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"The Finale"
Posted by Sophie on 09-16-03 at 10:58 PM
Hank is a wonderful, classy, caring man. I'm glad that he won and thrilled that he chose not to marry her now because of the reasons he gave. I think Lisa and Hank were both definitely there for the right reasons.

Discuss the Finale.


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"RE: The Finale"
Posted by TheDigable on 09-16-03 at 11:02 PM
LAST EDITED ON 09-16-03 AT 11:17 PM (EST)

>Discuss the Finale.


ehh...


It was a little flat for me. I'da felt robbed if I was CBS.

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by kcstrip on 09-16-03 at 11:33 PM
LAST EDITED ON 09-16-03 AT 11:35 PM (EST)

The classy thing to do would have been to marry her. They could have had their own private ceremony any time. Hank won't marry her. He's pulling a Ben Affleck.

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by TheDigable on 09-16-03 at 11:35 PM
He pulled a Ben Affleck worth 1 million...

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by kcstrip on 09-16-03 at 11:44 PM
He wouldn't have gotten the 1 mill anyway, because they won't last a year.
"RE: The Finale"
Posted by Majic Mitch on 09-17-03 at 07:47 AM
You are so RIGHT! What a let down. Hank knew what was coming. He never cared what was on TV before. It's all a little ridiculous.

In addition, I called the whole Hank and Robert as the final two, in week 3. I think Robert more than likely got the majority of the votes, but they declared Hank the winner, because they "thought" a marriage would take place. It's all about the ratings. Robert was very carismatic. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't start seeing ALOT more of him soon, and not just on reality TV.

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by munson on 09-17-03 at 01:13 PM
I so agree.

Regardless of the outcome of the popular vote, there is no way the producers were going to accept Robert as the winner. That would have been the least suspensful ending ever.

Do I think Robert out-polled Hank? Probably not. But I don't think the outcome would have been different even if he did.

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by Joyful on 09-17-03 at 05:08 AM
LAST EDITED ON 09-17-03 AT 06:09 AM (EST)

>LAST EDITED ON 09-16-03
>AT 11:35 PM (EST)
>
>The classy thing to do would
>have been to marry her.
> They could have had
>their own private ceremony any
>time. Hank won't marry her.
> He's pulling a Ben
>Affleck.

kcstrip you are the most the glass is half empty person I've ever come across!
You post all over the place that the show was stupid and anyone who got married on TV deserved to be unhappy and Hank was only in this for the money and they don't really care about each other...yada, yada, yada. Then I read that Hank is a loser because he DIDN'T marry her on TV?!? Puh-leeze
You posted a message for me saying that when Robert won the final vote all of us Hank fans would be crying in our coffee the next day, well it seems to me the only person crying in their coffee is you and let me guess...the cup is half-empty!

Edit:
I'm editing this because I feel bad about how awful I sounded (I think I was having one of those weird Joe blow up moments). I'm not living up to the name my mother gave me. Although I still feel the things I wrote, I didn't have to be so nasty. kcstrip and swami have agreed to disagree, I think kcstrip and I should do the same. kcstrip, you are an excellent sparing partner and I'm sure we will have the chance to disagree again someday.
Do you happen to watch Survivor? (insert evil laugh here) ()

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by kcstrip on 09-17-03 at 07:43 AM

>kcstrip you are the most the
>glass is half empty person
>I've ever come across!
>You post all over the place
>that the show was stupid
>and anyone who got married
>on TV deserved to be
>unhappy and Hank was only
>in this for the money
>and they don't really care
>about each other...

Hey, get a clue, it's a TV show! Just because I criticize this stupidity, don't label me "glass is half empty" person. You really don't know anything about me other than I don't like your beloved show. I do believe in love I just don't think you could or should find love by going on a reality game show. I also think you fans of the show take this thing a little too seriously. And to correct you I never said Hank was in it for the money. I don't think Hank is in love and last night definitely proved that. It was a lame excuse to say they wanted a private wedding. They could have had a private ceremony of their own anyway. If they weren't ready to married, they should have just said so. No crying in my coffee. I'm GLAD the show is over. It would have been much more fun if Robert had won. I think even some of the fans of the show must admit, the ending was anti-climatic. I just hope CBS doesn't do this again.

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by Silvergirl1 on 09-17-03 at 05:44 AM
George Costanza? Is that really you?

Joyful is right. Your glass is half empty.
Silvergirl

Watch out for the poison glue on the cheap invitations!
"RE: The Finale"
Posted by Cupidcruiser on 09-16-03 at 11:40 PM
LAST EDITED ON 09-16-03 AT 11:58 PM (EST)

I'm so glad there wasn't a wedding--it would have been forced no matter what (unless it was Joe and Laura---and how about that Joe trying for one last minute of fame?)!

IMHO Hank should have told Lisa he loved her and would marry her right now or whenever she chose (like I think Ben should have let J.Lo break up with him--call me an old-fashioned girl but that was mean, Ben). And then let LISA say back to Hank "you are my dream and I want my dream wedding." I think they agreed in their little last interview that they don't want to get married.

I LOVED the guy scenes. Those pingpong games were hysterical. I would love to see Dom, Evan, and Robert in a sitcom, perhaps playing the next-door neighbors to newlyweds. The reenactment of Lisa (Dom) choosing Hank (Robert) with Evan's direction was hyserical!

I wish Lisa had said something to Dom and also to Robert when they got voted off as she did with Evan. Dom had a nice speech and that Evan is quite engaging too.

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by Jaybird248 on 09-17-03 at 00:17 AM
Lisa admitted they'd discussed what to do if Hank was chosen, and they had jointly decided to hold out for a proper private wedding, with all the trimmings. Hank didn't care about the money because Chicago options traders make that kind of money every year. Lisa's family also lives in one of the priciest Detroit burbs, where the car company bosses hang. There's plenty of money surrounding this couple.

The real dummy here was Brian McFayden. He looked like somebody had pulled the carpet from under him when the happy couple took control. And that remark about "Don't you owe America a wedding?" was just lame.

For a moment there, I thought the producers had fooled with the results and would announce the winner was Robert, then that he'd gallantly admit Lisa's happiness was most important and turn her over to Hank. But looks like we had an honest vote...unlike what real life politics seems to have become.

All in all, it was a fun show, and though the ratings weren't what they wanted, I hope they do it again.

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by Cupidcruiser on 09-17-03 at 00:35 AM
Word is Hank wants to move to Texas with a couple of guys and start up a vinyard as partners--he quit his options trading job before the show's auditions. Lisa was born with a silver spoon in her mouth but I don't think Hank has a ton of dough. I'm glad the money wasn't a deciding factor but I also don't think they'll ever get married.

