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"24 Season Premier Sunday 1/9 & Monday 1/10"

Posted by blacknwhitedog on 01-05-05 at 06:04 PM
LAST EDITED ON 01-11-05 AT 10:52 AM (EST)

I thought I would compile some stuff here about the upcoming 24 season 4 on FOX. Then we can discuss the season premier episodes here.

Fox site http://www.fox.com/24/
Sunday 1/9
18 MONTHS OUT OF CTU, JACK SUDDENLY GOES BACK
WHEN A COMMUTER TRAIN EXPLODES
IN PART 1 OF THE SPECIAL TWO-DAY, FOUR-HOUR “24”
SEASON PREMIERE EVENT SUNDAY, JANUARY 9, ON FOX

Eighteen months after the conclusion of Season 3, CTU has a new leader, Erin Driscoll, a steely government agent who made firing Jack one of her first priorities. After the explosion of a commuter train, Jack, who is now working for Secretary of Defense James Heller and also is romantically involved with Heller’s married daughter, Audrey Raines, suddenly finds himself heading back to CTU for a meeting with Driscoll in Part 1 of the special four-hour season premiere of 24, “Day 4: 7:00 AM-8:00 AM” and “Day 4: 8:00 AM-9:00 AM” Sunday, Jan. 9 (8:00-10:00 PM ET/PT) on FOX.

Monday 1/10
JACK CREATES A HOSTAGE SITUATION,
BEHROOZ SEES THE RUTHLESSNESS OF HIS PARENTS
IN PART 2 OF THE SPECIAL TWO-DAY, FOUR-HOUR “24”
SEASON PREMIERE EVENT MONDAY, JANUARY 10, ON FOX

Jack goes against Driscoll’s order and creates a hostage situation to monitor the trained operative he’s been tracking for finding Heller’s kidnappers. Meanwhile, Behrooz sees first-hand the ruthlessness of his parents; and CTU adds a systems analyst (recurring guest star Aisha Tyler) into the mix during the time of crisis in the episodes “Day 4: 9:00 AM–10:00 AM” and “Day 4: 10:00 AM–11:00 AM” Monday, Jan. 10 (8:00-10:00 PM ET/PT) on FOX.


From TV Guide online http://www.tvguide.com
Sunday 1/9 8:00pm-10:00pm EST
24: Day 4: 7:00 AM-8:00 AM; 8:00 AM-9:00 AM
In the fourth season opener, an attack on an LA comuter train is followed by a possible threat to the internet, bringing forth a suspect who arouses suspicion of more in Jack Bauer, now working for Secretary of Defense (Willian Devane).

Monday 1/10 8:00pm-10:00pm EST
Day 4: 9:00 AM-10:00 AM; 10:00 AM-11:00 AM
Driscoll orders tough measures against Richards. Chloe's trust in Jack is tested. Jack goes to great lengths to detain a suspect. Behrooz asks his mother for help to change his father's command.

Don't forget to check out True Dork Times 24 Season 4
Life Expectency Chart and TDT also has spoilers this year.


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"RE: 24 Season Premier Sunday 1/9 & Monday 1/10"
Posted by trigirl on 01-06-05 at 10:40 AM
Hey Bawdy,

Still no spoilers about Palmer out there? I will really miss 'you need me' David.


"Jack is Back"
Posted by blacknwhitedog on 01-06-05 at 10:56 AM
I just got the new TV Guide at home and there is some spoilerish stuff in it. When I get home I'll try to remember to post some hidden text.



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"from TV Guide"
Posted by blacknwhitedog on 01-06-05 at 09:49 PM
vaguely spoilerish hidden text

Carlos Bernard (Tony Almeida) will return in the seventh episode, and producers are in talks with Dennis Haysbert (David Palmer) about coming back in the spring.
Tony Almeida has spent a year in prison before Palmer pardons him in one of his last executive orders. And he's divorced from Michelle (Reiko Aylesworth) who'll also make a repeat appearance.



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"RE: from TV Guide"
Posted by trigirl on 01-09-05 at 10:55 AM
Good interview with Joel Surnow in the Toronto Sun.

In response to Bawdy's vaguely spoilerish hidden text, some of my own


From the Toronto Sun Interview with producer Surnow: Not that they're all gone for good. Surnow confirms Tony and Michelle will return later in the season. "And we're hopefully close to a deal for Dennis to come back for a substantial story arc."

Also, he says that for sure there will be no Kim. Yippee!


"RE: 24 Season Premier Sunday 1/9 & Monday 1/10"
Posted by bondt007 on 01-07-05 at 03:06 PM
Thanks for this information! I still have not decided if I'm going to watch this season. I've seen the others, but it's a stressful show!

