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"TAR #16 Episode 12 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Estee on 05-09-10 at 07:45 PM
Please keep all sigpic-free discussion of the potentially nightmarish finishing order on this thread until 12:00 a.m. EDT, by which time the West Coast may have stopped screaming.

By the way, for those keeping count, this would be Sign Of The Apocalypse #6. (#5 is still being resolved every Thursday.)

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"RE: TAR #16 Episode 12 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by kidflash212 on 05-09-10 at 07:47 PM
At least it's starting on time.
"RE: TAR #16 Episode 12 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Estee on 05-09-10 at 07:56 PM
Are you trying to give Bloomie a challenge? Because he still has enough time to call a press conference. Don't you want to hear all about the new tax hikes?
"RE: TAR #16 Episode 12 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Estee on 05-09-10 at 08:04 PM
There was a very quick glimpse of the finish line during the recap -- Candlestick?
"RE: TAR #16 Episode 12 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 05-09-10 at 08:08 PM
Yep, they're off to San Francisco as their first clue from the pit stop in Shanghai.

Lesbians, lots of lesbians for Caite to deal with!

"RE: TAR #16 Episode 12 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Estee on 05-09-10 at 08:17 PM
Jordan noted that in general, it's a very gay-friendly city -- which flipsides to what Brent & Caite are rapidly learning: it's not that fond of homophobes.

Now, what did that one T-shirt of Michael's say...?

"What an asswipe..."
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 05-09-10 at 08:13 PM
Dan and Jordan arrive at the airport last, six hours after the other two teams. Jordan sees a small gap in the lineup between Caite and the cowboys, and decides that since it's wide enough for him to put his backpack down on, it makes him ahead of the cowboys in the lineup!
"RE: What an asswipe..."
Posted by kidflash212 on 05-09-10 at 09:04 PM
I did think that was petty, stupid and unnecessary.
"RE: What an asswipe..."
Posted by HistoryDetective on 05-09-10 at 09:50 PM
Yeah, especially for somebody who is such a big fan of the Race. The order for booking their tickets seemed like an unwritten rule. There was no need to stir the pot like that.
"RE: What an asswipe..."
Posted by blacknwhitedog on 05-10-10 at 12:39 PM
In my mind that was cheating and I wish the cowboys could have clocked the two of them!
"RE: What an asswipe..."
Posted by HistoryDetective on 05-10-10 at 01:48 PM
LAST EDITED ON 05-10-10 AT 01:49 PM (EST)

They were quite vocal that they wanted to. Resorting to violence when things did not go exactly their way seemed to be a recurring theme for this team.

edited to remove sig pic

"RE: TAR #16 Episode 12 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by ARnutz on 05-09-10 at 08:16 PM
Ha!

Brent/Caite have a cabbie who doesn't understand English! In San Fran!

"RE: TAR #16 Episode 12 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Estee on 05-09-10 at 08:20 PM
The Further Revenge Of The Disrespected T-Shirt Symbol.

The move into first-class was a decent one from Dan & Jordan -- but those seconds are very easy to lose again. Right now, one bad cabbie, one traffic delay, and the streets will determine this more than skill ever could.

Kind of weird to be that near the Golden Gate again: we had a finish line there before... and the flashbacks were not pleasant.

"RE: TAR #16 Episode 12 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 05-09-10 at 08:23 PM
Was that the one where Chris & Alex beat out Tara & Wil?
"RE: TAR #16 Episode 12 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Estee on 05-09-10 at 08:31 PM
Remembering Wil's cap is never a kind experience.
"RE: TAR #16 Episode 12 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by michel on 05-09-10 at 09:09 PM
Wasn't first class off limits? Or was it just buying 1st class tickets that was forbidden?
"RE: TAR #16 Episode 12 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by kidflash212 on 05-09-10 at 09:11 PM
They can't purchase First Class tickets - it happned once before when Reichen & Chip bought coach but were seated in First Class.
"RE: TAR #16 Episode 12 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 05-09-10 at 09:11 PM
LAST EDITED ON 05-09-10 AT 09:14 PM (EST)

Yes, teams are only allowed to purchase cattle-class seats - but that doesn't mean they can't be bumped up to first-class if a flight is overbooked.

