I agree Jbug. I don't think Vienna is attractive at all, and she is so cocky and smug. But, her flaws are for Jake to find out, and the other girls are ruining their own chances. Enough with trying to put down Vienna...they need to be worried about charming Jake. And right now, it's all about Vienna. This season is the pits.

Agree with you about Kathryn and Ella.

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I am still in shock about what happened last night in The Bachelor. I am sad that Ella was sent home Now we are left with a bunch of girls hating on Vienna (which I'm fine with because I'm not the biggest fan of hers). I found the Top Bitchiest Moments from episode 4.....so funny!

http://www.thebachelorshow.com/article/top-12-bitchiest-moments-episode-144-vienna-vs-ali-edition

I've only seen half. Tomorrow I will pick up with the 2/1 date. Yes, I already know what happens, but I like to watch it all.

I thought these were fun dates, and it was funny to see the girls au natural. I thought they were still pretty - well, most of them.

Ali was my clear favorite, but I don't like her vendetta against Viena, and I think it will be her downfall. I think her "taking one for the team" could be her going home.

It was clear that there was no chemistry between Jake and Ashliegh. She is smokin' hot, but it just was uncomfortable. I think she looks a lot like Kyra Sedgwick.

Jessie: Meh.

Corrie: Meh.

I like Tenley, and I liked Gia this episode, although I'm still not quite sure how the city mouse will really fit in the country. But hey, it works for Cameron and Mitchell.

Viena. Blah, blah, blah. Agree with what the others say below about her just not being attractive. I don't know what it is he sees in her. Perhaps she represents that "sow your last wild oat" for him before he gets married. *shrug* Hopefully she's gone next.

Can't wait to watch Part 2 tomorrow.

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I think maybe Jake doesn't want a female that he thinks is better looking than him. If he picks Vienna he can feel she is good enough looking but not too striking to deprive him of being the best looking one of the couple. Just like he doesn't seem to like women that are taller than him or strong women. He wants a female that squeals and looks up to him. Vienna does that.

I'm not sure. I think the deal with her is that maybe he wants to be the one to see the flaws. From what I can tell so far, he seems to be serious about the process, so perhaps he just wants to be absolutely sure. It looks like from next week's previews that he sees something - I just hope it's her getting into the limo and not Ali since Ali has stated that she will have a talk with Jake if Vienna stays.

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Vienna is difficult to watch. DS and DH can't look at her - DD laughs. She appears to be as mature as a high school girl.

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I think it's funny and a bit odd how the girls are more upset this season about Vienna staying than they are about Jake breaking up with them.

Is Jake really so blah that all the girls have to concentrate all of their attention onto Vienna instead of forming a relationship with THE MAN involved?

No one leaves sobbing "I can't live without Jake! How will life go on?!" No, instead they are all "I hope he knows he's making a HUGE mistake keeping Vienna around, blah, blah, blah.

Even people still there (Ali and to a degree, Tenley) are more concerned at times for Vienna than about Jake. Every date with Ali and Jake now consists of, "Really, you are still going to keep Vienna around? I can't believe it." Then Jake kisses her to shut her up. Get over yourself Ali, he can date whoever he wants....it's The Bachelor after all.

Although, I do agree with the ladies (and others on here) and think there is something odd about Vienna. Something about her eyes makes her difficult to watch.

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