And too bad the votes can't get audited.... I was so hoping for a real twist of an announcement that Robert, although receiving the most votes, was a plant and not a real contestant.

Doubt very much there will be another season for this show. Some of it was fun but a lot of it was amateur hour.

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by PapillonLvr on 09-17-03 at 01:25 AM
Actually, I was rooting for Robert ever since he was publicly humiliated on T.V.

>And too bad the votes can't
>get audited.... I was so
>hoping for a real twist
>of an announcement that Robert,
>although receiving the most votes,
>was a plant and not
>a real contestant.
>
>

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by ashleybfogg on 09-19-03 at 04:56 PM
really? me, too.
I heard that Evan really lit into Laura about the way she was treating Robert - I mean REALLY told her off. That's why she and kim began to be kinder to him, after the dinner evan made for everybody.


"RE: The Finale"
Posted by managerr on 09-17-03 at 11:12 AM
A year? Try 200K. I have no doubt that a handful of options traders can make that much in a year, but it's going to be a miniscule percentage of that amount. If you're a bad options trader, you won't make that much at all.

In any case, do I respect Hank and Lisa more as people for doing what they did? Yes. Do I think they insulted the show and the fans who voted by choosing what they did? Yes, also. The whole thing about "Are you ready to be married?" And when it came down to it, neither of them were ready? WTF?

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by toodles on 09-17-03 at 02:52 PM
They seemed to have all the intentions of getting married - we will see if they do, but how is that disappointing? People WANTED to see them get married on that cheesy stage??? And after such a short time??? I surely did not. Kudos to them for wanting to build their own relationship outside of the limelight. Really, the expectation that anyone would get married like that is preposterous.
"RE: The Finale"
Posted by PIPPIE on 09-17-03 at 06:09 PM
Dear Toodles,
then the show should have been called:LET'S FIND LISA A DATE
"RE: The Finale"
Posted by Cupidcruiser on 09-17-03 at 07:14 PM
Hey, nice use of caps my darling Pippie! Good one, too--or it could have just been called LET'S FIND A BUNCH OF GUYS FOR LISA TO MAKE OUT WITH
"RE: The Finale"
Posted by PIPPIE on 09-17-03 at 09:22 PM
Dear C.C,

That's a good one!!! hahaha

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by beachgal on 09-17-03 at 02:59 AM
My favorite scenes tonight were the guy scenes, too. It was great to see Evan and Dom in that environment. I too am glad there wasn't a wedding.

I don't blame Lisa for wanting to get out of the media scene so they can move on with their lives in a normal way. My impression of what she said when Hank was asked a question was, "F U America, we never cared whether you voted or nat, I've found marriage material, we will nat be separated due to your opinions so leave us alone!" (As much as Hank seems like the "take charge" guy, Lisa will probably make all the decisions in their relationship.) As always (Toodles) I know I may be totally wrong.

Honestly, I'd much rather see her name thrown around on a public board like this than mine. I'd hate being in the public eye being butchered by posters like me.

So... I'll quit with it (for tonight, at least). I wish Lisa and Hank the best.

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by ashleybfogg on 09-17-03 at 01:17 PM
>IMHO Hank should have told Lisa he loved her>
>and would marry her right now or whenever she chose. >
>And then let LISA say back to Hank "you are my dream >
>and I want my dream wedding.">

Dear CupidCruiser - Perfect! Now, put that together with Swami's suggestion that Mc Fayden could have "hosted' this show with empathy and connection to SOMETHING, and we would have had a good ending! (hey, even if they had decided to wed, they'd have taken one glance at that tacky set and run run away.)
You and Swami should have written the ending. Thanks for the intelligent and entertaining posts- you're a class act!
keep the faith.


ashleybfogg

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by Cupidcruiser on 09-17-03 at 07:18 PM
And don't you think that Brian McFayden was the most pathetic excuse for a host? He totally phoned it in for the finale!! Geez, act like a real person instead of a 12-year-old class clown!

And did everyone notice that at the end for the nonwedding that Lisa and Hank's faces were in shadow? Nice production values!! Maybe I already said this but I still can't believe how poorly the last 10 minutes came across. Any halfway competent wedding videographer would have done a better job!

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by ashleybfogg on 09-17-03 at 07:46 PM
yeah, baby!
I know a little of tv world, and all I can think is that with the poor ratings, the producers just sort of cut budget and left him on his own - it's a problem with a live show - they produced as they went, and didn't commit. With a show like Love or Money or the Bachelor, it's all secret, so they do it all ahead, commit the money, and go full tilt boogie - it gives a show a chance to find it's audience, ratings be damned. And it looks classy.

Yeah, the lighting - damn! I think they cut the stage lights to such an extent and left it up to the follow spot operator to cover them - so you're either in shadow or... the OTHER look they had - like deer caught in the headlights!
It looked like it was a dress rehearsal - I can't figure it - but maybe if they told the producers that there would be no wedding, they just cut the budget to shreds and rinky-dinked the end. I think McFayden didn't have a clue (or a script) what to do - and it showed. I really liked your suggestion though, lose all that wedding frufru, have a classy proposal and let Lisa decide - with Swami's script for Brian - soft and real and empathetic.

Well, if they do it again, (shudder) maybe they'll know what to fix. You want a job?
Thanks for all the great posts - you're a doll. Hey- speaking of dolls - what's YOUR beaniebaby look like? You and Dominic, yeah? and teeniebeaniebabies evan and pippie (with their names in CAPS, remember, on their little teenie shirts).
you rock, cruiser, thanks for the smiles.


ashlet

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by Cupidcruiser on 09-17-03 at 08:45 PM
I am holding onto the Dominic beanie baby because he's still too immature to send out in the world. The Evan beanie baby is just the cutest one of all and does he like to play! I will send him to you!
"RE: The Finale"
Posted by ashleybfogg on 09-17-03 at 09:15 PM
yes, I'm sure that's best, you Hold On to Dominic...
and sigh... if I can't have teeniebabyrobertbeanie....sigh...didn't he look so cute in his tux?...ah...
But really, thank you so much! I'd love to have little Evan - he is a cutie and I'll have something special to give 'lil pippie on her birthday - she LOVES him!



ashlet

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by PIPPIE on 09-17-03 at 09:30 PM
Dearest Ashley,

You are so funny!!

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by PIPPIE on 09-17-03 at 09:27 PM
Dear Ashlet and CC,

I'll play with the Evan beaniebaby!!!

