We left our non-Lane Final Four hamsters decorating a Christmas tree... from the other side of a chicken wire fence.

Live chat of the HoH can be had in the Government room of http://www.myinfochat.com/

• HoH winner,vince3, 09:30 PM, 09-02-10
  • RE: HoH winner,Round Robin, 01:01 AM, 09-03-10
• RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 9: Final Four Xmas HoH to F3,Estee, 08:03 AM, 09-03-10
  • RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 9: Final Four Xmas HoH to F3,MollyTV, 08:27 AM, 09-03-10
  • RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 9: Final Four Xmas HoH to F3,samboohoo, 09:40 AM, 09-03-10
  • RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 9: Final Four Xmas HoH to F3,Outfrontgirl, 07:44 PM, 09-03-10
    • RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 9: Final Four Xmas HoH to F3,Estee, 08:08 PM, 09-03-10
      • RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 9: Final Four Xmas HoH to F3,ohmyheck, 03:15 AM, 09-04-10
        • RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 9: Final Four Xmas HoH to F3,Estee, 03:27 AM, 09-04-10
          • RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 9: Final Four Xmas HoH to F3,ohmyheck, 02:31 PM, 09-04-10
          • RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 9: Final Four Xmas HoH to F3,michel, 05:57 PM, 09-04-10
        • RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 9: Final Four Xmas HoH to F3,Outfrontgirl, 09:32 PM, 09-04-10
          • Some POV history,Outfrontgirl, 10:19 PM, 09-04-10
            • RE: Some POV history,Estee, 02:37 AM, 09-05-10
• Upcoming Comps,samboohoo, 09:42 AM, 09-03-10
  • RE: Upcoming Comps,arkiegrl, 09:55 AM, 09-03-10
    • RE: Upcoming Comps,vince3, 10:32 AM, 09-03-10
    • RE: Upcoming Comps,samboohoo, 11:09 AM, 09-03-10
• Yet another stupid Pandora's Box.,Estee, 05:09 PM, 09-03-10
• Britney wins 10k from Pandora.,Estee, 06:56 PM, 09-03-10
• Nominations are in,vince3, 03:54 AM, 09-04-10
• POV is underway,vince3, 11:03 PM, 09-04-10
• POV Competition is over,vince3, 11:19 PM, 09-04-10
  • RE: POV Competition is over,Outfrontgirl, 09:52 PM, 09-05-10
• Brigade is outed,vince3, 02:05 AM, 09-06-10
• RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 9: Final Four Xmas HoH to F3,kingfish, 08:27 AM, 09-07-10
  • RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 9: Final Four Xmas HoH to F3,samboohoo, 09:32 AM, 09-07-10
    • RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 9: Final Four Xmas HoH to F3,Tummy, 11:51 AM, 09-08-10
      • RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 9: Final Four Xmas HoH to F3,kingfish, 12:12 PM, 09-08-10
        • RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 9: Final Four Xmas HoH to F3,Tummy, 12:38 PM, 09-09-10
• Live feed shutdown,vince3, 09:51 AM, 09-07-10
• Wednesday Episode Spoilers,vince3, 01:27 AM, 09-08-10
• RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 9: Final Four Xmas HoH to F3,Puffy, 01:56 AM, 09-09-10
  • RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 9: Final Four Xmas HoH to F3,vince3, 04:00 AM, 09-09-10
• RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 9: Final Four Xmas HoH to F3,samboohoo, 08:41 AM, 09-09-10
  • RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 9: Final Four Xmas HoH to F3,arkiegrl, 09:06 AM, 09-09-10
    • RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 9: Final Four Xmas HoH to F3,samboohoo, 10:37 AM, 09-09-10
      • RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 9: Final Four Xmas HoH to F3,arkiegrl, 11:09 AM, 09-09-10
  • RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 9: Final Four Xmas HoH to F3,Estee, 10:25 AM, 09-09-10
    • RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 9: Final Four Xmas HoH to F3,samboohoo, 10:39 AM, 09-09-10
      • RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 9: Final Four Xmas HoH to F3,Estee, 11:14 AM, 09-09-10
        • RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 9: Final Four Xmas HoH to F3,Lorr, 11:38 AM, 09-09-10
        • RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 9: Final Four Xmas HoH to F3,LFJ, 04:43 PM, 09-09-10
        • RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 9: Final Four Xmas HoH to F3,kingfish, 08:15 AM, 09-10-10
• HOH Part Uno,suzzee, 02:10 PM, 09-09-10
  • RE: HOH Part Uno,Snidget, 03:32 PM, 09-09-10
    • RE: HOH Part Uno,BrassFan, 03:41 PM, 09-09-10
      • RE: HOH Part Uno,Round Robin, 04:29 AM, 09-10-10
• Grim Irony,vince3, 03:32 PM, 09-15-10
  • RE: Grim Irony,Estee, 05:30 PM, 09-15-10
    • RE: Grim Irony,vince3, 05:48 PM, 09-15-10

