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"Big Brother #15 Week #4 ECST"

Posted by Snidget on 07-21-13 at 07:27 PM
Discuss the CBS version of the Reign of Judd on this thread.

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"Recappage"
Posted by Snidget on 07-21-13 at 08:03 PM
The backdooring of Jeremy.
Judd King of the castle. America now the MVP, but she only hinted to the houseguests. New Showmance, and GM and AA turn on each other.


"RE: Recappage"
Posted by kidflash212 on 07-22-13 at 10:38 AM
The Backdooring of Jeremy


I think I've seen that DVD.


"RE: Recappage"
Posted by Estee on 07-22-13 at 11:26 AM
Good luck getting him to show you the pay stub. He's currently trying to lay out the trail on the Just Because I Said Something On The Live Feeds Doesn't Mean You Can Prove I Said Something On The Live Feeds media tour which Aryan will be following before autumn.

"Seg 1"
Posted by Snidget on 07-21-13 at 08:14 PM
Helen says she shouldn't get too cocky.
Spencer notices the guys keep going home. KKK trying to keep the emotion in and not take it out on anyone.
Jessie feels safe with Judd in power. GM plans on making Judd an offer he can't refuse. KKK thinks she is owed some safety.

McC and AM talking with Andy about the MVP twist and what Judd is going to do. Amanda targetting Howard. Judd says in the DR Amanda wants to control the noms she should win HOH herself.

Howard is going to try to stay cool with J.DD.

HOH room reveal. High School Judd. Letter is from Mom and Dad.

J.DD thinks GM doesn't want to be there. Elissa wants AA to go, and she has made J.DD mad. KKK competitive. GM a waste of an HOH. Worried that one of the ones going up will get a power.



"Seg 2"
Posted by Snidget on 07-21-13 at 08:25 PM
GM can't say auburn, worser, interpernator, pickles disguise her, companization or was that cockranization. comprimazation.

Candice and Howie showmancing. They've bonded over a lot of things. She like penguins.

J.DD. may want to keep AA around as a target. And AA wants howard up. The widows talking. AA think she knows more about the house than KK and GM who shoot down all of AA's ideas. AA doesn't like the way GM talks to her.


"Seg 3"
Posted by Snidget on 07-21-13 at 08:40 PM
LAST EDITED ON 07-21-13 AT 08:43 PM (EST)

Have/Have Not.

Fro-you twist. Everyone has to try every flavor. Team that gains the least amount of weight will be the have nots.

Vanilla/Chocolate in one machine. Anchovy/Habanero in the other.

Orange Team, Jessie, Candice, Andy, Spencer. Starting weight 704.4
Blue Team Helen, Kaitlin, GM, AA at 507.6
Green Team Amanda, Howard, Elissa, and McCray at 635.4

After Weights. People are trying not to puke. Hold on McCrae...

Orange gained 11 pounds
Blue gained 13.2 GM looks preggers
Green gained 12.9 pounds.

Amanda wants J.DD to listen to her. She does have a point says J.DD.

America's Vote
Brussels Sprouts and Banana
Raisins and Ramen
Mushrooms and Marmalade.


"Seg 4"
Posted by Snidget on 07-21-13 at 08:49 PM
Elissa teaching Howard Yoga. Howard having a hard time doing the "easy" routine.

J.DD wants GM up but no one else cares to get her out and says that is a waste. Elissa wants AA gone.

Amanda campaining to get Howard out again. Andy says she is playing way too hard.


"RE: Seg 4"
Posted by michel on 07-22-13 at 07:30 AM
I thought Amanda was a smart player but this obsession with Howard is dumb. If you want to influence someone, you have to consider his POV so she should have sensed that Judd wasn't going to nominate Howard. This will obviously get back to Howard.

"Seg 5"
Posted by Snidget on 07-21-13 at 08:56 PM
AA sure she is going up. Howard feels too comfortable.
J.DD power good and bad.

Nomination Ceremony.

Spencer - Jessie - Elissa - Candice - McCrae - Andy - Helen - Howard - GinaMarie - Amanda

KKK and AA nominated.