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by ashleybfogg on 09-17-03 at 09:49 PM
Oh! I can see it now... Little PIPPIE and EVAN at the beach - frolicking in the waves - playin' catch - snuggled up together next to the crackling fire, (camera pans up...'cause little evan's so shy to kiss on camera...)
adorable!


ashlet

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by PIPPIE on 09-17-03 at 09:59 PM
Dear Ashlet,

Now that's the way it should have ended! that was the best post yet! love ya! pip

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by ashleybfogg on 09-18-03 at 01:50 PM
Thanks pippie! By the way, your instincts about evan were more right than you know! I heard some inside info about something he did that would make you proud of him.
keep the faith, baby.

ashlet
"RE: The Finale"
Posted by PIPPIE on 09-18-03 at 07:47 PM
Ashlet! don't keep me in suspense!!give me the goods!!

anyway, it doesn't surprise me. character and integrity are the qualities that really count in any individual. glad to hear that Evan did something that was note worthy!!! EVAN ROCKS

love from, (this is for you Ashlet)

Piplet (not to be confused with piglet)

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by ashleybfogg on 09-18-03 at 08:30 PM
i sent you a mail - piplet!

ashlet
"RE: The Finale"
Posted by beachgal on 09-17-03 at 03:07 AM
Question you who taped the show...

Did I hear right when Hank said something about...that if it were just any other average girl on that stage with money involved, he WOULD go through a wedding?

Please clarify.

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by Joyful on 09-17-03 at 05:16 AM
Hi beachgal, he said "if it was another girl or something I didn't think was very special then maybe I would have done it for the money but Lisa means something to me and I'm not going to cheapen that."

Hope that clarifies

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by Silvergirl1 on 09-17-03 at 04:44 AM
I think it is way more romantic that Hank had so much respect for Lisa that he wanted a private wedding. The money really isn't THAT important to either of them. I wish them luck.

They also need time to really get to know one another. If it works out, that's great.

Silvergirl

Anyone want to clam up with me?

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by toodles on 09-17-03 at 11:26 AM
Well said, silvergirl! I am glad that they are classier than to have gotten married on TV. I think that everyone who knows Hank was nervous about him doing that, and they were relieved when he did not. And it was clear that Hank and Lisa had agreed on it and discussed it beforehand. Good for them! Throughout, McFayden was choosy with his words about the whole wedding thing - they never really explained what the expectations were, and who honestly expects people to do that under those circumstances anyway. In my opinion, the fact that they didn't was the show's one redeeming quality. How can people rip on them for that?? If they had done it, it would have cheapened marriage and people would say that they were out for money. Clearly they are bigger people than that and they do not care about the money (no matter how much money her family has is irrelevant - it is the principal of the matter). I just don't know how people can criticize. Hank and Lisa redeemed the show by making the choice they did. It is not a debacle just because they didn't throw their lives and values away for some ratings for ABC and a million dollars. THAT would have been the true debacle.
"RE: The Finale"
Posted by toodles on 09-17-03 at 11:33 AM
oops - I mean ratings for CBS. ;)
"RE: The Finale"
Posted by Silvergirl1 on 09-17-03 at 02:09 PM

LOL Toodles! Maybe they did improve the ratings for ABC.

One more general comment: Hank and Lisa need to get to know each other under "normal" circumstances. The dates set up by the show were not normal. They seem to have a connection and I hope they can maintain it within a normal courtship setting.

Silvergirl

Anyone want to clam up with me?

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by HappyDayz on 09-17-03 at 06:00 AM
I loved it! Okay...a real proposal might have been nice, but it sounded like the happy couple is planning on seeing what they have going on between them (outside the public eye). If it's right, they will eventually get married, if not, at least they had that moment (with the man she wanted standing beside her at the end).

I'm missing them all already though.....no more Lisa, no more Hank, no more Laura and Kim.....*sniff* And how will we know when Brian changes his hair again?

The Robert/Dom acted 'mock wedding' was a riot! Hank's reactions were priceless (would have loved to see Lisa's). Loved when Evan pushed down on Hank's shoulders and said "Feel that? It's pressure".

Ken showed great class....he was picked on more than anyone by Laura and Kim (except Robert, of course), yet he made such a nice statement. I always liked him, but he and Lisa just didn't click at all....and besides, I was sold on Hank by the end of the first date. Most of the other guys showed some class too...but not all, I won't talk about them right now though

Lisa looked beautiful....Hank looked awesome....and it was so sweet when she ran up on stage and hugged him after he was announced the winner. Wedding or no, there will be no crying for the Hank~Lisa diehard fans today!

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by DoodleBug on 09-17-03 at 10:19 AM
Great post, HappyDayz. It's like you are reading my mind!


A Kyngsladye Original


"RE: The Finale"
Posted by Joyful on 09-17-03 at 06:18 AM
What was up with Brian's hair?!?! That was the weirdest hair I've ever seen! It was a cross between a semi Mohawk and the way new mothers style their newborns hair. It was very distracting to say the least. He should send his hairstylist packing...back to Ryan Seacrest!
"RE: The Finale"
Posted by HappyDayz on 09-17-03 at 06:24 AM
Maybe Brian should let Laura do his hair? LOL, I found it distracting too...when he first walked on stage, I didn't notice anything else, my eyes were totally drawn to that hair!
"RE: The Finale"
Posted by passiondotcom on 09-17-03 at 08:27 AM
I am also going through withdrawal....was hoping that they'd be on the CBS morning show, but doesn't look like it. I think that CBS did not do justice to this show; looks like they were making up the "rules" as they went along.

I am glad that they did not go through with the wedding...I was feeling embarrassed for Lisa and Hank; they are both too classy for that kind of ending. A real wedding at that point last night would've cheapened everything. I don't really think that an actual wedding was a good idea to begin with. These two hadn't even told each other that they were in love yet! (how could they be after so little time together??)

I wish them all the best! I f anyone hears that they are going to be any show, pls post it here!

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by HappyDayz on 09-17-03 at 09:46 AM
LAST EDITED ON 09-17-03 AT 10:00 AM (EST)

They were just on the Early show a few minutes ago...it was only for a few seconds, and it was recorded after the show last night (they were still dressed up). Lisa said they wanted to take the time to get to know each other back in real life, and she didn't want the flaming heart decorations, etc. when she has her wedding. Hank just stood beside her smiling and looking pretty

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by Cupidcruiser on 09-17-03 at 10:35 AM
>Maybe Brian should let Laura do
>his hair? LOL, I
>found it distracting too...when he
>first walked on stage, I
>didn't notice anything else, my
>eyes were totally drawn to
>that hair!