I'm sure in the end, I'll be watching!

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"RE: 24 Season Premier Sunday 1/9 & Monday 1/10"
Posted by Breezy on 01-07-05 at 03:44 PM
I can't wait! Great invisible text too Bawdy.


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"RE: 24 Season Premier Sunday 1/9 & Monday 1/10"
Posted by minitroll on 01-07-05 at 03:45 PM
Thanks for the info Bawdy. I can't wait for Sunday night!


"RE: 24 Season Premier Sunday 1/9 & Monday 1/10"
Posted by sittem on 01-09-05 at 11:48 PM
He's baaaack! Only 22 more hours to go. I'm so glad to have Jack tonight to asuage my grief.

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"Farve"
Posted by blacknwhitedog on 01-10-05 at 11:38 AM
sorry 'bout that

"Sunday night's show"
Posted by Breezy on 01-10-05 at 09:01 AM
Sooooo what did everyone think? Did I recognize one of the bad guys from a previous year?

"Season Premiere"
Posted by trigirl on 01-10-05 at 09:02 AM
Loved it!

Thoughts....

Nice to see Jack's softer side again.

New CTU boss is evil.

Chloe is much more likeable.

Baddies are not just bad, they are sinister. Like that.


"RE: Season Premiere"
Posted by blacknwhitedog on 01-10-05 at 09:09 AM
There is something about Dina Araz (the mom)- I think she is not what she seems.


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"The softer side of Chloe"
Posted by northernlights on 01-10-05 at 12:57 PM
I like her soooo much better than last season. She looks much prettier this year too.


Lovin' it so far.


"RE: 24 Season Premier Sunday 1/9 & Monday 1/10"
Posted by Loree on 01-10-05 at 09:50 AM
Oh I already love this season more than last season.

"RE: 24 Season Premier Sunday 1/9 & Monday 1/10"
Posted by Gerbees on 01-10-05 at 11:40 AM
I'm already yelling at my TV so it must have been good!

Gerbees


"RE: 24 Season Premier Sunday 1/9 & Monday 1/10"
Posted by Jims02 on 01-10-05 at 01:04 PM
This season is really getting good. It should be interesting to see if the teenager Araz will kill Debbie.


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"RE: 24 Season Premier Sunday 1/9 & Monday 1/10"
Posted by sittem on 01-10-05 at 02:20 PM
I think she's a goner, but I think he has real feelings in the way. I'm betting on the mom - she is definitely evil!

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"RE: 24 Season Premier Sunday 1/9 & Monday 1/10"
Posted by minitroll on 01-10-05 at 02:25 PM
So far, I'm loving it! My thoughts..

1. The new CTU boss is a piece of work. I hate her.

2. I miss Tony and Michelle.

3. I do not miss Kim.

4. I actually liked Chloe last night.

5. It will be interesting to see if Behrooz has the stomache for killing, or if he ends up helping Jack.


"RE: 24 Season Premier Sunday 1/9 & Monday 1/10"
Posted by sittem on 01-10-05 at 02:39 PM
I miss Tony and Michelle also, but I think they've gotten a divorce (and Tony may pop in at some point).

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"RE: 24 Season Premier Sunday 1/9 & Monday 1/10"
Posted by jkokoj on 01-11-05 at 09:43 AM
1. Like this season much better than last
2. Do NOT miss Kim
3. Do NOT like Chloe, yuck, she annoys me
4. Jack is kick azz
5. New CTU boss is a real jerk
6. Miss Tony and Michelle
7. Love Heller and the guy he plays him (woo hoo Knotts Landing anyone!)
8. Agree that the mom is evil, evil, evil and am hoping that Baruse will turn things around.
9. Glad that Sherry and Palmer are gone, story was old and boring

OK I did not recognize the baddy from previous seasons, anyone care to enlighten me??!!



"RE: 24 Season Premier Sunday 1/9 & Monday 1/10"
Posted by emydi on 01-11-05 at 10:22 AM
Ok, I love this show but it has to get rid of the stupid side plots..

Do we really need another conniving woman at CTU--Curtis' fling Maryann is the same character as in Season 3-the woman that hated Michelle....ugh

Why does Erin Driscoll have to have a daughter at all...maybe if this was an OC-like show, but in 24 who cares..

I do like Edgar Stiles though, he is a new and fresh character...I love how he answers his phone...

Chloe, I haven't decided yet, but Jack has to have an in at CTU and she was the only one that they wanted to bring back..the others had played out their stories..so for now, I'll tolerate her.

