Is the Henry The Eighth song public domain? That would combine two of Kalia's favorite activities: singing and endlessly repeating herself. The other hamsters would mass suicide by Hour Four.

LAST EDITED ON 09-03-11 AT 09:15 AM (EST)

I was all for it. An anti Kalia contest was just what I wanted to see. And after she almost croaked during the previous "crawl under obstacles thru oozing mire" (strapped to dead weight - Lawton) contest, it's pretty obvious that the powers that be didn't want her getting this HOH.

Or, maybe they were just trying to getting her to croak for real. That would suit me too.

This was pretty much loaded againt Jordan also, last time we saw her crawling thru mud in TAR, she had a very hard time.

But it had doughnuts in it!

LAST EDITED ON 09-02-11 AT 05:18 PM (EST)

We don't know what the rats told Rachel, but she opened Pandora's Box. As a result, she got to meet former Big Brother hamster Jessie Godderz (good thing Jeff was out of the house), while the rest of the house (especially Adam) got to meet Tori Spelling. Tori told Adam that she'd help plan his wedding to Farrah.

They must have told her it was essentially harmless, except for the amount of time she'd spend wishing for death added to the duration used trying for it. Gawds, that's the second time Pandora's unleashed Jessie... (They should have let him go downstairs. I'm sure he would have had advice for the current generation of widows.) I bet he talked about his new wrestling career. And worked out. And made Rachel work out. And talked about himself. And talked -- wait, we already did that joke. At least Rachel should have had some resistance built up from her multiple Kalia exposures.

(I checked Jokers in the middle of writing this post. According to Rachel, the Pandora video showed Tori waving at her while holding clothing. And then Jessie gave her a T-shirt. And a plate. And a giant picture. All with his face on them.)

Score one for the guessers -- a lot of people across the Internet thought this celebrity visit would be 90210 related, and of course Tori's up for anything with a paycheck attached. Adam is in his heaven and all's right with the world. Except for Rachel, who had to watch Jessie pec-flex every time she said his name.

She and Britney are so going to have a bonding experience from this.

Meanwhile, Rachel's been tracking the calendar and figured out there's only room for one normal Thursday live show, so she knows there has to be some kind of acceleration on the near horizon. No plans yet (and no point in making them), but at least she and Jordan are braced for it.

LAST EDITED ON 09-02-11 AT 07:37 PM (EST)

Should be about time for nominations. Rachel is pretty clear that she's nominating Porsche and Kalia, so that one of them can't win the veto and take the other off.

According to Adma, that was their plan, and then they'd vote off Jordan when she was put up as the replacement nominee. They attribute the strategy to lessons taught them by Dani. Adam tells RaJo that anyone who's ever watched the show knows it.

You know, last week Jordan was comparing Shelly to Dr. Will as a manipulator. But really, if Adam hadn't won the one veto competition, he'd be the one most like Dr. Will, because Dr. Will intentionally never won anything so no one would worry about him as a threat. (Of course, Adam's no Dr. Will as a strategist; I still think "Operation Double Date" was the best strategy ever employed in BB, even beating Danielle and Jason's secret alliance in Season 3 and "The Brigade" last season, because Will came up with it on the fly.)

The only two competitions I expect Adam to even think about trying to win are the F4 POV and the F3 HOH. But Jordan mistakes it for Adam being worthless in competitions.

Edited to add: The only way Adam would try to win F4 POV is if the survivor of K/P wins the next HOH and thus can't be evicted. Otherwise Adam will just float to F3. And the only way Adam tries to win F3 HOH is if he's against RaJo, because he'd be low man on that totem pole.

Exactly as expected: Porsche and Kalia. J/R agree Kalia's gone if she doesn't win POV. Their worst case scenario is Kalia winning POV and then HOH.

Worst case would be for K to win two POVs in a row.

BB woke the hamsters up around 8:30 this morning.

Sounds like the POV comp will be around 3pm BBT. So we'll know around 5 BBT, perhaps?

Peeps are thinking OTEV since it is during the day. If so, expect it to between Rachel and Porsche.

Meanwhile, colds or allergies are drifting through the BB house.

>BB woke the hamsters up around
>8:30 this morning.
>
>Sounds like the POV comp will
>be around 3pm BBT.
>So we'll know around 5
>BBT, perhaps?
>
>Peeps are thinking OTEV since it
>is during the day.
>If so, expect it to
>between Rachel and Porsche.
>
>Meanwhile, colds or allergies are drifting
>through the BB house.

Can someone tell me what OTEV means please? Thanks.

VETO backwards.

Some sort of thing (clam, tiki, whatever will be named OTEV) that thing gives some kind of clue, they have to go find the answer to the clue on a bunch of somethings with hamster names on them.

If 4 go searching the first three right go on, then 3 go searching and first two right go on, etc.