is Hayden, for his third reign overall, and 2nd in a weeks' time. (Was the HoH for the Double Eviction speed up cycle)

No shock there, he had a pretty big lead when SeeBS went off the air.

So if you're Hayden, how do you solve the Britney-Lane problem? Fail to nominate one, they win the veto, save the other, and there goes Enzo. Nominate both of them and one wins the veto, saves themselves, becomes the lone voter, and there goes Enzo.

As usual, it's all about the veto competition this week -- and until the medallion lands, all HoH decisions are potentially pointless.

wow...good point!

Agree. Everyone has to play for the Veto this week.

If Lane can, I see him throwing it to Brit, then he still somewhat keeps the blood off of his hands.

Samboobree, brought to life by Arkie

>>> Fail to nominate one, they win the veto, save the other, and there goes Enzo.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the veto winner can't take anyone off the block this week unless veto winner stupidly decides to go up and give up his/her vote. Two people have to be on the block.

If a nominee wins, they come off and get to decide which of the other two non-HOHers goes home.

If the non-nominated non-HOH wins, noms remain the same.

If HOH wins POV, HOH can switch up his own noms to have the person of his choice making the vote.

In the first three scenarios, POV winner chooses who to evict.
If HOH wins POV, the person he leaves off the block decides, and may or may not vote how HOH wishes.

I figure there are two shots at Enzo leaving and two at Britney leaving.

Britney wins POV - Enzo goes.

Enzo wins, Britney goes.

Hayden wins, he takes Enzo off the block or keeps noms the same, Britney goes.

Lane wins, Enzo goes.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the veto winner can't take anyone off the block this week unless veto winner stupidly decides to go up and give up his/her vote. Two people have to be on the block.

No. If the veto winner is the lone voter, they can still save one person from the block. There's no replacement nominee: the lone original just goes home. That's why the veto is so dangerous at F4.

This has happened -- Season #4, I think.

Season 5. Cowboy's one and only challenge win of the season, followed by his sole vote to evict his sister.

Thankee. (Trying not to remember Cowboy is considered self-defense.)

Completely understood.

Good thing I started watching at season 6 then! But that wasn't better...

LAST EDITED ON 09-04-10 AT 09:44 PM (EST)

I remember Cowboy having a choice who to evict, and he chose to evict his sister because he wanted to win. That's what made it interesting.

ETA I looked up Michael/Cowboy. Nominees were Nakomis and Diane. He won Veto. He didn't save anyone. He evicted Nakomis. He was the sole vote because both nominees stayed on the block. If you could save one of the nominees, there would then be two people eligible to vote.

BB4, from Wikipedia
"The final veto competition occurred at the final four, not at the final five like the previous year. The Diamond veto was of the utmost importance to the game. At the competition, Alison emerged victorious, winning the power to remove herself from the nomination block and casting the sole eviction vote. Despite having promised both Jun and Erika to take them to final two, Alison chose to evict Erika."

I looked it up, and the POV winner has only once been the non HOH non-nominee, and that was Michael/Cowboy. He left the noms the same (Diane and Nakomis), and cast the sole vote as is always the prerogative of the one who is not on the block (and not HOH).

No one in that position would ever need to save someone by taking them off, because that person has the sole vote, and can save whichever one he wants in the vote process, not through the veto.

Only one other time has the veto winner not been a nominee, and that was BB9 when Ryan who was HOH won it. He did not change his noms.

The only two veto winners who were nominated and didn't use it on themselves were Marcellus and Danielle. Marcellus was at F5, and as we know paid the price for stupid.

Danielle left herself on the block and saved her father. This meant ##### was the one with the sole vote.

