How many of you think it wasn't Ed's job but insecurity that made him leave?
As much as I love Jake, I think Ed had the inside track, especially if Wes is found out for the jerk he is.IMHO, Ed was looking for the guarantee from Jillian, but she couldn't give it to him, it was too soon since she has feelings for other guys as well as Ed.
But the big thing is I can't believe Wes has Jillian snowed the way he does.If the promos are correct, Wes is soon to go,but he's looking ty do it on his own terms, with a record contract in his back pocket.I don't know about you but the only way Wes has a cd coming out is if he's doing it on his own, as in vanity press. If he had any true talent he would have more in his repetoire than that one song he's been beating to death.

So Jillian, wake up, boot Wes, dry your tears and cut everyone but Kipton & Jake since those are my picks for the Final 2.

• RE: Ed, the fool and Wes the *ss,true, 11:02 AM, 06-16-09
  • This season's different,CSHS79, 12:10 PM, 06-16-09
    • RE: This season's different,true, 02:18 PM, 06-16-09
      • RE: This season's different,qwertypie, 04:25 PM, 06-16-09
      • Non-performance,CSHS79, 09:05 AM, 06-17-09
  • RE: Ed, the fool and Wes the *ss,Loree, 03:04 PM, 06-16-09
• RE: Ed, the fool and Wes the *ss,Farmie, 02:05 PM, 06-16-09
• RE: Ed, the fool and Wes the *ss,Loree, 03:10 PM, 06-16-09
  • Ed the one who had a girlfriend?,CSHS79, 04:31 PM, 06-16-09
    • RE: Ed the one who had a girlfriend?,realitytvviewr, 04:54 PM, 06-16-09
      • Real or publicity,CSHS79, 06:12 PM, 06-16-09
        • RE: Real or publicity,woiwod, 10:40 PM, 06-17-09
      • RE: Ed the one who had a girlfriend?,Carezy, 02:10 PM, 06-23-09
        • RE: Ed the one who had a girlfriend?,tokei2, 11:50 AM, 06-29-09
          • RE: Ed the one who had a girlfriend?,Carezy, 07:57 PM, 06-29-09
• RE: Ed, the fool and Wes the *ss,Loree, 10:27 AM, 06-23-09
  • RE: Ed, the fool and Wes the *ss,qwertypie, 06:53 PM, 06-23-09

I thought it was a bit selfish of Jillian to expect Ed to quit his job for a 1 in 10 chance at being chosen. Even if he is chosen, the odds of it really lasting are pretty slim. I get why Jillian would give up a job to star in the show, she is guaranteed to make it to the end. For her to compare her sacrifice to Ed's is really unfair.

If the promos are correct, Wes is soon to go

I must have seen a different promo, because I heard Wes making it to the fantasy suite date. Isn't that final 3 or 4?

I thought it was wierd that she gave Mark a rose last week at the 2/1 date, and dropped him the very next week with little explaination about what changed.

I really thought Tanner would have gone before now. It's clear they have no chance toghether. I guess Jillian is keeping him around for the gossip sessions.

No way she picks Jake, IMO. He seems like a nice guy, but she's made it clear that he is not her type.

LAST EDITED ON 06-17-09 AT 08:53 AM (EST)

In the past Fantasy Suite time was the FINAL 3, FINAL 4 IS HOME TOWNs and they've never spent time in the Bachelor's or Bachelorette's home town until Final 2. So it appears there is differences this time.

As to cutting Mark, he was sweet but there was no way he was going to the Finals. I just didn't see why Jillian didn't just cut Mark and Mike last week since there was no way either would be in the Finale. After all could you believe how sloppy Mark was last night,he had on a sport coat but his shirt was totally untucked. Casual is one thing, but he was downright sloppy.

Regarding Ed,I think what upset Jillian is that she felt Ed didn't consider all the ramifications of coming on the show.If Ed had left earlier, she might not taken it as hard as she did since she'd grown attached to him.

As to Jake,perhaps he still there since she's weighing her past with what could make her happy. After all, if she alway went for a certain type and yet she's still single maybe in her mind she needs to give a different type a chance. Maybe that's why Jake is still there, since she's uncertain whether she should go for the kind of guy she's always gone for or a different kind of guy. she's obviously trying to be open minded.

All I know is that if Jillian doesn't want Jake, I'll take him since he may not be her type but he's definitely mine, if he likes older women.

In closing, you may say these reality show romances don't generally last. While that's true, there is always the chance, if you truly want it to to and are willing to work at it, for it to be something wonderful. After all, without risk, thereis no possiblity of any reward.

You have a point about the hometown thing, however, none of the bachelors met her family, and that is usually the whole point of the hometown dates. I think they went to Vancouver early this season because Jillian is Canadian, and it makes sense for her to be in her home country where she is most comfortable.

I'd be suprised if Fantasy Suite dates happen with more than a few left. I can't imagine her spending the night with all 9 left, or even 5. She should certainly know if she has potential enough for an overnight date by now! Even though the editing makes her appear conflicted and confused, (as they do every season) I am sure that she could safely narrow her choices down to 2 or 3 at the most. I best she could have narrowed it down that much on the first night.

The preview that hints that one of they guys can't "perform" on an overnight date HAS to be misleading. If not...ick.

Maybe the non-performance means one of the guys drinks so much that he pukes in the toilet and/or passes out. Or gets food poisoning. Or it's Wes and she finally realizes he doesn't have any talent.