IIRC, Zach booked first-class seats using a cell phone while on a train because there were no coach class seats immediately available - and they had to have bookings already in place in order to be allowed to get into the airport (can't quite recall which airport this was - Vietnam? Singapore?), then once they got there, he and Flo changed their bookings to a coach seat on a different flight.

"RE: TAR #16 Episode 12 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by michel on 05-09-10 at 09:25 PM
I also remember a team a few years ago (not good on TAR trivia) who had purchased 1st class but had to go back to the ticket counter once told it wasn't allowed.

I understand being bumped to 1st class but here, the brothers asked to be switched which seemed unfair.

"RE: TAR #16 Episode 12 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by CTgirl on 05-09-10 at 09:33 PM
It's not really unfair - any one of them could have tried it if they'd thought of it. I seem to recall teams in the past talking about trying to move up too.

But I wonder if that flight attendant was happy about being called a stewardess! She might be regretting moving them up!

"RE: TAR #16 Episode 12 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by kidflash212 on 05-09-10 at 09:33 PM
Both the other teams could have done the same thing so I don't see it as unfair. Dan & Jordan just outsmarted the other two teams.
"RE: TAR #16 Episode 12 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Snidget on 05-10-10 at 02:04 PM
You can't buy first class or business class tickets, but I think sweet talking yourself into better seats than you were assigned is OK.
"RE: TAR #16 Episode 12 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 05-09-10 at 08:29 PM
Dan and Jordan are now in Lucasfilm ... and this looks like an interesting roadblock!

One has to don a virtual reality suit with sensors all over the body while the other watches a monitor and directs his partner through a virtual Star Wars course.

"RE: TAR #16 Episode 12 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 05-09-10 at 08:29 PM
Jet is wearing a black cowboy hat on the virtual screen! (he's wearing a helmet in real life with the body suit)
"Jordan's function in life."
Posted by Estee on 05-09-10 at 08:32 PM
Roadblock.
"RE: TAR #16 Episode 12 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Estee on 05-09-10 at 08:31 PM
What would you have given for Jordan to crack his head on a virtual beam?
"RE: TAR #16 Episode 12 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 05-09-10 at 08:33 PM
The way that Dan and Cord are yelling at each other, it's too bad they can't just don virtual suits themselves and go at it with laser beams swords!

Jet is stuck in place as Jordan is unable to move in front of him to avoid throwing off the virtual screen.

"Movement instructions, OK style."
Posted by Estee on 05-09-10 at 08:33 PM
'Spin around twice! Click your heels together three times! Do the Hustle! Get down! Get funky!'
"RE: Movement instructions, OK style."
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 05-09-10 at 08:35 PM
He forgot one ... "Rope Jordan and tie him down!"
"There's hope!"
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 05-09-10 at 08:38 PM
Brent and Caite are a good distance behind the other two teams.

Caite looks like Natalie Portman on the screen.

"RE: There's hope!"
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 05-09-10 at 08:40 PM
At the end of the virtual show, teams are supposed to decipher a message.

Dan and Jordan are first to figure out it means they're supposed to go to the Tonga Room.

"RE: There's hope!"
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 05-09-10 at 08:42 PM
Brent/Caite has literally flown right through the roadblock and finished only seconds behind Jet/Cord.

But... karma is ganging up! They left their backpack containing all of their money earlier in the taxicab.

"RE: There's hope!"
Posted by kidflash212 on 05-09-10 at 09:06 PM
I did wonder after Jet stood there and watched Jordan spinning around it didn't occur to them immediately to do the same.
"RE: There's hope!"
Posted by michel on 05-09-10 at 09:12 PM
Why did it take Jet so long to figure he had to spin around after seeing Jordan doing it?
"RE: There's hope!"
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 05-09-10 at 09:16 PM
Jordan's cut-in-line logic was so dizzying that Jet probably thought it was par for the course with his behaviour.
"RE: There's hope!"
Posted by Estee on 05-09-10 at 09:16 PM
He thought Jordan was possessed?
"Next clue..."
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 05-09-10 at 08:45 PM
Carry a trunk through the streets of downtown San Fran to find a place called The Great American whatever (my memory's going).