>VETO backwards.
>
>Some sort of thing (clam, tiki,
>whatever will be named OTEV)
>that thing gives some kind
>of clue, they have to
>go find the answer to
>the clue on a bunch
>of somethings with hamster names
>on them.
>
>If 4 go searching the first
>three right go on, then
>3 go searching and first
>two right go on, etc.
>

Thanks. I knew it was veto backwards, I just didn't know what kind of a comp it was.

OTEV is veto backwards. It's a name of a POV comp that BB has had towards the end of a game for many seasons.

They create some sort of BB god, called OTEV (one time is was a singing clam that opened its huge mouth), that sits on top of a ramp, and the players have to collect items that have answers to OTEV's questions and scramble up the ramp to deposit the item in front of OTEV. There's lots of running and possible fighting over the same item and falling.

The slowest one up the ramp is eliminated, unless someone who got there before them brought OTEV the wrong item.

Then OTEV asks another question and off they run again to grab the item they need to give to OTEV and they have to run back up the ramp before everyone else does.

LAST EDITED ON 09-03-11 AT 05:39 PM (EST)

Adam won.

Sounds like it was OTEV.

Kalia is already working on him. Not much finesse than Dani had, lol.

Jordo and Rach seemed bummed. "Guys always win OTEV" says Rach.

Sounds like they had to find "pie" that had Brendan, Dominic, Jeff and Shelly in that order and Porsche got to the top with the wrong name on one of them and had to go back and get the right name.

Jordan was out first and called herself a sucky partner.

Jordan is nervousing over whether Adam will save Porsche and that would put Jordan on the block and Porsche and Adam could send her home but said Adam already told Jordan in the storage room that he's with J and R.

Adam, being grilled by Kalia, is not yet commiting to her and saying he has two days to think about it.

Rachel is reassuring Jordan that keeping Adam over Shelly was the right call because Shelly would never have won that challenge.

Well, well, well. Adam won the Power of Veto. I wonder if he'll decide it's time to make a stand or if he should simply float along. I think he likes Jordan but he also might be close to Porsche -- and I don't think he likes Rachel much. Also, he has to know he probably won't beat Jordan if he goes with her to the end. He'll probably beat Rachel, however, and he'll probably beat Kalia.

If you are playing BBRAT, please see post number 19 in the #11 and 12 evictions thread for a discussion on deadlines, and please comment. Thanks!

The dark suspicion here is that Adam wouldn't have played Veto to win unless he was ready to make a power move. After all, this sets up Rachel's lone worst-case scenario: the one that puts Jordan up and out, leaving her alone in the cage. An interesting argument to make for the jury -- but I'm not sure how making this move lets Adam face it. He has the same problem in going through that he has in backing out: either way, he's a single between two pairs. Both of those pairs would apparently rather take each other to F2 than pull him along. He can improve his challenge odds a bit depending on where he goes -- but if he doesn't win that last HoH, he can pretty much count on being dumped at F3 no matter who he finally gave temporary loyalty to. The exception is if he does this and a boomerang-intensive jury (minus Dani) hates him for it: in that case, he has a chance at misperceived goatdom.

This win forces Adam into commitment, whether through action or inaction. It's just hard to argue that he has a clear better course.

I gave Adam more strategic credit that he deserves. He won OTEV, but he says he's sticking with R/J and not using the veto.

I guess he was afraid that R/J might actually take the all-female final four proposal seriously. But they didn't. Now he's had to choose a side in a manner that doesn't help him in the game.

Like Adam, I trust R/J to take him to the final three. But what if Porsche wins next HOH? Or, even worse, wins next POV? He could well be gone.

BTW, I'm presuming that Kalia will be gone because all three, R/J/A, agree that she's better at questions than Porsche.

There's a jury vote component being factored into Adam's thinking.

If he saves Porsche, Jordan goes up and he and Porsche could vote her out leaving Adam/Kalia/Porsche and Rachel as F4. That really lessens Rachel's chances of getting to F3 or F2.

From this move he incurs the wrath of Jeff, with whom he still feels aligned, and Jordan, because he booted her. He fears Rachel and Brendan would also be ticked because he already told Jordan and Rachel that he was not going to use the veto.

So if he got to the F2, there are 4 people voting against him. Shelly is a wildcard to him.

So he sticks with Jordan and Rachel and hope to beat them on q's or morphs or whatever.

I've also gotten the feeling from him that he does not want to see Kalia or Porsche win over him. He could tolerate it if a vet beat him, but not a sleep a lot newbie.

Remember, Kalia voted to boot Adam last week (tricked by Rachel and Jordan to do it but it was her desire to "vote with the house". She should own it.) and that bothers Adam.

