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"Biggest Network/Producer Blunder"

Posted by SurvivorBlows on 01-10-02 at 11:00 PM
LAST EDITED ON 01-10-02 AT 11:29 PM (EST)

To be eligible, at least one episode of a show or series that aired during the 2001 calendar year on either broadcast or cable US television.

Nominate blunders by replying below and putting the blunder's name in the subject, followed by their show. Feel free to give nomination reasons in the message body.

This is NOT a discussion thread (please see the other forum for that.)


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"Third couple -- Love Cruise"
Posted by AyaK on 01-11-02 at 00:23 AM
Adding a third couple from Loser Island for the final vote.

"Ytossie and Taheed -- TI"
Posted by AyaK on 01-11-02 at 00:26 AM
Any children? Uhh ....

"Justin -- Big Brother 2"
Posted by AyaK on 01-11-02 at 00:26 AM
Have knife, will travel

"Shaved Heads/ Boot Camp"
Posted by shakes the clown on 01-11-02 at 01:22 AM
..one of the biggest problems viewers had with Boot Camp was the inability to tell one person from the next b/c everyone looked the same with the shaved heads. Sandy Grushow even acknowleded that it was a big problem with the show and that they would definitely change that if there was a BC2.


"Bad Casting/ Boot Camp"
Posted by shakes the clown on 01-11-02 at 01:23 AM
..the only interesting facet of this show was the Takedown rule, but because so many of these people were soo out of shape, we rarely got to see the rule used since so many people left because of injuries, quitting, or illness.

"Final TC - Survivor 2"
Posted by idiotcowboy on 01-11-02 at 02:37 AM
LAST EDITED ON 01-11-02 AT 07:46 PM (EST)

Edited to clarify...

The decision to do a live vote read, which resulted in the ridiculus supposed real-time helicopter fly-in (when it was already dark in LA!!!), and then two people I never saw before in my life claiming to be Colby and Tina really messed up the flow of the show and detracted from the ending.

Perhaps it would be better titled "The Final TC Vote Read in LA".


"More information, please"
Posted by AyaK on 01-11-02 at 02:39 PM
LAST EDITED ON 01-11-02 AT 10:18 PM (EST)

Do you mean because of the shift from the Outback to the studio (and the very visible shift in appearances, especially of filled-out and clean-shaven Colby)?

Or do you mean something else?

Edited to add: Thanks, ICB. You make a good point, especially when you take into consideration how hard MB worked to avoid a similarly jarring effect this time.


"Actually airing Murder in Small Town X"
Posted by bergdogg on 01-11-02 at 02:51 AM

"Scheduling Mole 2 on Friday night -- ABC"
Posted by AyaK on 01-11-02 at 03:53 AM

"Original tribal pairings -- Survivor 3"
Posted by AyaK on 01-11-02 at 02:41 PM
(from the original post by TechNoir: "The original tribal pairings forced Markie Mark to do a shakeup before the whole show sank.")

"the revised schedule for Love Cruise after 9/11/ FOX"
Posted by shakes the clown on 01-11-02 at 04:29 PM
...by putting the show on twice a week on varying days FOX was just asking for this show to fail. Plus, the first three shows went up against the following season premieres....Spin City, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Star Trek, Frasier.

In lieu of 9/11, the rigth thing to do would've been to table the show until a later date, either when TI2 was going to be on or this spring after TI2 is finished.


"The switch/ Survivor Africa"
Posted by shakes the clown on 01-11-02 at 04:33 PM
...in the end, it did nothing to prevent the inevitable pagonging and all it did do was eliminate strong contestants like Silas and Lindsey while at the same time adding life to those undeserving like MamaKim and Frank.

"Amazing Race-Rob and Brennan"
Posted by DarkAngel2 on 01-11-02 at 06:32 PM


The Amazing race producers did a good job in picking their contestants such as Festers, Guidos,Paul & Amy, Lenny & Karyn, Frank & Marg, and Nancy & Emily. All of them were interesting. However they made a mistake in picking Team Bore. The Vanilla Ice lawyers are cute but they have no personality. I think Rosie O'Donnell would agree with me.