Once they get there, they have to sort funkadelic signs by order of teams who got Philiminated (with non elims included). Dan and Jordan fly right through this in no time at all and they get the clue to go to the final pit stop ... at Candlestick Park!

"Far out, man!"
Posted by Estee on 05-09-10 at 08:47 PM
So who was expecting a memory challenge? The fan. And who has no memory at all for lesser beings? Well, we may never seen Brent & Caite get this far...

They should really give the eliminated teams their artwork. I won't call copyright foul.

"RE: Far out, man!"
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 05-09-10 at 08:48 PM
Yeah, these signs were rather cool, weren't they? If I was in the race, I'd have loved to have one to take home with me.
"RE: Far out, man!"
Posted by byoffer on 05-09-10 at 09:02 PM
very lame final challenge. Too predictable, especially when teams now take notes based on previous shows.


I do agree that the artwork was cool.

"RE: TAR #16 Episode 12 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 05-09-10 at 08:52 PM
I like the final clue...

"Jack be nimble, Jack be quick, Jack jump over the ___________ "

"The WINNERS..."
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 05-09-10 at 08:53 PM
... Dan and Jordan!

Jet and Cord aren't too far behind, maybe a few minutes is all.

No sign of Caite/Brent, they're way back.

"RE: The WINNERS..."
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 05-09-10 at 08:55 PM
Finally, Caite/Brent comes in and finish third.

Carol gives a half-hearted clap while Brandy kept her arms folded the entire time that Brent/Caite were jogging in.

Catfight between Caite and Brandy!

"RE: The WINNERS..."
Posted by HistoryDetective on 05-09-10 at 08:57 PM
LESBIANS!

Brandy may not be very gracious, but Caite is still an idiot.

"RE: The WINNERS..."
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 05-09-10 at 08:59 PM
Agreed on both counts. Both needed their heads to be rapped.
"RE: The WINNERS..."
Posted by dabo on 05-09-10 at 09:03 PM
Loved that "I am handling it" line, though.
"RE: The WINNERS..."
Posted by byoffer on 05-09-10 at 09:05 PM
Come on HD, throw out their sex preferences and you would hate the lesbians for being very ungracious losers.

If they wanted to be like that they should have applied for Survivor where they could have at least been bitter jury members. As it was, I cannot think of another time when an Amazing Race team was as "ugly" to a team that beat them at the finish line.

"RE: The WINNERS..."
Posted by kidflash212 on 05-09-10 at 09:31 PM
Didn't like Brandy (Carol didn't really get involved) actions and it unfairly distracted from Dan & Jordan's win.
"RE: The WINNERS..."
Posted by CTgirl on 05-09-10 at 09:36 PM
I was just about to post that same thought. I also didn't like that Phil gave Brandy the chance to upstage the winners in the first place.

Brandy and Caite are both spoiled and immature; don't feed their egos by giving them more attention!

"RE: The WINNERS..."
Posted by kidflash212 on 05-09-10 at 09:37 PM
And we posted the same exact thought about the Frist Class move at the same time above - eerie.
"RE: The WINNERS..."
Posted by CTgirl on 05-09-10 at 09:38 PM
I saw that! Great minds...
"RE: The WINNERS..."
Posted by HistoryDetective on 05-09-10 at 09:42 PM
LAST EDITED ON 05-09-10 AT 10:02 PM (EST)

OK, Byoffer,

1. I've never heard Brandy or Carol say that they like men too and just happened to choose women, so it appears that they have a sexual orientation rather than "sex preferences."

2. I think that I very clearly said that Brandy was not gracious. (It looked like Carol was at least clapping, if not enthusiastically. She even looked disgusted when Brandy escalated the exchange, so I'm not sure that it's fair to tar both of them with the same brush even if they happened to be teammates.)

3. Caite repeatedly demonstrated on multiple legs of the Race that she is indeed an idiot. Merely finishing the Race does not necessarily make somebody smart.

As it was, I cannot think of another time when an Amazing Race team was as "ugly" to a team that beat them at the finish line.

You're probably right. That still doesn't make Caite any smarter than a box of rocks.

edited to fix typo and then html

"RE: The WINNERS..."
Posted by michel on 05-09-10 at 10:10 PM
"That still doesn't make Caite any smarter than a box of rocks."