I'm thinking he leaves the noms the same and he and Jordan vote to boot Kalia. Meanwhile, Jordan has a pro/con list for both Kalia and Porsche running in her head and keeps making an argument to keep one or the other to Rachel.

You are right: Adam cannot be seen as the bad guy. Adam's best move is to stay with R/J this one time but I don't think he can win against either one. Even Rachel would have the votes against him because she has a stacked jury.

So, after keeping the nominations the same, he must hope that Porsche eliminates R/J. He could beat Porsche who would only have votes from Kalia and Dani secured. The vets + Shelley could give the money to a long time fan over a cocktail waitress-wannabee-mactor-recruit.

Adam may try to go on a run for challenge wins. He told Shelly he knew he needed to beef up his BB "resume".

The OTEV win was satisfying for him in that regard. Not sure how many wins he thinks he needs for his "resume".

A resume requires both challenge wins and game moves, so winning a veto and not using it is not as good for resume as an HOH win IMHO.

But I agree with all of you that being responsible for a Jordan nom and eviction will not benefit him at all. His win prevented Kalia or Porsche from winning and he kept himself off the block, so that is something he accomplished, and he should have scored points with the vets for not putting all the effort on them. He would have lost those points if he changed the noms.

Seems to me that Adam needs to work with the vets or at least keep clean hands with them, in order to work on jury votes. If he can manage to let Porsche take out a vet, that would be good for him. If he ended up with Rachel, that would be ideal, because he would likely get the newbie votes and Dani, and that would be enough.

If he helps the vets but Porsche gets them out, he probably gets all the vet jury votes except for Dani, which is still enough.

Not that I am rooting for him at this point. I am rooting for him over Kalia or Porsche.

Adam has accurately figured out that big game moves generally don't help the person who makes them. Didn't help Dani, didn't help Shelly. They're both gone.

And I also think Rachel has it right that Adam respected Jeff and so won't turn on Jordan.

Adam has a decent shot in a final two, if he makes it. If he makes it against Porsche (presuming Kalia's gone next), he's a lock.

Agree for the most part. Certainly making big moves has been a bust this season.

I think the jurors want to vote for someone who took a stand, made moves, picked an alliance and stuck to it, and didn't float. That seems to be the mood of current players, at least it is what they SAY.

So the problem is that floating isn't respected, but playing hard gets you evicted when the power flipflops as it has this season.

At the end, it seems to come down to whether the people who control the majority votes were either on your side or developed hate and loathing for someone next to you.

We all understand how that works in these games. The floater like Adam is probably in most danger when someone like Rachel or Jeff who cannot stand floaters decides to get them out, but that isn't a luxury they can indulge in so late in the game. As Rachel admitted, she cannot leave a challenge threat in to go against Adam for not proving his worth as a player.

And so Adam continues on ....
however, Jordan is in a pretty decent position right now -- her fate is in her hands if she can pull off a win at the right time and save herself at F4. Didn't she pull off a win or two near the end in her season, and that's how she got to the end?

>however, Jordan is in a pretty
>decent position right now --
> her fate is in
>her hands if she can
>pull off a win at
>the right time and save
>herself at F4. Didn't
>she pull off a win
>or two near the end
>in her season, and that's
>how she got to the
>end?

In my opinion, Jordan has and continues to be the most dangerous player in this game. Sitting with Jordan at the final two spells BB suicide for the four other players. I can only see one situation in which Rachel could actually win the game, but she loses in a landslide if she sits next to Jordan. It honestly makes me chuckle every time Jordan talked about floaters. Perhaps it's just me, but Jordan rode Jeff's coattails during her season (but, pulled off some key challenge wins at the end) and she's rode Jeff and Rachel's coattails during this season. She perfected floating and she's so nice that nobody takes her seriously as a game winning threat.

If I wanted to win, I'd take Kalia to the F2. Even Rachel may have a chance depending on how Adam votes--he's been more vet aligned that newbie aligned, so he could potentially give her the win.

Rachel: Brennnnnnan, Jeff, Jordan
Kalia: Dani, Porsche, Shelly

JMO

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I surely agree about Jordan.

And about Kalia, surely Porsche wants to take her.
The sweet thing that Jordan has going for her though is that anyone from "her" current alliance who is responsible for evicting her is in danger of losing votes from Brendon and Jeff. Well, Rachel would lose Jeff, and Rachel can't afford to lose a vote.

Adam could lose Jeff, Brendon, and Rachel if applicable. Kalia has sworn by her promise not to vote Jordan. So Porsche is really the only one who can evict Jordan without fallout.

Anyone but Jordan can honorably evict Rachel, because she is known as "the threat." But Adam still could lose support from Jeff, and he loses Brendon.

Adam doesn't have Dani's vote anyway, so he can evict her allies.

I was hazy on BB11, so I looked up Jordan's stats.
She won 2 HOH's, including the Final HOH guaranteeing her spot.
She won 1 POV, but during her own earlier HOH.