"The Fruit Squeeze Challenge/Love Cruise"
Posted by true on 01-11-02 at 07:59 PM
By far, the dumbest challenge in reality tv, especially because it was to determine the final two couples.

"Elisabeth's vote appears to be Colby but is really Tina-S2"
Posted by BaquaR13 on 01-11-02 at 08:02 PM
Do you remember when it clearly looked as if Elisabeth voted for Colby by making a "C" but it turned out that her vote was cast for Tina? There was some footage in the web about it...

"Amazing Race/ No running clock"
Posted by shakes the clown on 01-12-02 at 02:45 AM
..this show would've been a lot easier to follow if they simply had a running clock on the screen at all times to tell us how far the different teams were behind the leader or ahead of the pack. Instead, the editing was confusing and it was impossible to get a firm grasp on what was going on with the race.

Honestly, it ruined the show for me.


"No running team cash total -- TAR"
Posted by AyaK on 01-12-02 at 02:50 AM
A constant theme in TAR was how teams needed to conserve money. Yet, since we never had any idea how much money they had, we had no idea whether they needed to conserve or were just dumb/cheap. The worst example was Team Guido in Thailand, when they thought the didn't have enough money to take a cab after winning the FF ... but they did have enough to pay for a hotel room for the night!

"Survivor 3's same challenges. "
Posted by DarkAngel2 on 01-12-02 at 09:45 PM

I hate it when Survivor producers recycle old challenges. The SOS, triva, and the pole challenges. That ruined the show for me.

"NBC aired Lost"
Posted by dabo on 01-12-02 at 10:15 PM
What could have been a neat Survivor-type contest instead turned out to just be a race to get home.

"Voting people off: Road Rules"
Posted by Jonnycumlately on 01-13-02 at 00:37 AM
Mark Burnett should really sue. And it STILL didn't make the show interesting.

"Popstars 2 on Thursdays"
Posted by Jonnycumlately on 01-13-02 at 00:40 AM
It's 8:00 pm. You have a choice to see Friends, Survivor 3 or Popstars 2. Gee, which one of these is gonna be the lowest rated?

"Pulling the Mole 2 after 3 episodes when people want to watch the rest"
Posted by realityluver on 01-16-02 at 10:25 AM

"Not catching Toni's bribe attempt on camera - Love Cruise"
Posted by Scarberian on 01-17-02 at 02:51 PM
LAST EDITED ON 01-17-02 AT 02:52 PM (EST)

...on camera and then trying to use editing to make it appear that Jeanette had simply misinterpreted Toni's aboard-ship comments about sharing prize money...

Edited: 'cause my subject heading was too long!


"The Rigging and scene staging of Manhunt"
Posted by shakes the clown on 01-17-02 at 04:27 PM
First, it was discovered that they rigged the running of the gauntlet to allow one of the female contestants to escape elimination. Then it was discovered that the cast was brought to an LA bird observatory several months after filming in order to create scenes that did NOT exist during the orginal filming. The producers wanted to add some drama to the show so they gave the contestants scripts with pre planned lines that would have some of the contestants fighting and arguing with each other. Of the contestants, only one refused to participate.

The only thing that kept this from being a huge genre shaking story was that the show was on the UPN (or WB, not sure now) so who really cares anyway besides the 10 people that watched.


"New couple and hos: Tempation Island II"
Posted by Jonnycumlately on 01-17-02 at 06:44 PM
It's hard to get to know people if they are only here for 1/2 or 1/3 of the episodes. BAD idea!

"Colby's challenge wins. S2"
Posted by volmel on 01-17-02 at 11:05 PM
Colby's plate was cracked in one challenge and his carabiner was briefly removed from the rope in another. These cast a pall over the whole Survivor 2 show, making people like Peter Lance question how fixed the show might have been.