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"Who else hates Amanda..?"
Posted by LilBigBFan on 08-23-13 at 04:21 PM
Her gameplay isnt even that good shes being carried...

shes won nothing, she's just a scheming ##### who needs to get out.
She got rid of all of the good players that everyone loved!!
and now she will probably go against aaryn cause shes a little #####!!

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"RE: Who else hates Amanda..?"
Posted by michel on 08-23-13 at 09:39 PM
Welcome aboard.

However...I am one that really likes Amanda's game. Why? Because, as you wrote, she got rid of all the good players that some of you loved. As for being carried, I'd say she was the driving force into making those alliances and she was the reason why the Moving Company failed. Pretty impressive in my book!

"RE: Who else hates Amanda..?"
Posted by tribephyl on 08-24-13 at 03:12 AM
How did I know that michel would have been the first to respond?

And yes, a very hearty welcome to you, LilFan.

So... while I do agree with michel's stand regarding Demanda (I would also like to add that she has pretty much controlled the vote even when she's had no "power" to cull from), I am not a fan of hers.

IOW I loathe her as well. She, to me, is about to out-scuzz-bucket Ivette. But not because she's gotten rid of "all the good players that everyone loved" because frankly I'm happier than pie that Jeremy, Kaitlin and David are no longer part of the show. However, it can be stated that Candice, Judd, Jessie and Helen were all evicted solely because Demanda wanted it done and I'd glady suffer through 4 more weeks of them than 1 more day with Demanda.
I imagine McCrae feels the same way. Beating himself upside the head for not cutting ties a long time ago.

"RE: Who else hates Amanda..?"
Posted by Round Robin on 08-24-13 at 04:09 AM
And to think I liked that b!tch when the season first started! Now her act has worn so thin that if she were to get the death penalty I'd volunteer to be the executioner. Elissa, backdoor her, please!
"RE: Who else hates Amanda..?"
Posted by kingfish on 08-24-13 at 09:09 AM
LAST EDITED ON 08-24-13 AT 09:10 AM (EST)

Couldn't have said it better. So I won't even try.

I echo Lil, Tribe and Michel's thoughts, so I won't say anything. I would only add to the confusion and might even give people reason to doubt that Imamda isn't the low down despicable soul destroying bully who has taken McCrea's very being of goodness and turned it into a golem, a zombie, a mindless ex-pizza delivery system.

So I won't say anything at all. No sirree, zipping the lip, gonna be the most silent guy you ever didn't see, because I'm going to be invisible too.

However, if I were to say something about Imamda...

"RE: Who else hates Amanda..?"
Posted by michel on 08-24-13 at 05:52 PM
From my POV, Helen was just as much the bully as Demanda.

- She berated Elissa for wanting to quit because it would hurt HER game.

- She gave relationship advice to McCrae, telling him that he HAD to cut ties with Amanda.

- She threatened Andy with full on revenge if he voted against her. That is a bully and, like Amanda said, it was on a personal level. We saw her real colors when she said: "Andy, America is watching you and will judge you if you go with the bad people."


"RE: Who else hates Amanda..?"
Posted by tribephyl on 08-25-13 at 02:25 AM
again, I'm totally with ya'.

In truth, there are pretty much a slew of awful things we could say about pretty much EVERYONE on the entire cast this season.
I believe we only briefly glom onto "favorites" until they too become just as despicable game players or make horrifying game plays as so-n-so did before. They're all bad. Yet they also have shown some "good" game play. At some point or another.


I think at this point, the only hamster who played a flawless game was David, solely for being the first to be evicted.
I almost feel badly for trying so hard to get Estee back. Like I should apologize for Baalzebub Grodner. Or even worse for Robin Kast.
My apologies for such a fall-season worthy cast, Estee. Please forgive me?

"RE: Who else hates Amanda..?"
Posted by Aruba on 08-24-13 at 12:41 PM
LilBBfab,

Allow me to hop on the "welcome Wagon" too and say, "HI"

Do I hate her???

Well, if you've read my other posts and see how I refer to her as Ho-manda (for the skanky ho she is) that should answer your question.

On the other hand (and I say this with all due respect) to state "her gameplay isn't even that good" and "she got rid of players" in this same post is pretty much a contradiction. Getting rid of players IS the objective of the game.

What I believe we agree on is criticizing her approach to the game. Yes, she's a lying, scheming, backstabbing vile piece of trash. And why is that? The answer is twofold:

1) You kinda answered it at the beginning of your second sentence: "she's won nothing." When a player is pathetically inept, they need to compensate (or overcompensate) for this deficiency. And more times than not it's by lying, scheming, and backstabbing.