She was on the block three times, in Week 3, at F5, and at F4, but each time someone deemed a bigger threat went out -- Casey, Jeff, Michele.
I imagine Jordan was a pawn in Week 3. Michele was on the block, won POV, and was replaced by Casey.

Jordan was going to be toast if she had not won the final HOH. Kevin and Natalie were going to take each other to the end.

Jordan's chances at F4, assuming Kalia is evicted at F5:

Rachel cannot compete.
Jordan wins HOH, Safe.

Adam wins HOH, probably noms Rachel and Porsche.
If either nom wins POV, Jordan goes on block.
If Rachel has lone vote, she should evict Porsche.
If Porsche has lone vote, she should evict Rachel.
If Jordan or Rachel win POV, Jordan is lone vote, probably evicts Porsche.

Porsche wins HOH, noms Rachel and Jordan.
Porsche or Adam wins POV, Adam votes, evicts .... Rachel.
Rachel wins POV, Adam goes up, Rachel evicts Adam.
Jordan wins POV, Adam goes up, Jordan evicts Adam.

So every scenario, IMHO, has Jordan surviving.
At F3, if she loses Rachel at F4, then I think Jordan is in danger, as either Adam or Porsche would evict her.

If Jordan faces Rachel/Adam at F3 or Rachel/Porsche, I think Rachel would keep her.

I don't see any other scenario for Jordan. Both Adam and Porsche ought to choose Rachel Goat.
Jordan or Rachel must win final HOH for Jordan to go before jury.

>Jordan was going to be toast if she had not won
>the final HOH. Kevin and Natalie were going to
>take each other to the end.

See, that's the fallacy. Kevin was going to take Natalie to the end, but Natalie was looking for a way to double-cross Kevin, whom she didn't think she could beat. Throwing the second leg of the HOH gave her the perfect setup, because whoever won HOH would take her to the end.

Little did she know that two of her allies on the jury, Jessie and Lydia, had figured out a lot of her lies. She thought for sure that the only votes Jordan would get would be Jeff and Michele, with Kevin, Russell (furious about being backdoored by Dumb & Dumber over a lie), Lydia and Jessie voting for her (and who cared how America would vote, but she thought she might win that too). Didn't work that way. She was right about Russell and Kevin, but that's it.

>however, Jordan is in a pretty decent position right now --
> her fate is in her hands if she can
>pull off a win at the right time and save
>herself at F4. Didn't she pull off a win
>or two near the end in her season, and that's
>how she got to the end?

BB11 was down to the final 6 when Kevin and Natalie cooked up the plan to totally lie to Dumb and Dumber about a nonexistent conversation between Russell and Michele. D&D fell for it, hook, line and sinker, and HOH Dumb (Jeff) won veto and then backdoored Russell. Kevin won next HOH and promptly nominated Jeff and Michele. Michele won POV, so Kevin subbed Jordan. Michele voted to evict Jordan, Natalie voted to evict Jeff, and Kevin got to cast the tie-breaking vote to evict Jeff. Next HOH was won by Natalie, who was trying to play for Jordan's vote in the finals. She nominated Kevin and Michele. Natalie also opened Pandora's Box and couldn't play in the F4 veto competition, which put huge pressure on Kevin to win POV to keep eliminating Jeff's team, while Natalie could pretend to be above it all.

Kevin did win veto, and so Jordan was again the sub nominee, but Kevin booted Michele as the bigger challenge threat. Final 3 HOH started with an endurance comp, which Jordan failed at immediately -- Kevin won. Then Natalie threw the second game, which put Jordan against Kevin for HOH, with the challenge being correctly identifying statements made by jury members. Kevin and Jordan tied 3-3, which forced a tiebreaker on the number of votes taken in the BB house. That was something that Michele had been keeping track of, and Jordan got it (well, off by two) to win the final HOH.

I tell that whole boring BB11 story just to emphasize that I don't think Jordan is much of a challenge threat .. except at BB mini golf.

All you needed was her own quote: "I suck as a partner."

She cackles and laughs and gives clues for the next HOH comp.

More later.

LAST EDITED ON 09-06-11 AT 07:37 AM (EST)

Courtesy of Jokers, here's what she said:

-in 2018 Shelly will make millions when her book how I created the perfect tan and how you tan too reaches #3 on the all-time best seller list.

-In 2017, after the hot Miami sun becomes too much for her to bear, P will move to Anchorage, Alaska, and buy an igloo with an Eskimo named Ernie.

-In 2014 Jeff will disappear from society, he will be last seen wandering the Chicago streets muttering only two words: Clown Shoe.

-On Oct 15th, 2011 at 3:42pm Dani will reconcile with her father D.ick. On Oct 15th, 2011 at 3:49pm they will go back to not speaking.