To sum-up, there are always two nominees. There are always two choices minimum for the vote, even for the final round, when the HOH gets the vote. The POV winner does not automatically get the sole vote at F4. It's the person who isn't on the block or HOH. In BB8 and BB9 both, the players voting (##### and Adam) were not veto winners.

Fair enough. I'd always understood it as a byproduct of the rules: Veto winner can't be nominated in place of a saved hamster, so removing one at F4 leaves one -- effectively casting your vote before the actual tally. Also your basic raised middle finger towards the HoH, the evictee, and probably the rest of the jury.

The rules as I understand them allow for it -- but the DR probably scrambles to keep it from happening. The show has little enough suspense without killing it that completely.

On the other hand, it would continue this season's tradition of no protest votes. My, this was a lot of sheep.

Is BB messing with them?

Shouldn't we have had a morph comp by now? I know Ragan was planning for one.

Also, last night's HOH was a curveball. Usually it's that step up/down comp with the three people in that circle type booth. I was not expecting that kind of comp last night.

Samboobree, brought to life by Arkie

Maybe they are trying not to be so predictable.

It might also be because their timing might've been thrown off slightly with the #14 hamster that didn't enter the cage... They had all the games planned out, but then had to move a couple around due to her not going in...

Expect the unexpected, I guess.

I wondered if it was because there seems to be mad studying going on in there.

Also, during Lane's HOH week, I found a new attraction to him, tats and all.

Samboobree, brought to life by Arkie

This one's currently in progress. Hayden is missing and the other three are tearing the cage apart looking for hidden objects, one of which is the HoH key. Each person may have one thing to look for -- no idea why or what they get if they find it. The feeds were out for nearly two hours before this came out, so there's a lot we could have missed.

I think this twist has run past its useful lifespan. (Two seconds.)

Apparently each houseguest had a coin (including Hayden) hidden somewhere in the house: Britney found two of them, no one found hers, and that put the money in her pocket. (Britney's was in the garbage, stuffed inside a cereal box with chicken wrapper padding -- and Hayden, before leaving, took out the trash.) They may have hidden their own coins: not sure just yet.

Lane may offer her his $91.12 as an even-up trade. Or possibly just the $0.12. (Lane: as bad at math as he wants to be.)

For what they're worth....

Lane/Britney

or at least it seems so... Trivia has been up for 2 1/2 hours.

It was the mostly annual Season In Review competition in some form and fashion...

Your winner? Hayden.

That should clinch an all-Brigade F3.

unless Hayden and Enzo have a sudden "brain" storm whispering to them that Britney would get fewer votes. I'm not at all sure that would be correct. They might also be afraid to compete against her for endurance. I don't know that loyalty to the Brigade has a place in this decision. It would be easy for them to rationalize that Lane favored Britney over them last week, and that one failure in loyalty deserves another.

On Satuday, while Hayden was in the DR, Enzo and Lane lowered the boom on Britney by revealing the Brigade alliance to her...

The steam seems to have gone out of this season.

This might be the first time I'm fine with any of the final four winning.

Samboobree, brought to life by Arkie

This makes for a boring season I think. Because I'm fine with any of the four and I really don't care. Seems I like having somebody to root against.

Be like me. Root against them anyway. Or at least make fun of them. Enzo and Hayden make lampooning them pretty easy.

And Lane wanting to take Britney to a bar and buy her a girly drink to quiet her down, then beat up her boyfriend? He's pretty easy to dislike, IMO.

If Britney goes, there goes my main source of entertainment, and I'll be sad.

If only Hayden had won the head shaving. If only.

I didn't like Lane after the animal cruelty comments. But I can't even dredge up enough emotion to actively dislike him.

*yawn

Hamsterwatch is reporting that from sometime today until after the show airs on Wednesday (possibly not until midnight EDT, so that the Westies aren't early spoiled...) the feeds will be shut down.

This will be because they will be taping Wednesday's 'Live' show and Final HoH Part 1 during that time... They've already had the camera yesterday, and there has been massive construction underway in the backyard.

Via some peeps from Twitter in attendance:

Britney was evicted.

The endurance comp is Jungle themed, and it has them on vines banging into one wall, then a waterfall, then another wall... (basically a modified version of the George of the Jungle endurance HoH they had during BB10...)

Hayden won part 1 of the final HOH challenge.