"RE: Seg 5"
Posted by kingfish on 07-22-13 at 01:27 PM
That was smart (in a tongue-in-cheek way) of Judd to put Amanda's key last. That way she stopped being concerned with Howard’s nomination and began to worry instead about her own possible nom.

"Thanks Judd, for the heart attack."


"Weds night."
Posted by Snidget on 07-24-13 at 08:14 PM
Where we left our "heroes" last. Amanda and Kaitlin up on the block. Howard notices all the strong guys left.

Aaryn has no idea what J.DD meant but he made her look sketchy. So she goes to confront J.DD. Did I twist something, as she cries. He asks her to act mad at him, but she's just a pawn for whoever is backdoored.

Kaitlyn worried she is the target.

Amanda wants to backdoor Howard.

Elissa and Andy wondering who MVP is, and Elissa unnerved because she should have heard by now. They tell her she is acting really weird. Amanda imitates her so she gets how bad her poker face is.

McManda snuggling and talking about Elissa.

Spencer and Howard not feeling good aout McManda. Trying to figure out who they can get for the "outsider" alliance.

Howard going on about ants and grasshoppers...


"RE: Weds night."
Posted by suzzee on 07-25-13 at 11:43 AM
Howard notices all the strong guys left.

Nothing gets past Howard.


Oh yes they did.


"RE: Weds night."
Posted by kingfish on 07-25-13 at 12:33 PM
Girls are sneaky.

"Weds seg 2"
Posted by Snidget on 07-24-13 at 08:25 PM
Talking about maybe America is the MVP. This scares them.

Gather up!

Find out who the MVP nominated...And it is Elissa.

Now something weird is going on, and Elissa feels betrayed. Howard doesn't know what to think. This was not expected.

Joining the HOH and nominees are Helen and McCrae. Andy chosen to host.

Aaryn doesn't like Elissa up as the third nominee...she thinks that they will think it is her...no really...she thinks anyone thinks she is that loved...

GM tries to be nice but Elissa is not wanting to hear it because it has to be one of those three girls. GM says she didn't get it. GM swearing on the bible. Elissa just wants to go home. Candice trying to talk her down off the ledge.

Aaryn has to get the veto as she says they will think she is MVP. Amanda says there is something going on they don't know about. Could Elissa be crazy enough to put herself on the block?

GM goes to the HOH with dramatic music. And Elissa put herself up is theory discussed up there.


"RE: Weds seg 2"
Posted by suzzee on 07-25-13 at 11:46 AM
I would love to be there when Elissa finds out she was America's (in the sense that Rachel's Minions her fan base blindly voted for her again) as the pick to go on the block. Best Vote Ever



Thanks sweetie! You brite up my world


"Weds seg 3"
Posted by Snidget on 07-24-13 at 08:38 PM
Crawl through the mud, then collect the ballot and decide to keep it or discard it based on number of votes.

Most votes at the end wins the veto. Ones with a lot of votes have punishments with them.

10 seconds.

Helen 29 votes and a 8 pm curfew for two nights with the 10
Kaitlin 25 votes, no punishments/rewards
McCrae 20 votes and the 0 comes with $5000 bonus.
Aryan 32 votes, no punishments/rewards
Judd 38 votes and 24 hours of snooze alarm solitary
Elissa sit out next POV and has 40 votes so wins.


"Weds seg 4"
Posted by Snidget on 07-24-13 at 08:48 PM
Celebration for McCrae's birthday. Elissa rags on one piece bathing suits.

Beepeep

McCrae gets spanked. He watched the live feeds all day last year.

Beepeep Beepeep.

Elissa embarrassed for Amanda. They are being mean to her and she is confused and hurt by the mean girl act.

We have toilet cam! Amanda sad because they were loyal to Elissa and this is how she is repaid for that.


"Weds seg 5"
Posted by Snidget on 07-24-13 at 08:54 PM
Veto meeting.

Helen worries she will be the replacement nom.

Elissa takes herself off the block.

MVP chooses...GinaMarie.

Lot of stunned silence.

Howard thanks the MVP. No one trusts anyone.


"RE: Weds seg 5"
Posted by kingfish on 07-25-13 at 07:59 AM
I'm beginning to like Helen's odds as the eventual winner.



