Jake and Vienna are both such two-faced liars, I think they deserve each other. How Kasey fell in love with such an argumentative, overemotional BEYATCH is beyond me. Vienna is so much like Rachel from Big Brother that it ain't even funny. And most of the rest of those people are so phony I don't know how the f@#! they can stand each other. Most of them are either greedy for money or they're DAW's or both. I'm just watching to root against Jake and Vienna. Hopefully Jake goes out by Vienna's hand then she goes out by Gia's hand. Would serve them right.

From a review I just read:

The duo scurries off to a private room where Vienna strips off her clothes, dons a black bar, and climbs into bed with Kasey. What we witness next can best be described by a line from Steel Magnolias: "Looks like two pigs fightin' under a blanket." File under: Things I Didn't Need to See.

Not sure what time this scene was shown, but with 7-year old DD downstairs and up later than usual during the summer, I'd probably have to wait to see it after it was recorded.

I saw the part with Vienna wearing the black bar as she climbed in bed with Kasey. I just thought it was funny because you could see her bra straps. She wasn't naked. But they wanted us to think she was. So they covered her with the black bar.

I watched till after the comp that Jake won; and watched Vienna blast Casey. She is a piece of work. I'll watch the rest later - so I don't know yet who got kicked off.
If all the others are smart, they'll get rid of at least one of each of the pairs asap.

Casey keeps claiming to be such a stand up, honest guy. How could he fall for her I don't understand.
Did you catch when in the hot tub she said "we agreed not to fight on camera"?
LOL So all is not peaches & cream in the relationship; apparently they fight enough that they had to agree not to?

I was rooting for Jake. I know he is a big a$$, but Vienna asked for and got what she went looking for the first time.
Gia has her pegged; a big #1 DAW if there ever was one.

*puke*

Yes, I did catch that comment about fighting on camera. I can't really stomach either of them anymore (ironically since Jake has great abs). But I think she is actually the worst of the two.

There is absolutely not one thing about her that is attractive. Not one.

Samboobree, brought to life by Arkie

okay, so I'll admit with you that the abs are what swings me to Jake's side of this fiasco.

I think I could triple the ratings for Famous Food by linking to a clip of Jake (shirtless at the time) demolishing furniture with a sledgehammer.

So I won't.

I found this fairly entertaining. Normally, I wouldn't be caught dead watching any of these shows, but since Jake was on DWTS and I knew of him and the drama with Vienna, I wanted to see what would happen.

I have always liked Jake. I think he is genuinely sincere. I never could understand his attraction to Vienna. She isn't pretty to me at all. Those buggy, bulging eyes and that mouth full of teeth! Ick. And I wouldn't trust her for a minute.

I was very disappointed when Jake gave Vienna the rose. Stupid. But, I do believe he did it for the best of reasons, not to be manipulative.

I don't know if the show will hold my attention. We'll see.

I liked Vienna's hair cut/style; that is all.

I kept looking at her nose trying to see if I could tell a difference.

> I liked Vienna's hair cut/style;
>that is all.
>
>I kept looking at her nose
>trying to see if I
>could tell a difference.

I believe her nose job has recently happened; so it won't show up until the finale.

I watched it all too. Now I don't think Jake is the "Boy Scout" he wants us all to believe, but I certainly like him better than Vienna. She is as vile as ever.

Kasey was annoying on the Bachelor, but now I just feel sorry for him. Loved the preview where he confesses that she complained so much about Jake being a fame whore, but in reality she's the biggest one of the bunch!

The theme of this season is easy to see: Make sure everyone sees Vienna as a Bitch. That little montage where Jake had a confessional saying he was happy at having closure while Vienna laughed at his idiocy before jumping onto bed with Kasey was meant for the audiance members that thought he was the monster. ABC certainly chose Jake's side of the fight.

I don't care about that storyline because I only watch for the beautiful women. Gia is amazing despite the fake boobs. Even if she has quite ordinary features, the attraction for Vienna is simple to understand: Great ass and boobs. Ella looked classy but the one that surprised me the most was Jackie: Those legs in the little black dress that she wore on the date? Yumm!

As for strategy... They're all dumb but I've got to say Jake was the worst. If I followed correctly, it seems to me that Vienna controls the majority of the men's votes while Gia controls the majority of the women's votes. Quite a dilemma for Gia since she has to worry about the men's votes.

Holly is impressed by the big words Blake uses. I don't remember him saying any big words to her. It obviously didn't take much to impress her.

I think it is the Let's try and save Jake's reputation show. Who paid that little girl to run up to Jake on the street crying? Oh yes, he is such a big star. He has been on enough reality shows to be the biggest DAW in the house this season. Then we are shown his bad attempt at acting when he pretends to miss Vienna and be the bigger person about their breakup.

I did laugh at Jake and Gia both discussing how they were going to get Kasey off. My mind was going other places.

Too bad Rated R had to leave so early. At least he gave a few digs at the others that made me laugh.