Maybe Brian DID let Laura do his hair

"dont you just love happy endings....."
Posted by smiley on 09-17-03 at 08:17 AM
it actually turned out pretty much as i expected it.

I am glad they didn't get married...it would have been forced and tacky. Whether they do get married in the future is not really the issue. Its that they are going to try and be together like a normal couple and plan out their future instead of being forced to live it. I commend Hank for turning down the million dollars. It really says alot about him. And he looked so damn cute.

The only thing I didn't like was how corny the whole wedding thing was set up and then he said no. I wish they had of just come back from the break and they had both announced it together. Like it was something they had already decided on and didn't want to fool anyone. Brian should be fired for the comment "dont you owe it to america to get married?". i wish instead of "definetly no" to HELL NO LOL.

"RE: dont you just love happy endings....."
Posted by PIPPIE on 09-17-03 at 09:13 AM
DULL! DUD! FARCE! LAME! COMPLETELY PREDICTABLE! WHAT A JOKE THE ENDING WAS!!!

i regress............

if there really was romance and true love requited, then why not go for it and take the plunge? yes, this was happily an ending to another example of all hype ,all talk, and no action.

called it like so many others. too bad. show us what you came on the show for or leave out the marriage thing all together. i'm with Mcfayden, they are phoneys. we shall see down the road when they quietly break up and fade into obscurity.
"RE: dont you just love happy endings....."
Posted by nancydotslash on 09-21-03 at 10:08 AM
>it actually turned out pretty much
>as i expected it.

Yes it did. I decided we were all being put on about halfway through, and the whole thing would fizzle, and that is what occurred.
>
>I am glad they didn't get
>married...it would have been forced
>and tacky.
The whole show was forced and tacky. It just didn't work.

>Whether they do
>get married in the future
>is not really the issue.
>Its that they are going
>to try and be together
>like a normal couple and
>plan out their future instead
>of being forced to live
>it.
I don't believe that they are going to do that, they will each end up going their separate ways after a little time. I can't see them together. It looked fake to me, when they supposedly were being loving with one another. Just my own opinion here.

>I commend Hank for
>turning down the million dollars.
>It really says alot about
>him. And he looked so
>damn cute.

It says that he didn't intend to follow through with the premise of the show. It says that he really wasn't ready to get married. It says they were phoney and not in love, just "performing".
And this is just my opinion here, but he is not cute, he looks like a hick.
>
>The only thing I didn't like
>was how corny the whole
>wedding thing was set up
>and then he said no.
>I wish they had of
>just come back from the
>break and they had both
>announced it together. Like it
>was something they had already
>decided on and didn't want
>to fool anyone.

I agree with you here.

>Brian should
>be fired for the comment
>"dont you owe it to
>america to get married?".

No way. He had a right to voice his opinion, and his reaction was genuine surprise and disgust that the show's premise was not being honored. He probably felt duped like I did, and in addition he was a part of the whole phoney thing, --put yourself in his place.

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by Bunny123 on 09-17-03 at 08:46 AM
I thought the ending turned out very good. I agree that they have found each other and need to explore their relationship off camera. I hope they are very happy together, and I think it is great that they turned down the money because they did not want to cheapen the relationship.

It looked like they discussed this ahead of time because Lisa did not seem to be surprised at Hank's decision.

I wanted a happy ending but also an honest ending. I hope they do get married someday.

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by PIPPIE on 09-17-03 at 09:17 AM
OH PULLEASE!!!!!!!!!

you wanted an honest ending? well, do you realize you just got jerked around? along with the rest of America.
"RE: The Finale"
Posted by Bunny123 on 09-17-03 at 10:21 AM
Jerked around, I don't think so.

If they would have pulled a sham wedding and annulled it one week later then that would have been jerked around.

You are just negative and wants everyone to feel just as negative as you. Why did you watch the show if you want to say bad things?

When I started watching the show I didn't think they would get married anyway. That is a serious decision that deserves more than 10 weeks of dating 10 different people.

I think they made the right decision and will be happy together.

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by PIPPIE on 09-17-03 at 06:47 PM
they made the right decsion because it will never last.
"RE: The Finale"
Posted by Cupidcruiser on 09-17-03 at 07:24 PM
They will NEVER be a couple--they won't date, they won't get engaged, they won't get married. They don't care for each other that much. Hank was the best of the bunch as far as Lisa was concerned but for both of them there are many many more fish in the sea.
"RE: The Finale"
Posted by WhyDoIWatchThisStuff on 09-17-03 at 11:48 AM
I wonder why it was such a surprise to the host. If they had discussed not going through with the wedding previously, and I agree it seems like they did, then the producers would know about it. They managed to decipher every last word this couple had together! Did they ever have alone time without the cameras?

So I think the producers must have known and decided that it would make better television to let it all play out the way it did. I for one loved how it ended.

"Looks like a bit of backpeddling going on to me"
Posted by TheDigable on 09-17-03 at 09:43 AM
LAST EDITED ON 09-17-03 AT 09:43 AM (EST)

All week it was

"Hank loves lisa. Lisa loves Hank. They should get married. It will be so beautiful. I'm ready for the wedding! Good luck to them. It's real love."


Today it seems more of a

"It's good they didn't get married. They need time to really get to know one another. I am glad they didn't get married"


Sheep....baa....baa....

Do I really have to label them? You know who you are.

"Agree 100%"
Posted by Wacko Jacko on 09-17-03 at 10:20 AM
Debacle.
"RE: Looks like a bit of backpeddling going on to me"
Posted by Cupidcruiser on 09-17-03 at 10:37 AM
Hmmm, sheep beanie babies....
"RE: Looks like a bit of backpeddling going on to me"
Posted by HappyDayz on 09-17-03 at 10:49 AM
LOL...that's what I like about you CC, you're always thinking!

Did you go to that same street school Renda went to? 'Cause your ideas are way better!

"RE: Looks like a bit of backpeddling going on to me"
Posted by Cupidcruiser on 09-17-03 at 07:26 PM
You can be my partner--when I saw the term "backpeddling" in the subject line I thought hey, if there's any peddling going on I want in on it!
"RE: Looks like a bit of backpeddling going on to me"
Posted by TheDigable on 09-17-03 at 09:33 PM
Ya know....it just might work.

"RE: Looks like a bit of backpeddling going on to me"
Posted by Corie161 on 09-17-03 at 11:02 AM
It seems to me that the anti Hank people would be stating a different story too if there actually was a wedding. Now it's he was chicken and blah, blah, but if there was a wedding than they would be calling him a money hungry jerk. It's a no win situation for him in my opinion.