2) Simply put...You are; who you are; who you are. For the most part, HG's behavior on BB is an extension of their real lives. If you lie in real life to try to gain advantages, you'll be that way on the show. If you are hard-working and dedicate yourself to putting out optimum effort and giving 100% in real life, you'll be that way on the show.

And if you're a horny toad/skanky ho in real life...guess what...that's how you'll behave in the House.
Which is why Ho-manda spends a good deal of her time in the House on top of McCrea. HMMM, with that being said, perhaps there may be some truth to your claim that she is being "carried" LMAO LMAO.

"RE: Who else hates Amanda..?"
Posted by annielynne42 on 08-24-13 at 05:49 PM
ME! ME! ME! I hate Amanda.....feel the same as the rest of you! I liked Helen in the beginning, but can't stand her any longer, either....never liked Amanda! Helen turned on, too, many friends not long after the show started.......hope she doesn't come back!
"RE: Who else hates Amanda..?"
Posted by michel on 08-24-13 at 05:57 PM
"...the rest of you!"

It's funny how my opinion never seems to count. "Most of you" would have been the accurate way of putting it.

"RE: Who else hates Amanda..?"
Posted by annielynne42 on 08-25-13 at 01:16 AM
Sorry, Michel! You are correct!
"RE: Who else hates Amanda..?"
Posted by tribephyl on 08-25-13 at 02:37 AM
Are you kidding me?
Your opinion is the ONLY one that counts.
By merely being the dissenting vote is taking a stand.
And that ALWAYS counts as a pro in my book.
I think it's because we all seem to be mutable as concerned to "favorites". Good strategies or bad game moves. Whether social or physical or geneological. (such as HOHitis, POV Positive, Pawns Disorder. Floaters disease.)
We, like the hamsters are clinging on to the only thing that's good about this show...and it's getting increasingly hard to find it.

I personally have been harboring an enormous amount of respect for Aryan's current game-play. She is without a doubt this season's power player, but I just feel nothing but nausea when I think of her as a personality. Ick. Do I need to seek professional help for this?

"RE: Who else hates Amanda..?"
Posted by michel on 08-25-13 at 03:06 PM
LAST EDITED ON 08-25-13 AT 03:08 PM (EST)

I just noted that my opinion was being dismissed, not that it matters more than the others. Annielynne noted it so the matter should have ended there.

See, I don't give a crap about any contestant on these shows. I don't love any, I don't hate any. I only watch the game so only the game moves matter. Aaryn and Amanda are playing well despite being b*tches.


Once the show is over, Aaryn, Amanda, McCrae and the rest will be the last of my worries so why should their opinions and behavior matter now? Why give them that importance? Why waste my revulsion on such meaningless people. I'm offended by what's happening in Syria, not in the BB house.

"RE: Who else hates Amanda..?"
Posted by Estee on 08-26-13 at 03:14 PM
LAST EDITED ON 08-26-13 AT 03:18 PM (EST)

I don't hate Amanda. I hate Aryan, but she's earned it. Amanda I just intensely dislike. At this point, there isn't a single one I care for -- although for one, that's not his fault.

Across the board:

GinaMarie: Bigot. Stupid. Just intelligent enough to know how stupid she is, which is normally a tragic combination -- except when you go right back to being happily proud of your ignorance.

Aryan: Bigger bigot. In denial. Liar and history-rewriter. Will likely be the first to claim all activity witnessed on the live feeds was computer-faked to make her look bad.

Spencer: Nazi-admirer. Misogynist. Will say the nastiest things out of nowhere and hardly seem to notice. 'Care' does not apply. Would have been fired already, but union.

Amanda: Single-minded, which in this case means she doesn't understand other people get to have an opinion because she's got the only mind in the cage capable of forming one. Hypocrite: how dare anyone plot against her, don't they know she's the only one allowed to do that? Emotionally unstable.

McCrae: Came in as the superfan who should have let his knowledge and ability to bend with the endless twists carry him to the end. Switched all thinking from primary head to secondary head. Deserves whatever he gets.

Andy: May be faking every emotional connection he has in the cage. Doesn't have friends: has bit parts in other people's productions. Cries on cue. Lies on demand. Lacks the ability to wink at the camera and get us on his side for any of it. Floats on.