Masked Jeff at the end was one of the funnier moments. Too bad they didn't have him vacuuming in the middle of the night waking everyone up.

Mom would choose #1 -- and she did. I'd probably choose #2 -- I think. Personal waterboarding doesn't appeal to me much. Oddly enough, Hell's Kitchen appeals to me more than #1.

Well, there's the ultimate #3 way out, but let's not consider such drastic measures.

Anybody else notice how mighty white it all is? What's up with that? Come to think of it, have all the Bachelor/Bachelorette shows had a prominent lack of diversity?

I noticed - & wondered.

or how fit & buff they all are?
I didn't watch all but I did see a few episodes of the one show (don't remember name or network) that had a heavy guy as the bachelor & "big-boned" women for him to choose from.
Guess that one wasn't popular 'cause the women weren't as appealing in bikinis?

Well, I guess they've never claimed that they're not shallow! It may be required.

LAST EDITED ON 08-14-11 AT 10:42 AM (EST)

My internet connection is finally UP AND RUNNING again. Whew!

Wellllll, that was an entertaining 3 hours! I didn't start watching Bach until after Jake and Vienna's season, so I was very curious. Ok, Jake's not as good looking as I thought he was. He's not bad, though. He must've been photogenic in those still shots on the ads from his season. Vienna? Not very good looking. As I said, I didn't see their season. Why did he pick HER? He certainly didn't appear to be that snake that people say he is. Maybe he changed since his season. He certainly tried to be a stand up guy, politely approaching Kasey and later giving Vienna the rose.

ETA: Kasey's a stand-up guy, too, for saying that there are always two sides to every story. SO true, folks!

Alli- she reminds me of Deanna (looks-wise). Take away the hair and make-up jobs and their looks are just meh. Those two tombstones for front teeth she has - eek. Alli's personality? ok I guess, but kinda dull. She was the best pick to be booted off.

That other guy - the fuggly one who was booted off - who's he? What season is he from? Not impressed. Best to get rid of him.

Ames and Jackie - great match up. Good luck, kids! I liked you both from Ashley's and Brad's seasons.

Bringing back Jeff the masked guy at the end was great. LOL'd at that. He was a good sport to agree to that. I wonder what his pay check was for that.

I wonder what his pay check was for that.

Pay? ABC? Reality show? Harrison?

*giggle fit*

Oh, come on. Masked Man didn't do that for free!

LAST EDITED ON 08-17-11 AT 07:37 AM (EST)

Before I answer some of Ants' questions can I just say that I'm sick and tired of the Kasey/Vienna fiasco! More in a bit.

Why did he pick HER?

I watched Jake's season and NO ONE could figure out what he saw in her. Most people were hoping that he picked Tenley. She's not attractive, she's manipulative and she's the ultimate DAW. I think she manipulated him into picking her so that she could get all the media attention. I've always liked Jake ever since he came back to tell Jillian that Wes had a girlfriend back home. I don't think he's perfect by any means but he's a way better person than Vienna. I know that the producers can create impressions with editing but no one can put words in someone's mouth and Vienna's mouth showed what a cruel, selfish, overly dramatic b!tch she is.

Kasey's a stand-up guy, too, for saying that there are always two sides to every story

I thought that was really fair of Kasey to say that but after last night's episode I saw the cruel side of him. He's turned into a egomaniac. I thought he was a fruitcake on Ali's season and he gives me the creeps. My impressions were right on target based upon his picking the unstable, drama queen that is Vienna.

That other guy - the fuggly one who was booted off - who's he? What season is he from? Not impressed. Best to get rid of him

He's Justin "Rated R" and he was on Ali's season. He wore a Rated R tshirt under his suit the first night and showed it to Ali when they were alone. He had a broken foot when he came on the show and walked to Ali's house on crutches taking up time that should have gone to the guy she had a date with. Later in the season Ali found out that he had a girlfriend and she tried to confront him and he wussied out. The camera man followed him as he trampled throught the bushes trying to get away from Ali. He's worthless and showed his true colors as he went to the limo.

And finally, I think the other people are starting to see what aholes Kasey and Vienna are. Her true colors are coming out and I liked it when Jake said he wasn't going to do anything and let her hang herself.

edited to change Ali to Jillian regarding the Wes situation.

Thanks for the low down.

I didn't see Kasey's season, but I think it's just a matter of him being P-whipped by Vienna. He might not be a bad guy - we've all seen nice guys who get sucked in by some controlling b----. I've seen nice looking guys (Kasey's better looking than Vienna) who get sucked in by b----s who aren't even good looking. I mean, if it's a pretty girl, at least you can see how a guy gets sucked in. When it's a nice looking guy and a girl who just isn't good looking and he gets P-whipped, it just makes you want to walk up to a wall and bang your head against it.

1. The Jake-Vienna show is getting old.

2. Kasey is a real tool.

3. Blake is also a real tool.

4. Melissa is batsh*t crazy.

5. Gia is a fame whore.

6. Ames has my heart. How romantic! *le sigh*

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