"RE: Weds seg 5"
Posted by Belle Book on 07-25-13 at 11:28 AM
Me too! I like Asian Americans (as long as they're not nasty) and Helen isn't, so I hope she wins!



"RE: Big Brother #15 Week #4 ECST"
Posted by kingfish on 07-25-13 at 12:30 PM
Last night, Kaitlin was shown as having deduced that Elissa was the MVP, that she put herself on the block as part of a plan to throw suspicion off of herself. A plan which made perfect sense in whatever Kaitlin uses for a mind.

OK, putting aside her decision to join the bully girls, her comments, and her questionable judgment concerning Jeremy, this particular deduction and her readiness to accept it without any apparent critical thinking is mind boggling. To me.

The plan itself is laughable, but believing that Elissa could come up with a deception on that level is even more laughable, and the idea that Elissa would voluntarily put herself on the block is rolling on the floor out the door laughable.

Kaitlin is a certified idiot.



"RE: Big Brother #15 Week #4 ECST"
Posted by michel on 07-25-13 at 05:22 PM
Not that I want to defend Kaitlin but Elissa did talk often about wanting to be voted out so it would follow that she could have nominated herself.

"RE: Big Brother #15 Week #4 ECST"
Posted by kingfish on 07-25-13 at 07:43 PM
But that wasn't what Kaitlin was thinking, at least as shown. She thought it was a clever plan by Elissa to deceive everyone into thinking she wasn't the MVP.

Again, it's just ludicrous to credit Elissa with that type of deception, and it's just as ludicrous to think that with her despair about having been but up "every time!" <dramatic sob!> that she would volunteer for it. I just cannot imagine anyone with one brain cell actually thinking she would. Except, I guess, Kaitlin.


"RE: Big Brother #15 Week #4 ECST"
Posted by michel on 07-25-13 at 10:29 PM
From our POV, sure it's ludicrous but as a player you don't have the information, you only have time to fabricate all sorts of scenarios. I'm pretty sure Kaitlin wasn't the only one to think of that and I'm certain it isn't the most ludicrous theory ever formulated by players in games like these. I've heard plenty worse over the 26 seasons of Survivor... and the ones I've played online.

Elissa repeatedly said she wanted to go home, she had won MVP every time and none of Kaitlin's ally, the ones that would normally nominate Elissa, had won this MVP so the self-nomination became a very likely possibility. It could have been an all-or-nothing type of gambit made by Elissa: "You either vote me out or you vote Aaryn out. One way or the other, I won't stay in this house with her any longer."


"RE: Big Brother #15 Week #4 ECST"
Posted by kingfish on 07-26-13 at 08:37 AM
Obviously, I am speaking from the viewer's point of view. That's the only one I have.

But no matter, it was a ludicrous self delusion on Kaitlin's part.


"Thursday"
Posted by Snidget on 07-25-13 at 09:12 PM
Recappage.

Aaryn had the most votes. Elissa was the second choice. Third choice is GinaMarie.

The Mean Girls are all on the block and trying to make it right with those they have wronged, or so says the Chenbot.

Kaitlin is told she is the pawn and if she scrambles it will look bad. Aaryn says how GM is the mean and negative one and I changed my tune.

Judd was aligned with Kaitlin but everyone is talking at him. Elissa and Helen talking to Judd about who to vote out. Kaitlin is stonger, no one like Aaryn.

Elissa is against Aaryn, she effects my game.

Judd talking to Howard and Candice in the cockput canoodle corner.

Aaryn promising the moon and the stars if she gets to stay.

Kaitlin's alliance comes out so that puts the target on her.

Spontaneous House meeting puts the vote in question, or so they promise in the next session.


"Thursday Seg 2"
Posted by Snidget on 07-25-13 at 09:23 PM
Who can keep a secret.

Keep the secret allliance we all know about a secret, ok, pass it on.

Elissa tells Kaitlin she isn't safe. Elissa wants to call everyone out. Aaryn overhears it.

And now it all goes around about what is going on. And I didn't say it and that didn't come out of my mouth and why are you smiling, and start fights with other people. It's not fair.


Chenbot: Judd what is the deal with the bear shirt. His lucky shirt and everyone likes it.

