I see RB playing favorites so much. She doesn't do well with strong personalities like Niambi or Antonia. She tends to coddle the weak like Cassie. I can't quite grasp what I see... anyone else see this kinda thing with the LC's???

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I see both LC's playing favorites. IV seems to be more apt to hug and extend more effort to the African American HG and she sure hugged and coddled Allisham alot. OMG who can forget their little love fest of going back and forth saying "I'll miss you more" when Allison was graduating or the image of Iguana rubbing Allishams feet. Rhonda does seem to favor those who are chunky and the likes of Josie (think it was more for Chloe's sake though)and Christie she likes because it was a good lead in to the release of her book about body image.

Yea, I agree with RB preferring "weak" hg. I think Antonia would chop her up and spit her out. RB let baby spit Lisa go on for too long. She would have let Antonia slide for years slopping around and not doing her assignments.

Although, passive Lisa did have IY and not RB.

I also think Christie would have benefitted from being with IY instead of RB due to the body image thing.
I also noticed that Iy takes a more maternal posture when dealing with African American women. It's like she becomes a mother figure (this makes some sense from the show when IY said that AA women are not allowed to talk badly about their mothers) however I don't see that with her and Jodi. They truly seem to be at odds with each other like IY doesn't like Jodi and Jodi doesn't respect Iy or something.

I would have liked to see RB take on an African American woman while Iy got RB's preference of the weak Cassie type, if there was a weak Cassie type in the house at the time. I think sometimes IY has a hard time seprating her own issues from the HGs.

Btw, I really can't stand Cassie.

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Hmmm..I typed in the wrong place..

Coffee time..

Arg edited to retype I for the letter U I meant I had typed in the wrong place not anyone.

I wonder if the LC know how obvious it is that they play favorites. Here's what I saw/see:

Rhonda's Favorites: Jessica, Christie, Cassie
IV: Alison, Jill and Naimbi (Jill was a bit different though, she put Jill threw some s*&^, but Lord, they let her stay FOREVER)

Who am I missing?

>I wonder if the LC know
>how obvious it is that
>they play favorites. Here's what
>I saw/see:
>
>Rhonda's Favorites: Jessica, Christie, Cassie
>
>IV: Alison, Jill and Naimbi
>(Jill was a bit different
>though, she put Jill threw
>some s*&^, but Lord, they
>let her stay FOREVER)
>
>Who am I missing?

Rachel was also IV's fav.

Not sure how long Jill was there but Rachel came in right after or jsut before (Her and Renee came in either the same day or within a day apart) Sommer in season two (About Oct/Nov season two) and was there til April of the following year.

Rhonda's been playing favorites from the get go. Andy Paige was Rhonda's favorite from the 1st season. Unfortunately a majority of the hg's have had the distict displeasure of Andy's nightmare makeovers, while many of us viewers have watched in total horror screaming those immortal words of Phoebe from Friends, "My eyes...my eyes!!!"

I have always felt like Rhonda liked women that she percieved as being weaker than her. That way they're not her equal and she can reign queen supreme or appear (and I am talking appearances here) to be benevolent.

I don't think Jill started out being Iyanla's fav, but by the end of her stay I think she was. Allison for sure was but I think that went way beyond the show.

I don't think Rhonda likes to be challenged. Rhonda likes to pick her mirrors so she can keep telling herself how worthy she is. Iyanla likes to pick replacements for her lost daughter. I think all of her HG have resembled her daughter in a way.

Rhonda: divorced, former alcoholic,over weight for a time,viewed brutal murder of mother and suicide of father. Now think of some of her house guests...
Kim: abusive father, loss of mother
Christie: over weight, alcoholic, basically raised without parents, overweight
Jessica: loss of mother in a tragic death
Denise: abusive father

Iyanla: Lost child to cancer. Was challenged by her daughter. Unloved by mother as a child. Lost contact with sister.
Allison: cancer victim
Rachel: young african american girl without mother, who died of cancer. outcast of the family.
Niambi: outcast of family. Young african american woman.
Antonia: lively african American woman who puts a twinkle in Iyanla's eye.

It's just a thought...

Kristin..While I disagree with your assertion that Rhonda doesn't like to be challenged, I think you may be onto something where Iyanla in concerned. I think it's more likely that Rhonda's more skilled at the "touchy feely pop-psyche crap" that came about in the 60s as evidenced by how many psycho-babble buzz words she likes to throw around.

