Remember: this is Big Brother and the concept of game balance is only present as long as it's funny. The Usual Gang Of Idiots (production, not hamsters) could throw absolutely anything into Pandora's Box and not only fail to see the long-term damage it would do, but completely fail to care.

Bring out your ideas. And remember the first rule of Grodner: it only flies if it's stupid!

• RE: How do you make someone 'The most powerful HoH ever'?,vince3, 07:44 AM, 08-06-10
• RE: How do you make someone 'The most powerful HoH ever'?,vince3, 07:46 AM, 08-06-10
• RE: How do you make someone 'The most powerful HoH ever'?,Estee, 07:48 AM, 08-06-10
• RE: How do you make someone 'The most powerful HoH ever'?,michel, 08:03 AM, 08-06-10
  • RE: How do you make someone 'The most powerful HoH ever'?,LFJ, 10:22 AM, 08-06-10
• Now we know,vince3, 09:31 PM, 08-08-10
  • RE: Now we know,michel, 10:53 PM, 08-08-10
    • RE: Now we know,Estee, 07:42 AM, 08-09-10
      • RE: Now we know,Snidget, 08:13 AM, 08-09-10
      • RE: Now we know,michel, 08:13 AM, 08-09-10
        • RE: Now we know,Outfrontgirl, 07:58 PM, 08-09-10
          • RE: Now we know,Estee, 08:17 PM, 08-09-10
            • RE: Now we know,Outfrontgirl, 00:31 AM, 08-10-10
              • RE: Now we know,Round Robin, 00:50 AM, 08-10-10
                • RE: Now we know,kingfish, 08:35 AM, 08-10-10
                  • RE: Now we know,Round Robin, 02:03 AM, 08-11-10
                    • RE: Now we know,kingfish, 09:36 AM, 08-11-10
                      • RE: Now we know,Round Robin, 00:26 AM, 08-12-10

Full contestant choice: instead of reaching into the bag, the HoH gets 3 'Houseguest Choices' (Ragan's Veto Ticket, be damned... they'll play with 7 this week!) and picks the players himself. Which means that if he gets 3 choices, Matt will most likely pick Lane, Enzo, and Hayden, sending the complete Brigade in against the Showmance Nominees... and Ragan.

Total Control: There won't be a POV this week at all, whoever he nominates are guaranteed to sit in the chairs on Thursday... They'll at least get to see Jef/Jordan before they break up for the Jury House, though...

Back to Back, with benefits: Can play in the next HoH competition, and gets a Veto Ticket so he can play in the POV next time as well, guaranteed.

Ultimate Torture: By opening Pandora's Box, he not only potentially releases the Stabo, but the ENTIRE house becomes Have Nots, except him.

1. Matt gets to play next week. In fact, Matt gets to play every week. It's outwardly halfway subtle, it gives him a chance at continuous power & protection and in the hands of the right player, it destroys the game as we know it.

2. Matt gets to outright name the next HoH: no competition required. End of season.

3. Matt receives one automatic Coup because America loves him that much.. Ibid.

I like the idea of Matt being able to play in the next HOH but how about a "get out of jail free" card? He cannot be nominated next week.

It might be fun if the HOH became a double-edged sword, and whoever wanted the power enough to win, had to pay the price of say - being outed for a hurtful lie they told about their spouse on national tv - and then find a way to live with it in the house for the next 6 - 8 weeks. We might get to see the "squirm smirk".

Diamond POV returns to play.

He can use it in the next two weeks to same himself/someone else... Not only that, he picks the replacement nominee.

This is a practical Game Over for the rest of the cage.

End of game? It makes it tough but not impossible depending on who wins HOH. If one of the brigade wins it, the diamond POV becomes pointless anyway. If the remaining pair of Brenchel wins the HOH, we can assume that Hayden and Matt are going up. Matt removes himself, puts up Kathy, she leaves and we wind up with 4 Brigadiers vs 3 floaters. The next HOH could restore balance IF they nominate two brigadiers. OR... the Brigade starts thinking Matt has kept too many secrets and they vote him out.

Also, if Ragan plays his hand properly, the House could even think that Matt had to accept the role of saboteur to get the POV! I'd try to frame Matt for every sabotag action.

There are a few questions linked to this latest in BB's series of Really Bad Ideas.