-In 2014 after sleeping for 19 straight days and making national headlines in a sleep study Kalia will earn her dream job as a mattress and pillow tester.

-In 2016 Lawon will take new york fashion week by storm when he launches his handsomefied line of hats, ties, and jackets.

-After taking 9 years to earn his PHD Brendan will shock scholars and physicians alike after discovering the cure for an ailment that plagued him his entire life: Athlete's foot.

-In 2020 Adam will file for bankruptcy after investing his life savings into a line of bacon scented heavy metal teddy bears for children.

-In 2018 Rachel will give birth to a 9lb 6oz bouncing baby boy, naming it Bookie Junior after it's proud father.

-In 2012 Cassie will land a role alongside international mega star David Hasselhoff in the countryfied Baywatch reboot, RIVERWATCH.

-In 2015 Evel D.ick will start a Christmas tradition by bringing gifts to heavily tattooed orphans changing his name from Evel D.ick to old St. D.ick.

-In 2013 Dominic will grace the cover of 17 magazine with the headline "total DOM-ination" He will dethrone pop sensation Justin Beiber as America's favorite heart throb.

-In 2015 Keith will land a job hosting a new dating show called "Love Rejection" but it will be short lived, after it's revealed he tried to date all 29 female contestants.

-In 2011, after the runaway success of the humilitard Jordan will launch a line of humilitard inspired items including the humilicar, the humilifier and the humili-bake oven.

LAST EDITED ON 09-06-11 AT 08:20 AM (EST)

The Fortune Teller started up just after 9:30 pm BB time last night and periodically called them to the PR with her laugh. They had one minute to gather in the room and then she would say one of the Fortunes. This went on until 11:30 ish and then she was quiet until around 2:00 am, just after all of them went to bed (lol).

Then she started up again, repeating the same fortunes, cackling them to the PR every few minutes.

They are not allowed to stay in the PR, they have to leave after every fortune per her instructions.

She just did another one, 5:12 am BB time; she just repeated Dani and D.ick's about reconciling. They think there are 4 more to be repeated. Rachel has not come down from the HOH room for the repeats; she may not hear the FT up there.

Kalia, who thinks she is being saved by R and J's votes tonight, has been trying to stay up all night but is now going to bed, too.

Adam has been doing different things as he goes into the PR, like carry in the duck that Tori kissed, or wear a straw hat and have the pipe in his mouth, etc. One time he wore a bandana on his head and the afro wig is on the kitchen counter perhaps he wore that one time, too.

BTW, they are aware that there is a live show/eviction today.

Yup, today. I read that sometimes BB will block live feeds to keep the results a secret, so we might not find out until tomorrow night what the eviction vote result is.

So they're filming it today for us to watch tomorrow? That's hardly a "live" show.

Tomorrow is PoV. Usually the eviction isn't until Thursday.

Why the accelerated vote off, I wonder?

It's live for the in studio audience and shown taped to America on Wednesday. You know, "live" so Kalia or Porsche gets a big hand of applause when they they exit the BB house.

*muttering under breath: "hair splitter" ;)*

If it's live before the studio audience, then it'll leak. TV Guide still has Thursday as eviction night, but I forgot what Chenbot said at the end of last episode and whether it's tomorrow night instead.

There are 2 evictions this week.

Here's what I understand is happening:

CBS's taping a show tonight before a live studio audience but this show is not aired until Wednesday night, BB's regular night. Porsche or Kalia is evicted. BB has the F4 HOH comp where all but Rachel compete. Comp is likely true/false comments based on the fortune teller's fortunes.

Feeds will be cut before CBS films the show tonight. BB already taped some of today's activities to air on BBAD tonight. They gave them champagne/OJ to toast for being F5 and tie dye tshirt stuff.

F4 POV likely tomorrow unless held late tonight (if it is morph?). POV ceremony tomorrow? Live on Thursday?

Wednesday night CBS airs the show filmed on Tuesday where America sees Porsche or Kalia evicted and the HOH comp. CBS turns the feeds back on after Wednesday's show.

Thursday there is another show filmed and aired live where the players go from F4 to F3. They probably start part 1 of the F3 comp on the show but leave the audience hanging as to the winner.

There is no show on Sunday because it is 9/11 and I believe CBS is doing a 9/11 special.

Next Wednesday is the finale at 9:30 after the Survivor premiere.
Finale is 1 1/2 hours and the rest of the F3 comp is finished and the F2 get questions from the jury. Jury votes. Winner is announced.

Well, you should be writing my blog for me. *laugh* Thanks for the detailed explanation of the likely events and airings. I had forgotten about the 9/11: 10 Years Later special being aired on CBS from 8 to 10.

Hey! I understood that!
Thanks.