I would have been fine with the outcome, either way, if they got married or waited. I think they have a chance of making it.

Corrine

"RE: Looks like a bit of backpeddling going on to me"
Posted by PIPPIE on 09-17-03 at 06:16 PM
Yes, you are sssoooooooooooo right!!
BLAH, BLAH, BLAH,BLAH,BLAH,BLAH,BLAH,BLAH,BLAH,BLAH,BLAH,BLAH
"RE: The Finale"
Posted by djk on 09-17-03 at 10:07 AM
I think the wedding setup was really corny. I wish they would have done that different, but the rest of the show was great!

I loved the house scene too. Was it just me, or did Evan seem a lot more relaxed and carefree? Maybe he really was relieved that Lisa had chosen Hank!

I wonder if Lisa and Hank discussed the ending when they had their last one on one time? Lisa asked Robert what he would do if he was the last man standing. I wonder if she asked Hank that, and we just didn't get to see so the suspense would be there.

One last thought, Paul's hair looked much better!!

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by Swami on 09-17-03 at 12:18 PM
>>I think the wedding setup was really corny. I wish they would have done that different, but the rest of the show was great!<<

I agree. I was not at all disappointed with most of the final show (loved the bachelor house scenes!), or the final outcome, but the wedding set-up was terribly heavy-handed and very poorly hosted. I'll repeat my comments from Darylg's 'Vote Off Brian' thread here...

"I lay the blame for turning the last 10 minutes of the show into a debacle squarely at Brian's feet. As a host, he never connected emotionally with Lisa, the guys or the viewing audience. He was smug & arrogantly disconnected throughout--a very wrong presentation for this show, IMO.

An empathetic host could have helped Hank (especially Hank who had no idea what to say) and Lisa better express their reasons for not getting married on the air. A better host could have made the final ending into a triumph of 'love' instead of a defensive, rationalizing debacle. For goodness sake, you idiot--help them thank the viewers! Make them feel good & positive! Lisa found a guy she can love, and they both turned down a million bucks so they could have a "normal" wedding ceremony! Make that classy, not a crass dis of the viewing audience.

Where is Regis Philbin when you need him?"


IceCat is a Genius

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by bubbastan on 09-18-03 at 00:43 AM
Well stated, Swami. I'm wayyy late getting to this party, and pretty much everything's been said, but I think your post sums it up most concisely.
"RE: The Finale"
Posted by Joyful on 09-17-03 at 06:52 PM
>One last thought, Paul's hair looked
>much better!!

I thought Paul looked so different! When they did the wide shot of all the booted guys, I was like "who's that guy in the back?"
And when they focused on Paul I was shocked, his face looks so thin! I didn't remember him looking that thin on the show. Maybe it was just due to the haircut, but I thought it was strange.


"RE: The Finale"
Posted by ashleybfogg on 09-17-03 at 10:22 PM
Rumor has it, Paul's in LOVE!


ashlet

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by PIPPIE on 09-17-03 at 07:00 PM
Evan was looking pretty darn good................
"RE: The Finale"
Posted by ashleybfogg on 09-17-03 at 07:13 PM
ah 'lil pippie
You LOVE Him...
pippie & evan

i still see those two... pippie and evan teeniebeaniebabies -
with their names IN CAPS on their little shirts. Thanks for all the posts, kiddo, you always bring a SMILE You gave me a grin so I felt like
saying howdy one last time.
PEACE

ashlet

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by PIPPIE on 09-17-03 at 09:44 PM
Dearest Ashlet,

i had many a laugh,even when chastised. i enjoyed your postings and cupidcruiser's and snookie's and swami's and so many others who had some fun and some clarity for what was entertainment.

You, especially made me smile.

i wish Evan a wonderful woman in his life.

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by Cupidcruiser on 09-17-03 at 10:05 PM
Pippie I'm glad you had fun with our fake battle over caps--you are a very funny person!
"RE: The Finale"
Posted by PIPPIE on 09-18-03 at 07:55 PM
Thanx CC!

Ditto to you! catch you on the survivor board!

"Debacle"
Posted by Wacko Jacko on 09-17-03 at 10:19 AM
What is wrong with you people???

The show was a debacle. First Lisa comes right out and says that she don't care who the people pick - she picks Hank so the voting was going to go for Hank no matter what. That killed the fun for me because the suspense was gone. Especially after the other three guys gave consession speeches afterwards.

Then last night...what a scam. Lisa and Hank both knew the show was about a competition with America picking the one that Lisa was to marry. That person, the winner, was to do it on the last show and they would get a million bucks. Lisa got who she wanted and Hank who acted like he really wanted Lisa (or was it to win - is he any different than Joe?) got what he wanted. So the wedding was supposed to happen in front of America - afterall isn't that what they signed up for?????? They pulled the wool over all of our eyes and we are the suckers for watching this crap.

Someone mentioned that McFayden was out of line saying that comment about you knew what you signed up for. Come on! It was true. I really think it was Hank's excuse for not getting married - he had cold feet. The girls knocked Dominic for not being ready (at 22) - Hank is only 25 and was no darn different than Dominic. And when I think of it did it really matter who won this thing? If Robert won, it would be the same darn outcome. So why did I watch?

You want another season of this crap. It will never happen because there are too many loop holes in the concept. I would never put myself thru watching this again. Hank and Lisa just put a nail in the Cupid coffin.

I am extremely disappointed in this show and if you buy the lame excuse by Hank to not get married I will sell you some swamp land that I own.

Hank and Lisa what did you sign up for?????

Never again.

"RE: Debacle"
Posted by Corie161 on 09-17-03 at 11:07 AM
>
>First Lisa comes right out
>and says that she don't
>care who the people pick
>- she picks Hank so
>the voting was going to
>go for Hank no matter
>what. That killed the
>fun for me because the
>suspense was gone. Especially
>after the other three guys
>gave consession speeches afterwards.
>
Not necessarily, over the course of the show, she was obviously surprised that Robert was not in the bottom 3 and can't believe what America was doing, yet they still did because he was never in the bottom 3, why would it have been any different this time around.
"RE: Debacle"
Posted by kcstrip on 09-17-03 at 11:35 AM
>Not necessarily, over the course of
>the show, she was obviously
>surprised that Robert was not
>in the bottom 3 and
>can't believe what America was
>doing, yet they still did
>because he was never in
>the bottom 3, why would
>it have been any different
>this time around.

