dog?

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"RE: Major Q. of the Night"
Posted by Estee on 01-10-12 at 01:41 PM
Because when your choices are either one of the uberbitches chosen for faux drama max-out (and no romance) or the simple affection of your dog, bestiality starts to sound like the sane option?
"RE: Major Q. of the Night"
Posted by mrc on 01-10-12 at 01:49 PM
And we have a winner!

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"Ratings note."
Posted by Estee on 01-10-12 at 02:45 PM
Currently down by about 17%.

Maybe part of the viewership is finally starting to realize the horrible track record is deliberately enforced.

"RE: Ratings note."
Posted by samboohoo on 01-10-12 at 03:20 PM
Looking at this season for pure entertainment only. There's action, adventure, drama, comedy, and horror all rolled into one show. What's not to love.


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"RE: Ratings note."
Posted by Estee on 01-10-12 at 05:11 PM
Because what there's not -- is love?
"RE: Ratings note."
Posted by Max Headroom on 01-10-12 at 05:31 PM
You forgot the cheesiness. Lots and lots of cheesiness.
"RE: Ratings note."
Posted by Round Robin on 01-10-12 at 04:47 PM
I don't think the horrible track record is deliberately enforced. I just think they don't give a $hit about it. All they give a $hit about is ratings, ratings, ratings, and enough viewers are starting to see through the bull$hit that their precious ratings are starting to take a hit.
"RE: Ratings note."
Posted by Estee on 01-10-12 at 05:10 PM
I'll rephrase: an ugly breakup gets more tabloid headlines than a happy ending, and as long as that's the forever-case, the former steadily becomes what the show is aiming for. Plenty of viewers watch this thing in the hopes of seeing Tru Luv bloom, but some of those are starting to figure out that, as noted, all the producers want is Sharpened Claws Out. And as they finally spot the puppeteer's strings and realize they've been manipulated all along -- they leave.
"RE: Ratings note."
Posted by JoeGazillionaire on 01-10-12 at 10:11 PM
It might just be that many female viewers aren't into Ben. If they had gotten a really hot guy with a hot job and lots of money...then the female viewership would be up. On the flip side, I bet the male viewership is up for this season.
"RE: Bachelor Ben 2nd episode"
Posted by Loree on 01-10-12 at 10:35 PM
Does Sonoma just die at night? There was nobody around. It was like a ghost town with no other people on the street or in the shop except the planted twosome that had to rush up to Ben. Then we get the crazy cop chase and sirens in the exit. It did appear odd.

Ben is thinking with little ben. I laughed when he made a big anouncement that Blakely got the rose because of the great conversations they had. She had her tongue down his throat.

And why does he think Courtney is so attractive. I didn't even think she was the best looking in the room. I suppose if you put "model" before your name it gets little ben excited. He was being played by her and it was hilarious. Even the dog seemed to pick up on it.

"RE: Bachelor Ben 2nd episode"
Posted by JoeGazillionaire on 01-10-12 at 11:38 PM
I'ts just my opinion, but I think Courtney is pretty hot and Jenna would be too if you could look past the hysterics.... It's just that Courtney behaves pretty badly...so you're right that Ben is thinking with little Ben. If he wasn't the Bachelor, I don't think most of these girls would be looking at him. They seem to be more attractive than him physically.
"RE: Bachelor Ben 2nd episode"
Posted by mrc on 01-11-12 at 11:44 AM
Never been to Sonoma, but I would bet the producers shut down the area.

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"RE: Bachelor Ben 2nd episode"
Posted by jbug on 01-11-12 at 12:00 PM
I have a cousin in FL who has an old college friend who lives in Sonoma; she was an extra in a scene in town. Kelly says she doesn't watch this but did just to see her friend. I think she said it was in episode 1.

I'm not watching this season at all.

"RE: Bachelor Ben 2nd episode"
Posted by MTW1961 on 01-11-12 at 09:02 PM
Actually, the town was hopping by Sonoma standards!