"If it's live before the studio audience, then it'll leak"

Agree. That is why I suggested an accelerated deadline for BBRAT and why Kircon changed the deadline to tonight for PTTE.

***TV Blur***

Message for TV Blur: if you are reading this, go to the BBRAT 11th and 12th eviction thread, see post number 19, comment, and post your picks because the players agreed to use tonight before the show is filmed as the deadline while Tribe is away. I sent you a PM (red wavy flag) but never heard from you, thanks!

Rachel can't play for HOH anyway. She can just sleep through the fortunes.

Would you trust the rats not to use these at F3? Or even at F4 and F3? Or would you rather put your hope in the pre-existing relationship of guinea pigs?

With Adam officially not using the veto, it may be time to look at Kalia's vote -- or potential lack of one, as there's a decent chance she'll walk out of the jury house rather than force herself to give 500k to anyone who isn't her. After all, Adam betrayed her, Porsche betrayed her, Jordan might as well have betrayed her, and Rachel is Rachel, which is clearly unforgivable. Kalia's vote could easily wind up as a text-off -- but just for the @#$$ of it, let's look at things as if she's actually capable of making a decision.

Rachel vs. Jordan: Jordan
Jordan vs. Porsche: Porsche
Adam vs. Jordan: Jordan
Porsche vs. Adam: Porsche
Rachel vs. Porsche: Porsche
Adam vs. Porsche: Porsche
Rachel vs. Adam: Chima

LAST EDITED ON 09-06-11 AT 02:24 PM (EST)

I kind of wondered how the number of logically possible permutations went up from six to seven. Then again, Adam vs. Porsche and Porsche vs. Adams could be distinguished by who's on home ground, because neither of them belong here.

Rather than blame my insomnia, I'm going to go with 'logically possible permutations on this show?'

...no, let's blame the insomnia.

Based on the current schedule, they've already taped tonight's faux "live" BBAD, from 10 AM-1 PM PDT, and now they're in feed blackout based on the eviction and the HOH competition. If the schedule rumors hold true, we won't know the result of today's HOH until after the faux "live" eviction airs tomorrow.

The feeds have dropped into rerun mode: we're getting Most Pointless Moments from the current season and should be revisiting Jessie yet again by four a.m. (So remember, no matter what happens, kill the window at 3:59.)

Rachel thought she heard water being poured outside, but that would indicate a more physical competition than the fortune teller foreshadowed. Nothing to do but wait...

That Jessie just gets more and more annoying. Where is Bobdechemist when you need him/her.

And please tell me that the Jessie merchandising was just made up for the Pandora's Box stunt.

Feeds are still out, and BBAD will be pre-recorded, but here are the rumors from the live taping.

First, Kalia was evicted by a 2-1 vote. That was exactly the plan, according to Jordan: she voted to eliminate Porsche, Adam voted for Kalia, and Rachel got to cast the tiebreaking vote to dump Kalia. This morning, Jordan confirmed with Adam that he was going to vote for Kalia to verify that there would be a tie (it should be on BBAD).

Them, according to the tweets, Adam won HOH by one question over Jordan, 6-5 (Porsche was way behind). The questions were indeed based on the fortune teller's predictions, so the rats didn't pull a trick, as far as we know.

It doesn't really matter who Adam nominates, since the POV winner will be the person who gets to choose the evictee.

The tweets also say that Shelly's entry into the jury house was accompanied by fireworks. I presume Jeff ignited them.

The nominations and PoV and veto meeting might all be live Thursday along with the voteoff since they will all go pretty quick. The Shelly vs. Jeff fireworks are not news, as Julie has already mentioned those on a promo.

Just a thought -
will BB get pre-empted by Obama's speech on Thursday?

Depends on how many birther speeches Julie's made lately.

Why the tie? I've been a little behind on live feeds due to being out of town. Was the tie planned by Rachel, Jordan & Adam? Did Rachel want to break a tie? I'm assuming this allowed Jordan to keep Kalia and Adam & Rachel to keep Porsche happy?

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Allows Jordan to keep her pinky swear with Kalia and gets her that much closer to any prospective jury vote. I don't think Jordan was trying to set up any ironic echo: 'Here's a tie, now here's the HoH throwing you out. Now why does that seem so familiar?'

I thought their deal was not to nominate one another. Is/Was Rachel okay breaking the tie?

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LAST EDITED ON 09-07-11 AT 05:46 PM (EST)

Actually, Rachel told Jordan that she really would prefer it if she didn't have to break the tie, but she'd live with it as long as she was sure Kalia was eliminated.

It does give Rachel a reason to eliminate Jordan at final three if she so desires, though. Kalia would certainly vote for Jordan over her.