So you admit it! Robert made the show interesting. In fact, Robert was the only interesting thing about the show. Why wouldn't it any different a second time around. Because I doubt if the anti-cupid watchers (who no doubt made up a large chunk of the shows tiny audience) will want to sit through this crap again even if they can decide the outcome. The fact that CBS only devoted an hour to this show's finale just shows you how much faith they have in this concept so I doubt if they will do it again.

"RE: Debacle"
Posted by Corie161 on 09-17-03 at 03:12 PM
>So you admit it! Robert made
>the show interesting. In
>fact, Robert was the only
>interesting thing about the show.
> Why wouldn't it any
>different a second time around.
> Because I doubt if
>the anti-cupid watchers (who no
>doubt made up a large
>chunk of the shows tiny
>audience) will want to sit
>through this crap again even
>if they can decide the
>outcome. The fact that
>CBS only devoted an hour
>to this show's finale just
>shows you how much faith
>they have in this concept
>so I doubt if they
>will do it again.


Huh????? Since when did I say that Robert didn't make the show interesting? You just all over me about admitting it, when I never said anything about him. Did I like him and want him to win, no, did he make the show interesting and most of all entertaining? Yes, anyone who acts as as retarded as Rahbut has to make life interesting.

What I meant about the second time around is not a second Cupid but the original poster said there was no suspense. To me there was suspense, because if America had the nerve to vote Rahbut in all the other times, then who know what could have happened. I do not believe that she would have accepted a proposal from him.

I'd like to know what makes everyone an expert on CBS's ideas. Who knows if they will do another Cupid, who cares...I would much rather sit through a humorous Cupid than anther Joe Millionaire!

Corrine

"My Point"
Posted by Wacko Jacko on 09-17-03 at 04:38 PM
If the audience picked Hank: Lisa and Hank don't get married.
If the audience picked Robert: Lisa and Robert don't get married. And she coudl still date Hank just as she supposedly is now.

Lisa could say take 'your pick" and stick it I want Hank instead.

So what does it matter if we voted Hank, Robert, Dom, Evan, etc.

It don't because Lisa didn't take the million dollars ever way.

The reality Lisa probably could careless who we picked which makes the whole darn show pointless. So why did we get that speech about how she wanted to be with Hank...again pointless - whole show was pointless.

"RE: Debacle"
Posted by kcstrip on 09-18-03 at 01:58 PM
>Huh????? Since when did I say
>that Robert didn't make the
>show interesting? You just
>all over me about admitting
>it, when I never said
>anything about him.

And I never said you did say anything about him. I was being sarcastic. Get a grip will ya!


>What I meant about the second
>time around is not a
>second Cupid but the original
>poster said there was no
>suspense. To me there
>was suspense, because if America
>had the nerve to vote
>Rahbut in all the other
>times, then who know what
>could have happened. I
>do not believe that she
>would have accepted a proposal
>from him.

And what I meant is the only reason why there was that suspense was because of the watchers who hated the show and voted for Robert as a joke. These people, myself included, won't watch a second time around, even if they could vote. So there would be no suspense. But there more than likely won't be a second time around because the ratings were crappy. It doesn't an "expert" on CBS shows to tell you that.

"RE: Debacle"
Posted by Noah Vale on 09-17-03 at 01:00 PM
I think that what Hank did made him a hero for privacy.
I would not expect a year in a media fishbowl would improve
the quality of their lives together.

To marry somebody for money is pretty much prostitution,
it would cheapen a real relationship. To a real love it
was only money.

As far as it being what they signed up for, opting out
IS part of the rules. No foul was called. CBS offered to
give them a million dollars to feed them to the likes of
of you, and they said "no thanks, we're done, good bye".

Hooray for them, I hope CBS doesn't make another sick
nickel off of their relationship from here on. It belongs
to them now. Wish them well. Let them go.

"RE: Debacle"
Posted by Wacko Jacko on 09-17-03 at 04:39 PM
Why did you watch this show???????
"RE: Debacle"
Posted by Noah Vale on 09-17-03 at 09:19 PM
>Why did you watch this show???????
>

My wife is into that crap. I keep her company.

Why did you use seven question marks?

Anyway, Hank and Lisa owed you nothing. It was up to the 'Tiffany Network' to live up to their own hype and they could have shown a little class. Blame them.

It is up to Hank and Lisa to live up to their own standards, and it seems they have some.

"RE: Debacle"
Posted by Joyful on 09-17-03 at 09:32 PM
>>Why did you watch this show???????
>>
>
>My wife is into that crap.
>I keep her company.
>
>Why did you use seven question
>marks?
>
>Anyway, Hank and Lisa owed you
>nothing. It was up to
>the 'Tiffany Network' to live
>up to their own hype
>and they could have shown
>a little class. Blame them.
>
>
>It is up to Hank and
>Lisa to live up to
>their own standards, and it
>seems they have some.

You are so right on about that! Why is it that everyone who posted that to get married on TV would be a sham and never last are the same people going on and on about how wrong it is that there was NOT a wedding? Hold your ground, I've got your back Noah Vale! (that name kinda has a superhero ring to it. You are not in fact...Batman are you?)

"RE: Debacle"
Posted by Wacko Jacko on 09-18-03 at 10:58 AM
I challenge you to find a place on the website where I said that.
"RE: Debacle"
Posted by PIPPIE on 09-17-03 at 06:28 PM
You Go WackoJacko!

it was a complete sham.....

it was blind dating cleaned up for prime-time.-

it was bait and hook the audience, but don't deliver the goods....

the premise of the show was to find lisa a husband and get married on tv. that is what was stated on every show, when all the time it was understood that that would not in reality happen!

we were led on the entire time....just like some of the guys were on their dates.

"RE: Debacle"
Posted by nancydotslash on 09-21-03 at 09:50 AM
>>The show was a debacle. First Lisa comes right out and says >that she don't care who the people pick - she picks Hank so >the voting was going to go for Hank no matter what.

Yes, I have to agree with you there. I guess this post will be lost in the shuffle by now, but I can't help saying that I agree, when Lisa said that, it was done. It screwed up the show premise.

>They pulled the wool over all of our eyes and we are the >suckers for watching this crap.

This is also true, IMHO. Now that I think the whole thing over, I have to believe that it was sort of about prostituting Lisa on TV, except that at the end it fizzles out. To me, the whole thing boiled down to a great big "put on" and we were gullible.

>Someone mentioned that McFayden was out of line saying that >comment about you knew what you signed up for. Come on! It was >true.