Mt grandmother lived in Sonoma about a block from the town Plaza where a lot of the date with Kacie was filmed. In fact, her house is now a B&B. It's an awesome place to live and raise a family.



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"RE: Bachelor Ben 2nd episode"
Posted by dangerkitty on 01-12-12 at 07:48 PM
Hi, I live in Sonoma! This is the first time I watched the Bachelor; I just was curious to see how they presented the town and who I might know in the cameos.

They basically filmed in the middle of the night, AND shut down the square for even the few cars that might have come through. I could tell by the way things looked that it had to be past midnight, and a friend of mine works at the restaurant they ate at. She left at 11 pm and they hadn't even start filming there yet, and then spent hours to get the short bit they showed. So romantic, yes? When she left, she had to wait in her parked car before she could go because that is when they were walking down the street with the baton, toward the restaurant. No one was allowed to drive in or out during that bit.

Don't know what was going on with all the cop cars, but the police station is right up around the corner from where they were eating. Someone must have had an expired plate.

And yeah, it's great place to live. Not a bustling city by any means, but the square is always busy during the evenings. After midnight, not so much.

>Does Sonoma just die at night?
> There was nobody around.
> It was like a
>ghost town with no other
>people on the street or
>in the shop except the
>planted twosome that had to
>rush up to Ben.

"One other quick note"
Posted by samboohoo on 01-11-12 at 10:09 AM
Did anyone else notice the time on the clock when Ben found Jenna crying in bed? 2:05. As in 2:05 a.m. I don't know about anyone else in here, but if I'm plied with alcohol and still awake at 2:05 a.m., I might be a little crazy too.


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"RE: One other quick note"
Posted by mrc on 01-11-12 at 11:43 AM
I noticed. There was a clock on the kitchen range that said 11:59 at one point.

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"Blakeley."
Posted by Max Headroom on 01-11-12 at 05:02 PM
Now that I've finally watched the rest of the episode, I've got Blakeley figured out. And oddly enough, I feel sorry for her.

She's 34, surely one of the oldest women in the cast, and competing against equally attractive women who are up to a decade younger than her. Her job is listed as "VIP Cocktail Waitress", which is a career track to nowhere and doesn't stack up against the PhD students, accountants, etc., also in the cast. She probably feels like a loser at love, and compared to the younger women, her biological clock is also ticking.

She desperately wants something better. While this doesn't condone her boorish interruptions of other women trying to have private time with Ben, it does highlight her insecurity, which we saw firsthand when Ben found her curled up in a ball in the luggage room. She's aggressively going after what she wants, but she doesn't really know how to do it effectively.

Despite the edit she's been getting, I'm rooting for Blakeley.


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"RE: Blakeley."
Posted by Belle Book on 01-11-12 at 06:17 PM
You might have something there -- maybe she's going after what she wants because she wants something better than what she has but is trying too hard because of insecurity and that's what's got the other women mad at her. If that's the case, I feel sorry for her too.


"RE: Blakeley."
Posted by MTW1961 on 01-11-12 at 09:04 PM
I'm not rooting for Blakely. She seems very insecure and in over her head. I think she will be good for a breakdown later, but I can't see her lasting until the end.



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"RE: Blakeley."
Posted by samboohoo on 01-12-12 at 12:12 PM
I think she wants something bigger and better as well, but I think she's on the show just for recognition. Her little crying spell in the suitcase room had no real tears. Drama queeen just wanting attention. It worked.


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"RE: Bachelor Ben 2nd episode"
Posted by MTW1961 on 01-11-12 at 09:07 PM
I like Kacie B, Jennifer (is she the red-headed accountant?), and Jamie, so far. Ultimately, I'm hoping he chooses Courtney, and she predictably turns him down when he proposes. Either that, or we find out on After the Final Rose that she has broken up with him just before the finale aired. She pretty much laid out her history during their date - things start out good, then she gets bored.




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