I completely agree but she did have the right to be proud of her accomplishment. As far as we know, she followed the rules and finished ahead of 8 other teams and could have won if their cab driver hadn't gotten lost. Not a bad job and probably much better than anyone expected from her. At the end of the game, you shake your opponent's hand and move on.

"RE: The WINNERS..."
Posted by HistoryDetective on 05-09-10 at 10:34 PM
You're right. And to her credit, she made it to the end without ever having been spared by a non-elimination leg anywhere along the Race. Not all teams who make it to the end can say that.
"We don't forget..."
Posted by Estee on 05-09-10 at 09:02 PM
...and they don't forgive. Brandy could have found a thousand better ways to put it (or at least five which would have made her sound more coldly logical), but she had a major point: Caite hurt herself by not hitting a stronger team.

And then Dan & Jordan won, so 'strength' takes second to 'spinning in place'.

"RE: The WINNERS..."
Posted by ARnutz on 05-09-10 at 09:04 PM
Bitter, party of two, your table's now available.
"RE: The WINNERS..."
Posted by Gilthoniel on 05-09-10 at 09:09 PM
I'm so bummed out! I really wanted Jet & Cord to win. The others are OK, but Jet & Cord are some of my favorite contestants EVER!
"RE: The WINNERS..."
Posted by dabo on 05-09-10 at 09:16 PM
Welcome to the boards. Loved them cowboys, too. And they was shor good sports about losing.
"RE: The WINNERS..."
Posted by michel on 05-09-10 at 09:19 PM
Welcome to the boards, Gilthoniel!

Even if this season was rather weak I did like Jet and Cord's attitudes but Dan and Jordan were alright also.

Not a great race but I picked the right team in Jims' casino game!

"RE: The WINNERS..."
Posted by kidflash212 on 05-09-10 at 09:28 PM
Have to say that Dan & Jordan stepped up their game tonight and deserved this win. Still hate the petty airport move though but moving up to First class was brilliant - gave them a lead and they never looked back.
"RE: The WINNERS..."
Posted by kidflash212 on 05-09-10 at 10:04 PM
LAST EDITED ON 05-09-10 AT 10:42 PM (EST)

Jet and Cord aren't too far
behind, maybe a few minutes
is all.

I would like to know the actual time difference. Editing can make it seems like a few minutes when it actually may have been longer. Dan & Jordan finished the final task before Jet & Cord even got there and didn't seem that Jet & Cord noticed Dan & Jordan looking for a cab. I think they were already in the cab on the way to Candlestick before Jet & Cord ever got to the Music Hall.

"RE: The WINNERS..."
Posted by AyaK on 05-10-10 at 12:23 PM
I agree, and we saw that Jet and Cord messed up the poster identification on top of everything else. We don't know how long it took for them to get it right. I think they were at least as far behind JorDaniel as the models were behind them, and perhaps further.
"RE: The WINNERS..."
Posted by michel on 05-10-10 at 06:08 PM
If anyone has it on tape, a big enough difference would be noticed by different shadow length or angle.
"RE: The WINNERS..."
Posted by kidflash212 on 05-10-10 at 06:20 PM
http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/exclusive-dan-pious-and-jordan-pious-discuss-their-the-amazing-race-win-10913.php

25 minutes according to RTVW interview. And Jet got a very favorable edit if what they say is true.



Capn2patch put me in motion!

"Yay!!!"
Posted by HistoryDetective on 05-09-10 at 08:53 PM
Dance of Joy at the HD house!
"Double Yay!!!"
Posted by kidflash212 on 05-09-10 at 09:03 PM
It been awhile since I was cheering for the winners
"RE: TAR #16 Episode 12 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Earl Colby Pottinger on 05-09-10 at 08:57 PM
Wow, I wished it was the cowboys who won, but I am glad who came in third.

And talk about a catty ending between the women!

