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"What does the Jury KNOW?"

Posted by Canada Girl on 12-07-01 at 12:54 PM
I'm sure this has been discussed in the past, but I wasn't around, so help me out. Does the jury get any information about what happens at the camp after they leave? Do they get to see raw footage, hear comments, get summaries, discuss with other jury members? I understand that they are sequestered from the pre-jury people, but are they from each other?

Thanks for the info in advance!


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"RE: What does the Jury KNOW?"
Posted by MikeD on 12-07-01 at 12:58 PM
I doubt it, but I'm sure they talk to the other jury members as they are voted off about what happened.

"RE: What does the Jury KNOW?"
Posted by zzz on 12-07-01 at 01:08 PM
I believe the only information they formally get is from the TCs that they attend. Remember that TCs are a lot longer than we ever see, so they get a pretty good idea of what is going on. Of course, I also assume that as new jurors are added, they fill in some details for the other jurors.

"RE: What does the Jury KNOW?"
Posted by SurvivorBlows on 12-07-01 at 01:21 PM
The juries do not see any video, etc. from camp.

They only get to see what they see during the 2-3 hours of the TC filming (although how close they are to the remaining survivors during this time is unclear.)

What the jury does get to do is "compare notes" during all those days out of the game... assuming they opt to hang out together. Of course since they have to be back the the TC every third day, there's only so far they can travel during those days off.

-SB


"RE: What does the Jury KNOW?"
Posted by Canada Girl on 12-07-01 at 02:12 PM
Thanks guys! That's very helpful.

Wouldn't a Survivor outtakes be great. I'd love to see the half hour of hell the tribes have as they wait for Jeff to tally the votes, or see what the booted people say to each other.


"RE: What does the Jury KNOW?"
Posted by petepan on 12-07-01 at 02:09 PM
On the Early Show this morning Kelly mentioned she didn't know until last night that Brandon was the one that voted for her. If the bootees are allowed to "talk amongst themselves" about what happened after they were kicked out, wouldn't Kelly have found out that Brandon was the idiot, I mean individual, that voted for her?


"RE: What does the Jury KNOW?"
Posted by Loree on 12-07-01 at 02:33 PM
I think this might point to being a thought that Brandon is not in the final 2. If Brandon made the final 2 I would suspect that someone wanting his opposition to win would inform Kelly that Brandon had voted for her. So she would be upset with Brandon and not vote for him to win the million. But if he never makes it that far there may be no reason to ever tell her. Afterall Lex, Ethan, Tom and MamaKim voted for her too. And they were suppose to be her original alliance. Brandon didn't really ever have any deal with her so he wasn't really betraying Kelly.

"RE: What does the Jury KNOW?"
Posted by gemstone on 12-08-01 at 07:02 PM
They are not allowed to talk about what happened in the game or what led to the booties expulsion, etc., according to Kelly.

"RE: What does the Jury KNOW?"
Posted by zzz on 12-08-01 at 07:36 PM
>They are not allowed to talk
>about what happened in the
>game or what led to
>the booties expulsion, etc., according
>to Kelly.

I have read a few reports of things Kelly has said (e.g., Early Show, Chat) but have not heard this statement reported before. Could you please give me a link to your source?


"RE: What does the Jury KNOW?"
Posted by Rose Red on 12-09-01 at 01:40 AM
I haven't heard this before either. I find it soooo hard to believe that they discuss NOTHING about the show with the other jury members like they were on a REAL sequestered jury. Or is it that they are not allowed to discuss their VOTES at the end with the other members? I can't imagine being stuck at the Hotel Toast for three days at time for WEEKS and not being able to talk about the one thing you have in common with all these people, which is what you just went through, i.e., HELL!
And now all those bugs! It's gone from being an Agatha Christie mystery to a Shakespearean tragedy to THE BIBLE! The plague of the locusts!

"RE: What does the Jury KNOW?"
Posted by gemstone on 12-09-01 at 03:11 AM
Well I'm sure may slip but Kelly said she didn't know who voted for her for a long time.

Link from another board which has some interesting interviews from Clarence, Lindsey and Kelly

http://maui1.to/~survivor


"RE: What does the Jury KNOW?"
Posted by zzz on 12-09-01 at 01:44 PM
The fact that people chose not to tell Kelly certain things does not mean they were prevented by the rules from telling her. How could the producers even monitor this kind of conversation?

In S1, non-jury members apparently tried to influence jury members, so they now sequestor jury members from non-jury members. I just don't see how they can have a rule that limits what the jury members can say to each other.


"RE: What does the Jury KNOW?"
Posted by gemstone on 12-09-01 at 01:55 PM
On S2, Jeff asked if they had talked amongst themselves and they all replied, "No".

Why can they not have this rule? Why would this be any different then telling real jury members not to talk or read anything about the case? Real jurors are not monitored.

Kelly says in the interview they are "not allowed to talk about it."

Why would she say this if they could talk about it?


"RE: What does the Jury KNOW?"
Posted by zzz on 12-10-01 at 10:52 AM
OK--I finally got your linked site to download and play Kelly's quote. That is very interesting that she says the jury members are not allowed to talk about what happened to them while they were in the game. This rule, if Kelly is telling the truth (which I guess I have to assume she is), would explain why she would not know certain information. This quote also makes her comments about things that she learned only just before coming home as having NO spoiler information.

Thank you for this link. I am surprised this information has not been more widely spread.

I think that this may answer the question--what does the jury know?

They know what they saw while in the game and they know what they see while they are at each TC. That may be it. It looks like they get NO information from each other.


"RE: What does the Jury KNOW?"
Posted by drich61 on 12-09-01 at 03:07 PM
>How could
>the producers even monitor this
>kind of conversation?
>I
>just don't see how they
>can have a rule that
>limits what the jury members
>can say to each other.


Kelly clearly says in that clip from the link above that they are not allowed to talk about what lead up to their expultion or what happened in those 3 days. Why is it so hard to believe that the producers can't control this here, but that they can stop them from talking to prejury members about future boot orders. So that Clarence can have no clue if Brandon has furtunes coming.



"RE: What does the Jury KNOW?"
Posted by katem on 12-09-01 at 02:32 PM
I believe she actually said something to the fact that she did not know it was Teresa that had voted for Lex (that T was the snake) until just before she left Africa.