I concur. It was repeatedly brought up, that this is what the purpose and point of the show was all about. All the static about how "certain people including Hank, didn't really audition and were sought out", well, that still doesn't cancel out the fact that the show's premise was clearly stated to them.

> really think it was Hank's excuse for not getting married - >he had cold feet. The girls knocked Dominic for not being >ready (at 22) - Hank is only 25 and was no darn different than >Dominic.

You got that right!!

>And when I think of it did it really matter who won this >thing? If Robert won, it would be the same darn outcome. So >why did I watch?

Exactly. And I don't think she and Hank will be together, anymore than she and Robert would have. We were foolish to think any differently.

>...another season... It will never happen because there are >too many loop holes in the concept. I would never put myself >thru watching this again. Hank and Lisa just put a nail in the >Cupid coffin.

It think so too. And I think I was silly when I started watching and actually thought someone would end up falling in love and getting married. To me it was all an act.

>I am extremely disappointed in this show and if you buy the >lame excuse by Hank to not get married I will sell you some >swamp land that I own.

Right on.

>Hank and Lisa what did you sign up for?????

I don't know...exposure, maybe? I really can't see them together, they didn't seem that sincere and real about being attracted to each other, and it seems like a lot of what we saw was them kind of doing what they thought they were supposed to, as opposed to being natural.

Never again.

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by Griffin on 09-17-03 at 10:44 AM
Wow guess some of you missed Hanks little CONTROL FREAK LINES. The one where he says Lisa will not stay home with the kids, he will not be the only bread winner. This guy is total control freak, his personality at the house how he acted with the guys. You cannot belive him when he says oh iam only like this here crap.

I dont see this so called relationship lasting 6months, unless Lisa just sits there and takes it. Does what ever Hank wants, than again she lets her friends run her life too this point.

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by Corie161 on 09-17-03 at 11:04 AM
Gee, I guess I did miss that line...when was it said? Last night? Someone please clarify.

Corrine

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by toodles on 09-17-03 at 01:58 PM
When Hank said he wanted Lisa to work, he was complimenting her intelligence - too bad I do not have the direct quote because it was very obvious.

How can you call someone a "total control freak" using one example (one that misses Hank's point, anyway)?

I don't know, but the people who dislike Hank so vehemently seem to have watched a different show than the rest of us. People are so quick to point the finger and embellish on the smallest things. I guess I also just don't understand the point of disliking someone so much when you do not even know them. Other guys bothered me, personally, but I don't see the point of ripping on them and being so negative.

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by HappyDayz on 09-17-03 at 02:14 PM
He told her her brain was one of the best things about her. Then he said if they got married and had kids she would have to be a breadwinner too (which was said in a joking type way, everyone laughed, including Lisa and Hank). He told her these things in response to her Dad not looking pleased by her saying she would not want her job when she had kids.
"RE: The Finale"
Posted by Joyful on 09-17-03 at 02:30 PM
>I don't know, but the people
>who dislike Hank so vehemently
>seem to have watched a
>different show than the rest
>of us. People are so
>quick to point the finger
>and embellish on the smallest
>things. I guess I also
>just don't understand the point
>of disliking someone so much
>when you do not even
>know them. Other guys bothered
>me, personally, but I don't
>see the point of ripping
>on them and being so
>negative.


I agree toodles. It does surprise me that people who so obviously hate the show and the people on it waste their precious time with it. They watch, they voted, they post, all about something they claim they can't stand. (maybe Robert wasn't the only delusional one).
Hank and Lisa are together, that's all we Hank fans really wanted. Maybe they won't be together forever, but then again maybe they will. I believe they have just as much a chance at making it then anyone who starts a relationship. And the fact they didn't rush into a marriage just because it was expected of them is a step in the right direction.

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by passiondotcom on 09-17-03 at 03:27 PM
To the people who wanted to see a wedding no matter WHAT, I guess I'm wondering what ever happened to the idea that marriage is for life? (I know I sound old-fashioned) Lisa and Hank did the right thing. To just jump in and get married doesn't send a very good message. It's almost as if it's a disposable thing that can be disolved if they don't like each other (remember that stupid show with Darva Congers....)


To everyone else who feels like they wasted their time, I say this wasn't brain surgery- just an entertaining show for those of us who love romance! Give it a rest!!!

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by Wacko Jacko on 09-17-03 at 04:48 PM
Are you a friend of lisa or hanks?

The show was Lisa's friends pick guys who date Lisa and then America picks who Lisa should marry. This did not happen so the whole show was a debacle. And to prove it was a debacle they will never have another season of this show. What happened yesterday killed the show for sure - if the bad ratings didn't already. And I gotta give those smarter than I (those who did not get sucked in) some credit for not wasting their Tuesday nights like me.

I ask you if America picked Robert would the outcome been any different than it was if they picked Hank? Lisa would of turned down Robert and dated Hank after the show anyways. So it didn't matter if you called 1000 times to vote for Hank - same results either way. The show was a sham.

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by Joyful on 09-17-03 at 05:51 PM
<I ask you if America picked Robert would the outcome been any different than it was if they picked Hank? Lisa would of turned down Robert and dated Hank after the show anyways. So it didn't matter if you called 1000 times to vote for Hank - same results either way. The show was a sham. >


Are you saying that Lisa should have been forced to marry either Robert or Hank against her better judgment just because it was on TV?
I think what she expected to get out of this and what she really got are two totally different things. I think she went into it thinking she would have a 3-month all expenses paid vacation, a chance to get to know a bunch of really cool guys, a chance to be on TV, and ultimately a chance at a million dollars.
What she found was a person she could really grow to love and spend a lifetime with. After that all the other stuff wasn't as important anymore, not the show, not the voting, nothing. She saw a chance to build the foundation of a true and lasting relationship with Hank outside of the public eye and she took it.
And her plea to America to make Hank the winner was as much for Robert as anyone else. If he had won the poor guy would have been eviscerated once again on national TV when Lisa would refuse to marry him. He is daft enough to really believe that she would marry him. Like you, he thought if America says jump, then they have to jump (even if it's off a steep cliff called misery)
Just because we watched, just because we voted, just because they both signed on to do the show and knew what was coming, all of that does not mean they are obligated to do something they feel isn't right and cheapens the depth of feelings they have discovered for each other and neither of them expected to have.

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by Silvergirl1 on 09-17-03 at 07:42 PM

Thank you, Joyful. I agree with everything you've said.

I don't know if Lisa really expected to find her Mr. Right when she signed up for this show. I think that she and Hank have so much more to learn about each other and it would be wrong to have had the wedding.