SIDEBAR: How come Dr. Stan, the real psychologist doesn't feel compelled to use any of those silly words, but the pretend therapists, the LCs, who actually refer to themselves as actually having "sessions", throw them around freely? Just wondering.

If I may expound upon your post for a bit:

Iyanla: Lost child to cancer. Was challenged by her daughter. Was herself challenged as a daughter by her mother in an abusive way. Eventually abandoned by parents and other important family members. Acted out sexually for a while. Had three children out of wedlock while struggling financially.

Of those few things I listed, you could attribute them to pretty much every HG she has worked with leaving me to wonder if she picks the HG or if that is the work of the production staff.

Also, I think it's clear that Iyanla uses the women to work through her own issues with her daughters whatever they may be, but it's clear from her actions on the show, creative editing aside, that those relationships in some way must have their own challenges.

I do agree with you on a lot of the things you said BUT ANTONIA is not African American. She's a mixed girl, she looks more spanish than African American. Just because someones "darker" doesn't mean they are AA.

I'm a black person but I don't like people calling me AA, I was born in the West Indies not in Africa. Come on people let us get with the program here.

Part of the problem is that Black Americans caused this on themselves when they decided that they wanted to be "different". They talk about going to Africa and blah blah blah but I know for a fact they would visit and come right back home.

FOOD FOR THE THOUGHT:
Don't go for looks; they can deceive.
Don't go for wealth; even that fades away.
Go for someone who makes your heart smile,
because it only takes one smile to make a dark day seem bright!
Find the one that makes your heart smile. "
"Destiny is no matter of chance. It is a matter of choice. It is not a thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved.

Dear HateEveryone - quite an interesting name you have there. Welcome to the Boards.

Thanks Redbud. I always read the boards but never said anything until now. SO has turned out to be a 2nd or 3rd rate show. It's all about ratings and the LC do play favourites(I know I spelled it "wrong" but I learned the British way).

I hate that IV has to get all the black people and RB gets the white ones. This is part of what is making the country divide.Why do u have to separate the races? I must say though that some of the black women on the show made me want to hide because they proved the myth "Black women are angry" right. Particularly Tess and the one that claimed she wasn't having sex.

Very interesting I think.

FOOD FOR THE THOUGHT:
Don't go for looks; they can deceive.
Don't go for wealth; even that fades away.
Go for someone who makes your heart smile,
because it only takes one smile to make a dark day seem bright!
Find the one that makes your heart smile. "
"Destiny is no matter of chance. It is a matter of choice. It is not a thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved

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Knitwit, I don't think that's what we are saying here at all. I can't point to one example where one LC favors one HG over another. I think the larger issues her are that the women tend to find themselves assigned to the coaches who seem to *mirror* their own issues. I don't think Rhonda could ever effectively coach Allison the same way Iyanla did. The same way, Iyanla doesn't spend a lot of time talking about food and eating. Seems like the ppl Rhonda coaches, tend to have food issues.

I remember thinking that Rhonda was pretty mean to messy Denise from season 2. Last year, she didn't really like Sommer either, but since Sommer decided to come back, Rhonda seems kind of smugly pleased. I never felt as if Rhonda liked TJ either. For the first few weeks, Iyanla didn't treat Jill very well. I suppose that as in anything, there are just some people that you click with more than others. At times that must be difficult to do your best with your clients.

It seems like Andy turned into Rhonda's best friend after she graduated. It looks like Christie is now taking Andy's place in that spot. ;)
I would love to see Antonia and Rhonda go at it. Rhonda would have to go home and have a drink.

BTW, everyone, "a lot" are two separate words.

>It seems like Andy turned into
>Rhonda's best friend after she
>graduated. It looks like Christie
>is now taking Andy's place
>in that spot. ;)
>I would love to see Antonia
>and Rhonda go at it.
>Rhonda would have to go
>home and have a drink.
>

ha ha ha!! Lmao

>BTW, everyone, "a lot" are two
>separate words.

True! And, since we are on the grammar track, may I add:
"all right" --two words. Thanks for letting me share!!

I'll take a stab at the colloquialism "go at it" (for fun), (a la Monty Python) "I'd like to see Antonia and Rhonda fight each other while standing in six feet of water, and armed with nothing but sledgehammers." --My money would be on Antonia! (if she napped first, of course!) ;)