Elissa: Insane. Turned ninety degrees away from mainstream reality and will not look back no matter what happens. Changes her stories so often as to turn into Danielle Part #2: Now With Even Less Credibility. Producer's pet and High Queen Of The Nile.

Judd: Nice guy. Decent human being. Wouldn't mind spending a little chat time with him. Has absolutely no right to play again after sharing information with the other jurors and never should have gotten back into the game at this stage. Not his fault, but...

"RE: Who else hates Amanda..?"
Posted by newsomewayne on 08-27-13 at 08:32 AM
<Judd>never should have gotten back into the game at this stage.

Just think of it as Big Brother's version of Redemption Island®.

Now, don't you feel better about it?


Tebow Time is over. We prefer to win games in the 1st quarter.
Trade managed by GM Agman, 2012

"RE: Who else hates Amanda..?"
Posted by Estee on 08-27-13 at 09:02 AM
*thinks it over*

No.

"RE: Who else hates Amanda..?"
Posted by newsomewayne on 08-27-13 at 09:58 AM
You never like any of my ideas.
"RE: Who else hates Amanda..?"
Posted by kingfish on 08-27-13 at 10:21 AM
Lucy, to your Linus.
"RE: Who else hates Amanda..?"
Posted by michel on 08-27-13 at 10:32 AM
You certainly got that right. Too bad none of them will ever read this.

PS. I would have included Spencer's comment about child pornography which I think makes him the most loathsome of the bunch.

"RE: Who else hates Amanda..?"
Posted by kingfish on 08-27-13 at 12:01 PM
This is not to defend Spencer's utterance of those things. I would never defend comments like those. But they should be taken in context. Which was (as I understand it) that he was speaking into another guest's mike and attempting to jokingly defame that guest by saying the most deplorable things he could think of.

Why he did this is a mystery, it was just wrong, shows bent thinking, and obviously he couldn't have seriously thought that his ploy would work and that those remarks would be attributed to anyone else just because he used their mike. He would have to fool the cameras, too.

So he has a bent sense of humor (I’ll call it that), not appreciated by myself, you (I assume), or anyone else. But in that context, he is not advocating the practices of which he spoke, or saying that they are what he does. It was a just terrible joke in shockingly bad taste. And of all the things said in the house this year, that really takes the cake, and is what he will probably follow him in post-BB15 life.

He's said some other stuff that was pretty racial and misogynistic, too, so Spencer doesn't deserve to be let off anyone's s--- list.

"RE: Who else hates Amanda..?"
Posted by newsomewayne on 08-27-13 at 11:07 AM
Like others, welcome to the boards. Have fun. Be respectful. Know that opinions are like exit orifices; everyone's got one. Or is one.

Like everyone else (Hey, Michel!), I disagree with your contradictory assessment of Amanda's play. If she's not a good player, how is she getting out other good players?

Everyone differs in how involved we get in these shows. Some people get entirely caught up in one player or a group of players who can do no wrong and everyone else is mean or stupid for plotting against them. Some have no personal investment in the players and only look at the game moves and such to get their entertainment from the game. In all honesty, I first thought this kind of stupid, but on second thought, I compared it to how I watch some sports. In football (college or pro), I can't just watch. I have to pick a team to root for or against. But in other sports- basketball, golf, cornhole, etc. - I can watch just for the gameplay. I don't have to like or dislike those people involved.

When it comes to reality TV, I like to think I can do both. I can pick a person to root for or against, but also appreciate a good game move, no matter who makes it.

I do not like Demanda. I think she's a loudmouth. A bully. A control freak. Spoiled to some extent. I don't think it's a product of her current environment. On the contrary, I think her current environment has allowed these traits to flourish, where if she were exposed to real-life consequences for her actions, these qualities might be dampened or perhaps even subdued. I say again, I do not like Demanda and hope she does not win. But...

Demanda is a good player. No bones about it. Until this week, she's had a big hand in the demise of every evictee. She has found a way to have influence and power behind the curtain. However, with Elissa as HOH, Toto has found the curtained control booth and is beginning to pull it open for the rest of the house to see.

No player runs a perfect game through the BB house. Mistakes will be made. People will be misread. And sometimes, things are just beyond your personal control. Having McRae and Aryan on the block does not mean she's playing poorly. It just means she's gonna have to show us some skills she hasn't had to yet to keep her game on track. Personally, I hope she doesn't. But it will make the next few weeks more interesting if she does.

"RE: Who else hates Amanda..?"
Posted by michel on 08-27-13 at 12:18 PM
Very well put, Wayne.