I think the show is about finding love, and I think some of the guys in the final 10 were into it for the money, and they wouldn't have minded marrying a good looking woman at the same time.

I hope that Lisa and Hank can make a good decision, to marry or not, while seeing each other under normal dating circumstances.

Silvergirl

Anyone want to clam up with me?

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by TheDigable on 09-19-03 at 04:36 PM

>I think the show is about
>finding love...

ummm...no...the show was about her AGREEING to marry someone at the end of the show...


She signed up for it. If I was CBS, I would have sued the crap outta her and Frank...damn...he's so forgettable. I meant Hank.

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by Silvergirl1 on 09-21-03 at 05:53 PM
>
>>I think the show is about
>>finding love...

Yep, that's my opinion, as prefaced by the words "I think", and I'm sticking to it.

>ummm...no...the show was about her AGREEING to marry someone at the end of the show...

That's your opinion and you're welcome to it. Someday you might even GET.OVER.IT.

>She signed up for it. If I was CBS, I would have sued the crap outta her and Frank...damn...he's so forgettable.

If you were CBS, you'd have lawyers who would remind that you don't have a leg to stand on and can't sue Lisa and Hanky Panky.

Does this mean you won't be watching Cupid 2? Ummm... NO!

(Again my opinion, but I forgot to say, I'm thinking NO.)

Silvergirl

Opinions are like ______s, everyone has one.

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by Wacko Jacko on 09-18-03 at 11:01 AM
What did she sign up for?

She agreed to the shows premise and did not follow thru. What a bunch of garbage.

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by PIPPIE on 09-17-03 at 06:56 PM
Dear WackoJacko,

uh-huh!!! yeah!!! that's right!!!!!!

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by bubbastan on 09-18-03 at 00:59 AM
LAST EDITED ON 09-18-03 AT 01:01 AM (EST)

Toodles, there may be some folks here who are pretty outspoken in their dislike for Hank, but there are also a lot of us who really enjoyed watching him and thought he was a class act. I think that the Hank supporters outnumbered the detractors overall, since he did end up winning.

I don't understand where folks are coming up with the whole "controlling" thing either. I personally sure didn't see anything about his behavior that remotely pointed in that direction. I think he's a warm, focused, mature man who is going to make a wonderful husband, whether to Lisa eventually, or to someone else.

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by PIPPIE on 09-17-03 at 06:41 PM
Hi Griffin,

we saw those tendencies too and tried to warn her but now she will have to find out for herself.....think he did it for the competion. he said himself that he was a very competive person. does anyone know an options trader that isn't.

actually, he didn't look so happy yesterday,or today on the Today show. looks like the bloom is already coming off the rose.

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by PIPPIE on 09-17-03 at 06:43 PM
oops, wrong spelling. don't want the masses to pick up on THAT!

competition/competitive

"Current Opinions"
Posted by Sophie on 09-17-03 at 04:39 PM
Though I do like Hank and Lisa together and loved Hank's reason for not marrying her. I do admit that the "loves to see a trainwreck show" part of me was disappointed in no wedding. Now it feels like every other dating show where the lovey dovey couple break up after a month in the real world. The Hopeless Romantic in me so wants it to work out and for them to live happily ever after. I guess we'll see.
However, no matter what happens, I would watch Cupid again. I liked the premise of the show with the themed dates and all of these hilarious guys.
Not to mention Laura and Kim.


"Me too"
Posted by bubbastan on 09-18-03 at 01:10 AM
Sophie, just chiming in to say that your post pretty much sums up how I feel about the whole thing. Thanks for starting this thread.
"Reality TV World article (by AyaK)"
Posted by LoftStory on 09-18-03 at 12:52 PM
(I would post this under message 29., but I'm afraid it will get lost in the shuffle.) (If anyone still cares!)

Forgive me if this has been posted elsewhere, but I didn't see it in any of the other topics.

This website's article about the finale http://www.realitytvworld.com/index/articles/story.php?s=1758 says (in part) that
" . . . unlike all of the other men on the show, Hank did not audition to be on a TV show ending in a wedding. Instead, according to the Ft. Myers (FL) News-Press, Hank was spotted working out in a gym and was asked to join the show. Perhaps that's also why he was the person that Lisa and Laura preferred."

Perhaps that's also why he wasn't interested in the money.

I'm just throwing this out in response to the posts that argued that Hank knew what he was in for and what the show was all about, so if he didn't want to get married on TV, why did he do it, etc.
Granted, he still chose to go along with it, but he didn't seek it out.
It's just a factor to consider.

"RE: Reality TV World article (by AyaK)"
Posted by Cupidcruiser on 09-18-03 at 02:03 PM
The statement "unlike all the other men on the show" is not true (I know it was in the article but I think it was misinterpreted by the reporter). I would say that over half of the men in the top ten were "spotted" just like Hank was. Dominic for sure was (there is an article on SirLinksalot from his college's paper where his roommie notes if HE had been at work instead of Dom when the producers came by he might have been on the show), and if anyone has the tape of the second show, there are about four guys at the end in California who seem to be auditioning but they are not in front of the women--Evan is one of them. I have a feeling the producers handpicked ahead of time the guys who were telegenic, personable, etc., etc., and then "helped" them get picked during the auditions.

I'm just throwing this out because the guys all went into it for whatever reason but Hank is not the only one who did not seek it out and so AyaK's supposition that maybe the girls preferred him because of what was in that article cannot true--they did prefer him but his age, job history, and demeanor were probably the factors for that preference.

"RE: Reality TV World article (by AyaK)"
Posted by ashleybfogg on 09-18-03 at 03:32 PM
Yes! and I don't know the number, but a few (as well as Lisa) were contacted from their Survivor tapes (I don't know how many of those made it in). There was also an open call (posted in Variety) that took place before the 'so called' open audition in LA. The girls actually saw a lot guys that had been screened several times, called in and coached.

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"RE: Reality TV World article (by AyaK)"
Posted by TheDigable on 09-19-03 at 04:39 PM
Granted, he still chose to go
along with it...


Exactly...

"RE: The Finale"
Posted by nancydotslash on 09-20-03 at 01:40 AM
I agree that it seemed that Hank was really the only contestant on there that was sincere, and he came across as a really nice guy. (Thus I was glad he won.) But he also IMHO looks like such a farmer. He bothered me, he just looks so countrified or something. ick. Where I live, there are a lot of "cowboys" and cowboy wannabe's, and he looks just like that. Ewwwwwww. Not classy looking at all!!!! He doesn't come across as in the same league as Lisa.