Especially after Rachel told JoAd that she planned to say in the exit video to Kalia that, despite all the deals Kalia offered, a cow can't change its spots, which you just know that Kalia would have heard as Rachel calling her a cow. (She would have been safer using the equivalent analogy that a tiger can't change its stripes, or that a leopard can't change its spots. Predatory cats are always in style.)

Edited to change "to" to "told" in the last paragraph. Typos that I make drive me crazy.

>>> (She would have been safer using the equivalent analogy that a tiger can't change its stripes, or that a leopard can't change its spots. Predatory cats are always in style.)

ROFL AyaK .... I love the predatory cats in style ... so true.

If you were Rachel's metaphor coach, she might be less disliked. Might. Although you'd have to put your foot down on her laughing at her own non-jokes.

Part of what makes Rachel fascinating is that she's still obnoxious and self-centered, just as she was at the start of the season.

But because her boyfriend got along with Jeff, she's ended up as part of a pairing with Jordan, who through two seasons has shown that she's probably the nicest, although least strategic, person to ever win Big Brother U.S. -- and hanging out with Jordan has enabled Rachel's behavior to be perceived in a much more positive manner, even though it seems about the same.

Here's Joker's source which they call credible:

"Miss Cleo
MissCleoBB13 Miss Cleo
ADAM IS THE NEW HOH. KALIA EVICTED BY 2-1 VOTE WITH RACHEL BREAKING THE TIE. Just left the taping. #BB13

Miss Cleo
MissCleoBB13 Miss Cleo
I just left the taping. ADAM IS THE NEW HOH. Porsche came in last place in the HOH comp #bb13
15 minutes ago

Miss Cleo
MissCleoBB13 Miss Cleo
HOH was a true/false based on the fortune teller lines. #BB13
12 minutes ago

Miss Cleo
MissCleoBB13 Miss Cleo
Adam got six out of six answers correct in the HOH comp. The questions were tough too. #BB13
7 minutes ago

Miss Cleo
MissCleoBB13 Miss Cleo
Kalia fought to stay all the way to her eviction speech. Got to give her credit for fighting. #BB13
6 minutes ago

MissCleoBB13 Miss Cleo
One last thing...jury house gets AWKWARD when Shelly arrives!! Jeff AND Dani fans- you will love it. #BB13
2 minutes ago "

Thanks for the updates, guys!

Looks like Rachel is toast if she does not win veto. As is Porsche.
They should go after Jordan, but I don't see it happening until F3.
It does matter who Adam nominates in terms of perception. He can say it is all up to the veto umpteen times, but no one likes going on the block, and it does send a message to the person who is not put up that HOH likes her best.

Also, sometimes the HOH wins the POV (although Adam will likely throw it). In that case, pulling off one of his own noms and replacing it with his real target would allow that person to feel back doored (even though it is not really a back door).

He is best to put up his top two choices for eviction. As HOH though, he could play hard for the veto and do it to protect J/R or Porsche, and earn loyalty points. Even though they say it is each person for herself at the veto, that is not really true with the HOH able to increase the odds for either faction to survive.

Not Adam's MO to put out for his allies to date, but we'll see.

Rachel had said before to Jordan that she figured Adam would never nominate Jordan because Adam had been so influenced by Jeff (this was when Jordan was still being wishy-washy about voting out Shelly, even though Shelly had voted out Jeff and Jordan had thrown a fit about it).

Thus, Rachel has to be expecting that Adam will nominate herself and Porsche. I figure Porsche is expecting the same thing.

And that's what I expect Adam to do, while making some statement that these nominations don't really matter since it all comes down to POV. No sense making new enemies.

Thanks as always for the info from the feeds, which I am not following at all except for reading this topic.

Yes, that is surely what Adam will do.

So even though Rachel needs to win that veto, her only real danger is if Porsche wins it.
That is the danger of winning HOH at F5. Rachel could have had competitive two shots at being safe this week, HOH and POV; now she only has one, and Porsche does have challenge strengths.

Rachel should have let Adam win the F5 HOH, as he was in second place and appeared to be trying. But she can't compete that way. Then Adam couldn't have competed for the fortuneteller questions, and Rachel might well have beaten Jordan.

Feeds should be back in a couple of minutes. I figure I'll watch the first hour just to see the relationships.

Once again, I seem to be wrong. Rachel and Jordan appear to be the nominees. No clue if POV has been played yet.

Joining Adam as the second member of the F3 is:

Porsche, the POV winner.

Jordan is packing up. Rachel is playing cards with Adam and Porsche in the HOH room and BB has given them a real deck of cards.

Porsche nearly says who she is going to choose to be the last person to be F3 but BB tells her "NO".

However, she said to Adam when Rachel went to use the bathroom:

"She won two years ago. Give someone else a chance."

She = Jordan, of course, but we don't know if the DR got involved yet or not.

Looks like Janelle's coaching is paying off for Porsche.