McCrae, happy birthday. Can't top the celebration in the house.

Fro yo shop , shows them the GinaMarie footage. So how bad was that anchovy habanero. Tried to take one for the team.


"Thursday Seg 3"
Posted by Snidget on 07-25-13 at 09:31 PM
Begin the live vote to begin.

Aryan: I want to be her more than anything, and being on the block is a constant reminder, I learned a lot from all of you.

Kaitlin: It has been great to get to know all of you. Respect your decision.

GM: Big Heart and a bad accent. I have drive and weaknesses. I love you all. Thank you America. Nick I miss you babe. BBXV we make this look good.

Amanda - Kaitlin
McCrae - Kaitlin
Helen - Kaitlin
Candice - Kaitlin
Elissa - Kaitlin (and they are all sad about doing this)
Spencer - Kaitlin
Howard - Kaitlin
Andy - Kaitlin
Jessie - Kaitlin

Votes are in. When we return give the news to the houseguests.


"Thursday Seg 4"
Posted by Snidget on 07-25-13 at 09:41 PM
0 votes GM you are safe.

By a vote of 9-0 Kaitlin you are evicted. That was quick, not much of a hug fest on the way out.

Chenbot you bolted. They lied to my face and I knew it. Not mad, but personal things set aside. Hurt by Andy. thought you were the pawn. Why see you as a threat. People I aligned with and I tried to cover it up and it didn't work.

Calling you three the mean girls. That kinda hurts, but I will admit I aligned with some catty girls. People see Aaryn as the leader, and the mattress flip, why participate in ugly behavior. It happens. Any regrets, some, wrong side of the house.

She's going to Vegas. and He can do what he wants. We will see.

Goodbyes from.

Helen. Aaryn gave a deal, tough to beat
Candice, sweet girl, the guy who fell for why you went out.
Judd, wish we started working together sooner.
Aaryn, can't wait to see you

Power up for grabs, next. We will be the BBMVP once again, Kaitlin goes oooooh.


"HOH Comp...BB Casino"
Posted by Snidget on 07-25-13 at 09:51 PM
Practiced last night. Roulette me win. Roll a single ball to the wheel. The highest numbered slot will be the new HOH. If other than a numbered slot, your score is zero.

Andy up first (not Helen as Chenbot first said) - 23
McCrae - 28
GinaMarie - 3
Candice - 27
Spencer - 34
Aaryn - 36 highest score possible
Howard - 17
Jessie - 2
Helen - 28
Amanda - 1
Elissa - One slot short.

Aryan is new HOH.


"RE: HOH Comp...BB Casino"
Posted by Estee on 07-26-13 at 08:12 AM
LAST EDITED ON 07-26-13 AT 08:13 AM (EST)

So who else knew Aryan would wind up as HoH this week just based on the way the show loves to operate? Outnumbered and despised without any effective alliance = hand me the key, sucker!


"RE: HOH Comp...BB Casino"
Posted by kingfish on 07-26-13 at 08:41 AM
Utterly predictable.

"Filler...."
Posted by Snidget on 07-25-13 at 09:58 PM
Jeff on as filler.

He doesn't think she will hold up her end of the deal.

Chen: should she hold it up.

Jeff: Well I did and that didn't work out for me. With three on the block better chance of taking someone out.

Chen, didn't know MVP is America, they are paranoid enough..what they going through.

Jeff: You go crazy in there. You see how crazy you go in there that Elissa put it up. How is Jordan, we were in Chicago, flew here just to see Julie.

Chen: you engaged yet?

Jeff: are we out of time

Chen: Who is playing the best game?

Jeff: McCrae.


"RE: Filler...."
Posted by michel on 07-25-13 at 10:43 PM
It would be a smart move to keep the deal with Helen, nominate the two she wants to see go. Aaryn needs allies, not enemies. Nominating Howard and Spencer could earn her a new alliance.


"RE: Filler...."
Posted by kingfish on 07-26-13 at 08:43 AM
LAST EDITED ON 07-26-13 AT 08:44 AM (EST)

<rough paraphrase> Jeff:"...just to show you how crazy they get in the house, they (Kaitlin) actually thought Elissa would put herself up! How crazy was that?"