I love the fact that they killed Debbie and she did not get away...she would have been Kim all over again...and the mother is the new Sherry Palmer EVIL I love it...as soon as she said "I'll make tea" I knew Debbie was a goner...what Baruz (sp?) does I think will be key...I like him too

I love William Devane...I loved watching him on Knots Landing too!! Watcing him shooting an automatic weapon was funny though...

oh and his daughter...I hate her...she's way too wimpy for Jack to be in love with!!!


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"RE: 24 Season Premier Sunday 1/9 & Monday 1/10"
Posted by Devious Weasel on 01-11-05 at 11:13 AM
I think Driscoll's daughter becomes the way Jack keeps from being arrested after the Sec of Defense is recovered. It either results in Driscoll being removed or gives Jack a blackmail item.



"RE: 24 Season Premier Sunday 1/9 & Monday 1/10"
Posted by blacknwhitedog on 01-11-05 at 10:50 AM
Chloe- I like her this season. How long will she sit a holding cell though?

Edgar- has to be a quirky tech person every year. We had Sara Gilbert, then Chloe last year, now we have Edgar.

Curtis and Maryann- too much like the president's brother and his affair from last season.

Sec. Heller- his escape attempt was cool. Don't like Audrey so much.

Erin Driscoll- bound to get her come-uppance. They added to daughter storyline to give her character some sympathy.

Jack is kick azz. But couldn't he think of any other way to delay Kalil? I mean c'mon. Couldn't he let the air out of his tires or something? But no he has to rob the gas station. Well based on the previews he talks his way out of that one real quick.

I'm expecting Tony to be back and very, very bitter.



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"or..."
Posted by shakes the clown on 01-12-05 at 05:35 PM
>Erin Driscoll- bound to get her
>come-uppance. They added to
>daughter storyline to give her
>character some sympathy.
>
>

.....could it be a kidnapping/blackmail/bargaining chip type thing down the road....even though they already did that last year with Michelle and Tony.


"RE: 24 Season Premier Sunday 1/9 & Monday 1/10"
Posted by Tahj on 01-11-05 at 11:17 AM
I liked it a lot, overall. A couple of things bugged me. One, why bother with Erin Driscoll having a schizophrenic daughter? A little over the top and unecessary IMO. When she first got the call, I was sure her daughter was going to be Debbie, Behrooz's girlfriend. But no. Two, Jack wants to delay the terrorist so he stages a robbery? What, he can't puncture a tire or pull some plugs? Way over the top, but typical 24 style.



"RE: 24 Season Premier Sunday 1/9 & Monday 1/10"
Posted by sittem on 01-11-05 at 05:01 PM
1. I'm still trying to digest four hours - that's a very nice dosage and I HOPE they decide to go this route again next season - the timing after the first of the year is good with FB winding down and it's nice to really get into it quickly. Now, hopefully I can adapt to the one hour a week.
2. I am definitely liking this season story line more than last year at this point - the addiction thing was very messy and seemed inconsistent (though I missed 5-6 hours in the middle while I was gone - I'm tempted to go after that DVD that's available.
3. Behrooz - I guess he's been corrupted by living in American culture - seems like an interesting story line. In this case maybe that "corruption" is good. I'd like to discuss this some other time - the effect of American culture and assimilation - good or bad?
BTW - now he's going to have to get rid of the body in the next hour or two. Does he end up turning on mom and dad down the road?
4. Chloe - nice to see a familiar face and she's a little more in tune this year, though she can still be very annoying.
5. Erin - must one be an a-hole to lead CTU? It seems to be a requirement (other than Jack, of course). I suppose the tension it creates feeds the show. Daughter thingy - I sure hope it ties in somewhere down the road. Otherwise it's just filling time. I don't want to have dangling participles this season (btw - what is a participle?).
6. Curtis - I'm trying to warm up to him, but this affair thing coming into the middle of the crisis and the tension is to much been there/done that.
7. Edgar - nice to see a "regular" person get a few minutes on the show. I like his klutzyness and nervousness. OTH - how did he get this job?
8. With the Heller thing getting resolved next week or the week after (it seems) there's a long way to go and many more issues to solve for the next 19 hours - I'm surprised they're getting this one done so quickly, though I'm glad to see it keep moving ahead.
9. Jack is Jack - though it was nice to see him calm and at ease for an hour or so (saw Kiefer on Letterman a couple of weeks ago and he seems to want to see the show keep going and going - he loves it).
10. The robbery - far be it from me to not criticize gratuitous writing and events. Yet, I can see why he chose this method. Chloe is having trouble with the satellite - there's no guarantee that it's gonna happen imminently. So, a flat tire might delay long enough, but what if.... Plus, does it make our mark more suspicious and less likely to follow through with going back to the warehouse? I'd say yes since he was suspicious of being followed and this would really raise his suspicions even more. Plus, with the robbery, Jack has the option of stretching it out longer to accomodate Chloe (as he attempted). Any competent person can change a flat in 10 minutes adn then he's back on the road again quickly - he is in an hurry. Finally, would you rather watch him change a flat or Jack pretending to hold the place up so he gets a chance to yell at people and order them around? I'm surprised he didn't shot anyone in the leg.
11. Tony should be showing up between 1 and 2 p.m. Why? What's the angle and how do he and Jack end up working together.
12. NO KIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
13. Could we get a gratitous look at Sherry Palmer at some point?