(lay low as long as you can and then win comps)

Sounds like Porsche won POV. So Jordan and Rachel are up (and packing).

Porsche told Adam that she was leaning toward evicting Jordan because Jordan just won BB 2 years ago; time for someone else to win. The rats told her that she wasn't permitted to talk about it. It was actually funny.

Porsche told Adam, while Rachel had just walked out, "Am I allowed to tell you this?" and then said what I put above. Then the voice of BB said, "Porsche. No."

Rachel came back and asked what that was about. They both made up something to tell her that was obviously false. Then Porsche said, if I told you what we talked about, I'd probably just get "noed" again. And the voice of BB promptly said, "Porsche. Yes."

So don't expect to hear any more game talk until the live eviction. But prepare to say goodbye to Jordan.

LAST EDITED ON 09-08-11 AT 01:28 AM (EST)

Rachel said that, technically, Porsche is still on the block and she might not even use the veto. So it appears that Adam did nominate Porsche, although it was along with Jordan, but Porsche won POV and told the others (after this comment) that she's going to take herself off.

Adam brought up Marcellas.

Great: on track for a victory by Queen Miscarriage, who will immediately turn around and jab everyone in the abdomen with her key for a just-in-case. This likely turns Rachel into the ideal F2 goat for Porsche and Adam both. (This gets a little mixed up if it's Adam on the jury, though -- how does a fanboy vote in this situation? Side with the three loyal boomerangs and Rachel could squeak this out.)

The normal rules for the series (seldom excepted) are either Most Nauseating Wins or Who's Going To Jail? Well, at least the ultimate ending could be happy...

Texas Justice!

I think Rachel could actually win against anyone.

Jordan: Really did nothing. She won 1 HOH, and you could argue it was handed to her because Jeff & Brendon didn't even try after she had it in the bag. Plus, Jordan won two years ago. Jordan could possibly win against Adam because of the bitter jury factor, but Adam won when he needed to.

Porsche: Rachel would have Jeff, Jordan, & Brendon. Rachel could argue that Porsche was carried through Golden Key season and that she played more than Porsche.

Adam: Again, Jeff, Jordan & Brendon. Probably Kalia & Dani.

Samboobree, brought to life by Arkie

Never expect a hamster jury to vote based on gameplay. If Jordan's out, then in a Rachel vs. Anyone Else match, the newbies plus Dani will vote for any newbie standing against her: the loyal boomerangs vote for Rachel. Because when the only questions and answers which matter begin and end with 'Baaaa', there's no need to justify any vote.

But Adam as a juror could conceivably go with 'Who gets me into more parties?' And that's a battle to the death.

LAST EDITED ON 09-08-11 AT 11:55 AM (EST)

A final plea which advocates the wholesomeness of bacon would probably get Adam's vote.

This is according to Joker's for today:

Jordan told Rachel that Porsche has already informed her that she (Jordan) is gone. Rachel said she was sorry that she couldn't win the POV. Jordan said that it wasn't Rachel's job to have to carry her the whole time and also told her that it really came down to last week's evictions: if they'd kept Kalia instead of Porsche it would be Rachel leaving if they hadn't won veto.

Jordan told Rachel to be very careful if she won final HOH, because she probably can't beat Porsche (unless it's Porsche that evicts Adam) but probably can beat Adam. She says that JeJo are certain Rachel votes no matter whom she was facing, so with Brendon she has three votes for certain. (She also thought Adam would beat Porsche 4-3, so she tells Rachel to be extra nice to Adam and not to say anything to Porsche that she can run to Adam and tell him.)

She says that Adam has always claimed to be strong at endurance, but that it will most likely be Rachel and Porsche as the last two in endurance, so make sure to keep telling Porsche that you feel good during the first leg. And she started to tell Rachel about how the rats try to influence you in the DR during the final 3 and make it so much harder on you, but the feed promptly got deleted by the rats before we could hear what they do to manipulate you.

Adam tells Jordan that he's afraid that if he wins HOH and doesn't take Rachel to F2, he'll lose both B&R's votes and thus lose to Porsche. Jordan doesn't correct him . . . although we learned in the previous convo between Jordan and Rachel that he probably wouldn't.

Jordan agreed not to tell Kalia that Adam is still holding a grudge against her.

The mixing bowl didn't turn into a mini-volcano, but as far as endurance contests go, it came close. Adam went off first and Porsche didn't make it to an hour. Both of them are in visible pain as they limp around the cage in search of showers. By comparison, Rachel's practically content (and already clean): she's halfway to the last kind of control she can have.

It's strange to look at it from a suspense point of view: With Rachel in the final battle, there is a measure of suspense but, if she wins that final HoH, she kills the suspense.

The world upside down: Rachel is a huge jury threat. That can only happen in seasons with returning players which is another reason why those seasons suck.