The promo about the so called nonperformance had Chris and Jillian talking about a problem in the intimacy between Jillian and the unnamed Bachelor. Intimacy doesn't always mean sex, although most people are talking about sex when they speak of intimacy. Perhaps the "problem" is that once the two of them were truly alone the chemistry that used to be there fizzled and things were awkward. I know I'd be disappointed if I was all alone with a guy I was attracted to and the chemistry we seemed to have when we were in public wasn't there when we alone.

Chris H says in his blog that Jillian wished she had sent both Mike and Mark home last week on the 2:1 date. She really regretted keeping Mark. They have nothing in common. That is why he went this week.

Wes is said to get a Hometown Date but that is as far as he goes. He does not make the finale.

Kipton and Jake have been my favorites since the beginning but I'm starting to like Reid and Jesse too.

Farmie

According to TV Guide Jillian goes from 8 guys down to 5. Then 5 get hometown dates this season. I guess it is because they started with 30.

This is a bit of a spoiler...

HELLO magazine in Canada has posted photos of Jillian with Ed in Hawaii where the finale is. So Ed will definitely be back. I guess our clue was that he kept the rose. And Chris keeps talking about something happening that has never happened before. A person left and returns.

Could it be that Ed really left to break up with a girlfreind? It is possible that once things got serious enough with Jillian he felt he needed to end things with his current girlfriend. It is in some ways honorable but in other ways snaky, as in he wouldn't commit to dropping his current girlfriend unless he had Jillian on the hook.

All I know is I want Wes gone soon,since he is the sleaziest guy around. Wes makes my skin crawl worse than David did by the time he left.

Wes grosses me out too. Talk about how sloppy Mark looked, how about Wes' coat? He looked like he pulled it out of a trash bag he was going to send to good will. The best he's looked all season was when he was covered up in snow gear and wearing a knit hat that covered his chicken hairstyle.

It was quite obvious that Ed would be back so I'm not surprised to hear he was spotted with Jillian. He shouldn't have come on the show if he wasn't ok with missing 6 weeks of work so I don't buy the story about his boss calling. It's not like they didn't know that when they signed up.

Question is could this be part of the Finale or could it be another Bachelor Alumni gathering like they had in Vegas? The proof of who Jillian chooses will be in the viewing of the Finale and not before.
So we can speculate all we want to, I intend to keep watching, all in the hopes that Jillian winds up with a good guy and it lasts unlike past Bachelor/Bachelorettes relationships.

I really like Mike, he is lots of fun and she wants someone who is fun. Either him or Jake would be my preference.

I completely disagree about coming on the show if you can't take 6 weeks off of work. If he was in a position where he is high up in his company and needs to be consulted on a big job (bids for more business or keeping business), then I can understand why he would leave. A 1 in 8 chance with a girl, or securing your job?? He'll come back anyway, but I think it shows responsability that he left. In a tough economy, one would not only want to keep their job, they would also want to help their business gain or maintain clients.

Whether or not he took all 6 weeks off for the show, I don't think it's terrible that he left for work. I think it means that he's important, and I respect that.

That's just my opinion though.

What is the love affair with Ed??? The more I think about his situation the more I am convinced that it was NOT his boss that called but a girlfriend. He knew from the beginning how long he might be gone from work and that time off would have to have been understood and approved by his boss before he left. On the off chance that he WAS needed, why all of a sudden can he take more time off to come back to the show? And if the job was important enough for him to leave, the only other option was that he quit to come back. Sorry...doesn't make sense to me. It was another woman. If that is the case, he's as much of a snake as Wes is.
Jake didn't have a chance to show Jillian that he is not perfect..HTDs would give her more insight to who he really is. We'll see. Just because they don't show him in the sc's doesn't mean he isn't back. The producers want to hold on to something til the end. AND just because Jake tells Jillian that he's not there to get her back, doesn't mean she doesn't have a change of heart where he's concerned after opening her eyes more with the Wes situation. That makes him a tattletaler...not Mr. Perfect. Oh no! Crap...I just keep coming up with different scenarios...Thank goodness I don't see Wes in any of them. But anyone thought about Robby coming back? She was pretty upset when he left, too. Whoever the mystery guy is, they aren't going to show him to you in the screen caps...that would spoil the spoiler, don't ya think? LOL

Love affair?? I was just saying that I understand why he would leave IF IT WAS for work. He wasn’t even my favorite this season. I liked Jake the most at the beginning, then Mark (so hot), and now I think I’m torn. We’ll see after tonight…

Anyway, my point was that in this economy, one would want to keep their job. Who knows who knew he was going on the show. WE DON’T KNOW. It happens with all reality shows, we don't know their situations. HOPEFULLY, we will find out the real reason, if it isn't work. HECK, maybe the producers wanted another "never done before in the history of the show" situation.

AND I would've LOVED to see Jake's HTD. If he could just relax and show her he can be at ease in his own environement, maybe she could've felt more for him. BUT I think it was the right thing for her to do if she didn't see a future with him (and felt more with the other guys). That way he isn't AS hopeful that he's the F1 and his family doesn't also get pulled in. While I would like to see Jake find love, I don't think it'll be with Jillian...

OH BTW, has anyone checked out the website F.O.R.T.??

OMG Wes is in screencaps in Spain. Even after Jake warns her she keeps Wes another week. Luckily there is no proof he ever gets to Hawaii.

Kiptyn, Reid and Ed are all seen in screencaps in Hawaii. Nobody is sure what order the F3 finish though. This year is a mystery how it ends.

Yes the MOST. SHOCKING. BACHELORETTE. FINAL. EVER. /end sarcasm