"Let's have some"
Posted by dabo on 05-09-10 at 08:58 PM
attitude such like
"Safe prediction."
Posted by Estee on 05-09-10 at 09:03 PM
There will be at least one very ugly interview on the way.
"RE: Safe prediction."
Posted by kidflash212 on 05-09-10 at 09:15 PM
If there is ever another All Star edition any chance they won't cast both these teams for the drama?
"RE: Safe prediction."
Posted by michel on 05-09-10 at 09:22 PM
Is this the first time they sort of had a discussion at the end? Isn't always only the top 3 teams that get to say something? This time we had 3 other teams speaking which I always wanted to see. It wasn't quite a reunion show but it was something.
"RE: Safe prediction."
Posted by kidflash212 on 05-09-10 at 09:24 PM
First time I remember anything like that. I wish Carol & Brandy had shown more class - coming down to her level made them look bad.
"RE: Safe prediction."
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 05-09-10 at 09:26 PM
Carol showed a lot more class than Brandy did.
"RE: Safe prediction."
Posted by ARnutz on 05-09-10 at 09:58 PM
Yep. It's possible Carol was wanting to crawl away and hide under a rock after Brandy did that. How embarrassing. It's part of the game! Oh, but I forgot, Brandy didn't sign up for THAT! ... or half of the other things she had to do.
"RE: Safe prediction."
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 05-09-10 at 10:01 PM
I keep thinking of how she'd have reacted if it was Caite and Brent that came first...

(If that did happen, oh the irony of Caite winning in the most gay and lesbian friendly city)

"RE: Safe prediction."
Posted by vince3 on 05-10-10 at 00:09 AM
I get the feeling that if Brandy saw Caite heading for that finish mat first she might've done something to prevent that........ loss of placement winnings be damned.....
"RE: Safe prediction."
Posted by samboohoo on 05-10-10 at 10:40 AM
Agree.

I haven't watched the entire episode yet, only the end. I thought, even though Carol showed a little more class, they were both awful sports and just awful in general there.

I'm glad Phil and CBS showed it. While, it did take away from Dan & Jordan winning, it also left no doubt for many, including me, that maybe Carol & Brandy just weren't so nice afterall, and perhaps not victims.

I said it after their elimination. We know Caite and Brent wanted them gone. We know Mike & Louie wanted them gone. One of Dan and Jordan had a little celebration moment in the airport when Caite and Brent recapped what happened. In additiona, in spite of Dan & Jordan initiating the whole "beauty queen/idiot" thing about Caite, one of them appeared to be affectionate to Caite at the finish line - even referring to her as "his peach."


Samboobree, brought to life by Arkie


"RE: Safe prediction."
Posted by kingfish on 05-10-10 at 01:08 PM
I DVD'd it for tonite, and my anticipation is heightened by reading this.

And I am glad to read that some negative reactions from the losers is shown. It's hardly surprising that it was Brandy that is the poor loser, she had shown her lack of class previously. But the fake happy happy congratulatory attitude at the finish line in previous races had to be hiding some chagrined (to say the least) losers, and it will be refreshing to see some of pissy attitudes .

"RE: Safe prediction."
Posted by cahaya on 05-10-10 at 07:12 PM
LAST EDITED ON 05-10-10 AT 07:15 PM (EST)

Carol reminds me a little of Ellen DeGeneres (at least as far as looks and some coolness goes), but Brandy is a total bitch.

Brandy's mat unwelcome was way out of line. Caite may be blonde and clueless in many respects, but apparently she is (according to the winner boys in the RTVW interview) not totally homophobic.

Give me Caite or Brandy, and I'll skip the bitter drink.

ed. to evade the female canine reference filter

"RE: Safe prediction."
Posted by AyaK on 05-11-10 at 10:36 AM
LAST EDITED ON 05-11-10 AT 10:36 AM (EST)

The funny thing, once again, is what you can do with editing. According to Dan & Jordan, the homophobe in the room was Jet, who called Jordan some not-nice names. But the editing made it look like Caite was a homophobe, although D&J completely disagree, and Jet was just a good ol' boy.

Maybe it just was that Brandy and Carol really aren't nice people, but CBS didn't want to show that, because then they might have to tarnish the cowboys' star as well.

"RE: Safe prediction."
Posted by cahaya on 05-12-10 at 00:26 AM
No doubt, one clip on the air, ten clips on the floor, and we're given what has been chosen for us to see. Therefore, judgment based on the one clip could well be misplaced in favor of the ten.
"RE: Safe prediction."
Posted by blacknwhitedog on 05-10-10 at 12:43 PM
whew Brandy- bitter much?