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"Sherry"
Posted by trigirl on 01-12-05 at 01:21 PM
13. Could we get a gratitous look at Sherry Palmer at some point?

Do you mean her rotting, worm infested corpse....kinda like a CSI episode? tee hee

All good points Sittem.


"RE: 24 Season Premier Sunday 1/9 & Monday 1/10"
Posted by Tahj on 01-12-05 at 01:31 PM
10. The robbery - far be it from me to not criticize gratuitous writing and events. Yet, I can see why he chose this method. Chloe is having trouble with the satellite - there's no guarantee that it's gonna happen imminently. So, a flat tire might delay long enough, but what if.... Plus, does it make our mark more suspicious and less likely to follow through with going back to the warehouse? I'd say yes since he was suspicious of being followed and this would really raise his suspicions even more. Plus, with the robbery, Jack has the option of stretching it out longer to accomodate Chloe (as he attempted). Any competent person can change a flat in 10 minutes adn then he's back on the road again quickly - he is in an hurry. Finally, would you rather watch him change a flat or Jack pretending to hold the place up so he gets a chance to yell at people and order them around? I'm surprised he didn't shot anyone in the leg.

Yeah, I get the reasons for doing it, and no, a flat tire would not have delayed him for very long. It's just so over the top and is causing Jack more problems that could jepardize his mission. Like I said, it's typical 24 style but is that all the writers could come up with?


"Ratings"
Posted by trigirl on 01-12-05 at 01:22 PM
Best ever ratings for 24, part one of the premiere. Yippee.

"1/17/05 Episode"
Posted by Tahj on 01-18-05 at 09:36 AM
So, is Chloe gone for good? Just like that? If so, it sucks big time.

Wonder how Erin's daughter will go psycho and provide the personal drama interlude at CTU. Remember last year how Michelle's brother burst into CTU, caused a little hoopla, then was escorted away, never to be heard from again.

Shazayam! Terrorist martyrs himself. Splat!

Will Jack rescue damsel in distress?

Behrooz! Meet the P's. Run dude, you're dead meat.


"RE: 1/17/05 Episode"
Posted by emydi on 01-18-05 at 03:29 PM
Will Jack rescue damsel in distress?

I hope not..she is horrible...why do they put Jack with these wimpy-a$$ women all the time?? His wife was obnoxiously horrible and this woman is worse than he wife and Kim put together. I wish she hadn't woken up last nite... or better yet, Heller should have done to her what he asked her to do...I couldn't even watch her cryin.. the Tivo ff button is a beautiful thing...


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"RE: 1/17/05 Episode"
Posted by Tahj on 01-18-05 at 04:40 PM
Have to disagree with you about Jack's wife. I thought she kicked major åss most of the time, except when she thought Kim was dead, fainted, and woke up with amnesia. But I blame the writers for that. Her character overall was a strong one.

"RE: 1/17/05 Episode"
Posted by beaker on 01-24-05 at 10:21 PM
I liked her, too.

"spoilerish"
Posted by blacknwhitedog on 01-21-05 at 04:49 PM
In our newspaper yesterday, there was a small blurb that Dennis Haysbert (Palmer) will appear in the last 6 episodes this season.


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"RE: spoilerish"
Posted by sittem on 01-23-05 at 10:41 PM
You mean the guy who sells State Farm Insurance?

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"RE: spoilerish"
Posted by blacknwhitedog on 01-24-05 at 12:08 PM
It's Allstate


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"RE: spoilerish"
Posted by Tahj on 01-24-05 at 02:20 PM
You in good hands, baby.

I'll look forward to seeing Ex-pres Palmer and what he's been up to.


"RE: spoilerish"
Posted by sittem on 01-24-05 at 05:13 PM
groan...that's why I post on these boards - it helps keep me humble

how about a new thresd after tonight to get a little discussion going?

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