Is the regular veto still in play? It might be possible to wipe two nominees off the block in a single session.

The Blingie holder gets to put up the replacement of his choice. Are there limits on that? Can you take someone who just saved themselves and U-turn them back onto the block? Attack an outside party who did the saving? Is the HoH vulnerable? How many rules are being violated here?

Why two weeks? The first week is your HoH: you're not going to use the Blingie unless you want to open The Ultimate Backdoor -- with all the payback that implies. It's effectively a one-week power: why not describe it as such?

Can the Blingie be stolen and used by the new holder? Traded? Sold at a pawnshop for the value of the plastic and paste-on sparkles? ($0.35.)

And, as always: what's the point of asking this? It's a BB twist. Historically, the odds of it being invoked are about one in eight...

Well, at least giving it to Matt may up the chances it will be used (and I do agree that having the blingy of doom active during your HOH reign is a bit odd so it is really mostly a one week thing).

I'm sure in Matt's super evil genius brain (patent pending) even the most ridiculous use of the blingy of doom will be some insanely complicated evil that will get him to the end even if what he does looks like the worst idea possible.

Good questions. Maybe Phil can tell us about the U-turn...

I'd say that the HOH will be safe because even the coup d'État couldn't touch HOH.

LAST EDITED ON 08-09-10 AT 08:00 PM (EST)

yeah, it should work like the diamond power of veto has always done. HOH is safe. Normally the diamond veto is at F3, is it not? So the person who is not HOH nor won the veto gets evicted. No real choice involved.

I am sure there will be a regular veto comp, because Matt's power is secret and he may elect not to use it. His power probably comes into play after the veto holder does his/her thing and the HOH picks any replacement.

I'm thinking at that point that Matt can choose to save either the other person who was on the block (or one of the two if veto not used), or he could override the HOH's choice for replacement and replace that person -- which could be himself if they were trying to back door him.

If Brendan had won HOH this week he would have bought himself a chance to make it until he was eligible to play again. This comp was tailored to Matt though.

I don't think the diamond power would allow Matt to put up the Veto holder. The veto holder is supposed to be safe from nomination, and I doubt they would change that.

ETA that if EG is able to restrain himself, and he and his alliance are not in danger next week, his best move is not to use it, because Enzo, Lane, Hayden are not going to like that he lied to them. Even though the rules said he couldn't tell anyone.

This concept is going to sound odd no matter how I put it:

Letting the diamond veto override the golden will kill the integrity of the game. (Or what very little integrity it might still somehow retain.) It took a lot of tinkering to get contestants using the veto at all: unless the winner was already on the block, there were thoughts of payback, retaliation, and instant anti-karma. Make the diamond into 'Remember the results of that competition? Don't' and the normal veto will spiral into paranoia. Use it? Sure, go ahead and use it on your block-trapped ally -- it's not as if the producers would whip out an override. Again. At least not more than eight times a season.

But in this cartoonish game, integrity of play only stays around until the moment destroying it would be funny...

You lost me at "integrity."

*nah, I understand what you mean*

This is probably a lot of bandwidth and TV time wasted for nothing. Matt won't use it this week, as if Britney doesn't use the veto he will merely allow his noms to stand, and if she does use it, he will go straight to who he wants as the replacement nominee and will save the power for next week. Then next week depending on how HoH, noms and PoV go, there's still a hell of a good chance it will not be used. Bottom line is that if Matt is a loyal Brigade member, I doubt you see it get used.

If we don't waste it, someone else will.

Yeah, but I hate the way Grodner misleads all the doofuses out there in TV land with her overhyped bull$hit. She has the common ordinary humanoids who watch SeeBS's hogwash all hepped up into a lather over something that there's a 75% or better chance won't even bear fruit. And most of the relatively tiny percentage of us who read internet spoiler boards know the whole deal is probably nothing but a big crock of bull$hit. So why do we treat it with any degree of respect?

LAST EDITED ON 08-11-10 AT 12:45 PM (EST)

No offense, I think I get your point. But I think we are treating it with the respect it deserves.

Derision. Snark. The entertainment derived from observing undeveloped (mentally) hamsters in a psychological maze.

We need to get humping in Bashers again.

I'll second that. Things seem to have gone dead over there lately.