There was discussion about that on the idols forum as well. "Over the rainbow" was broadway after the movie, so it might be a loophole.

As for changing the theme, it has happened before. And doing a broadway theme makes sense, because it is very easy to get those rights quickly and may have always been a back up.

I am wondering why people at the taping haven't posted--is it that Idol has been cracking down on people leaking it? If you do it online, you are pretty much safe as no one really knows your name.

"The Simon of the Wabash Valley"

It was only taped when there were more than 10 contestants due to time constraints. its all live now.

geekboy

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>>"Over the rainbow" was broadway after the movie, so it might be a loophole.<<

Sorry to be a stickler - it was never on Broadway. Check www.ibdb.com if you doubt me. (that's the Internet Broadway Database - like IMDB but for Broadway).

>>because it is very easy to get those rights quickly and may have always been a back up<<

I don't know why it would be any easier to get these rights than pop song rights. They would still have to talk to whichever company owns them & possibly pay for it. Tams, MTI or French typically handles rights for fully staged productions, but I have no idea if it would be them, ASCAP or BMI that would authorize the performance of individual songs. In any case, I'm guessing the procedure would be very similar to getting rights for pop songs.

(etf spelling -- doh!)

>I don't know why it would be any easier to get
>these rights than pop song rights.

It wouldn't be any different. The rights would have to be licensed through one of the performance companies (e.g., ASCAP, BMI) and the cost for TV use would have to be arranged with the publisher.

what about the Diana Ross version-The Wiz, didn't that go on B-way?
Perhaps the big question is who do you think will do "Summertime" this year.... will that song become the next 'must do' song for the contestants?? Forget Whitney it's Porgy & Bess....

>>what about the Diana Ross version-The Wiz, didn't that go on B-way?<<

Absolutely -- It was a Broadway show before it was a film.

But "Over the Rainbow" is not in it. All the music is totally different from the Garland film.

Ahh, ok. I have to admit I know nothing about Broadway except for the songs on my 'Broadway hits' CD collection I got at Costco...

btw re: the Beatles theme... Michael Jackson is the one who holds the rights to all the songs, you'd think he would want some spare change at this point......

btw re: the Beatles theme... Michael Jackson is the one who holds the rights to all the songs, you'd think he would want some spare change at this point......

He probably also has other things on his mind at the moment and couldn't be bothered to consider the request (if there was one).

I'd lvoe to see a Beatles night, though. Best.band.ever.

Hi Spidey,
that's why I was thinking he could use some quick cash........ Maybe he gave the songs away instead of cash for a few settlements.....

My 7 (nearly 8!) year old looves the Beatles he has a compilation CD that has Moonlight Bay on it and it is such a crack up to hear him warble it out I hope he will sing it to me when his voice starts changing... oh, what a bad mommy! But it would be so cute!

My son is 8 and loves the Beatles. just like his mommy and daddy. Goes to sleep with a different album playing on his walkman every night. Younger (5) sister in now in training too.

Classic rock mommys rule!

Classic rock Daddy has him liking the Eagles (and Bob Marley) He loves to sing "itchy woman". Now that's one for the books.. the classic dilemma do I correct the word or make a memory for my old age?? ah heck...that's what therapy is for.

Just think how you can embarass him in front of dates!!

who me!

Ryan Seacrest announced on his radio show tonight's theme is "musicals". This could possibly clear up the "Somewhere over the Rainbow song".

I'm a long-time lurker who never posts, but wanted to share one bit of info with ya'll. Our local talk radio station does a recap/discussion of AI every Thursday morning. Last Thursday they had one of the producers on, and she said that the theme for tonight was "Show Tunes". I just wanted to clear up the rumor of a last minute theme change because this has been planned since at least last Thursday morning.

Thanks for the info, and you should have posted this Thursday!!!!

Of course, when you posted it, you should have followed the proper SPOILER posting guidelines.....

geekboy

I know I should have posted Thursday, but I'm new at this and still a little hesitant. I think they may have this producer on every Thursday, so if she dishes on the theme again, I will post it Thursday morning -- following the appropriate spoiler guidelines of course.

Problem I have with a broadway type theme... is that the judges often dismiss voices who are more meant for "broadway" so that kinda is silly in my mind... I mean let's say it is broadway, so those who do excellent, what would the judges reaction be... that was good you clearly belong on Broadway and not American Idol? LOL

I agree with what you are saying. I cannot see Nikko, Scott or Bo and Constatine pulling off these types of songs with Nikko being by far the one who cannot. He has so far done upbeat, Jackson 5, etc. type songs. They are supposedly singing songs from Man of La Mancha, Sound of Musci, King & I, Liver, Camelot, Babes in Arms, West Side story and Sound of Music.
From this, the girls should all be ok. Also, Anwar should be able to nail this night. It will be interesting.

"Liver"?

Oliver?

At least it's not Spleen - the musical.

That musical allegedly had a showstopper number called,
"Appendix!".....but they had to take it out.

Ducking for cover.

"wiping the spit take off computer screen..."

Thanks for the laugh!!!

Bo would do just fine with the title song from "Hair".

However, because the theme is 'muscials' it opens up a whole new realm of possibilites. I would personally like to see Bo do something from Hedwig and the Angry Inch (not that it would ever happen)....but practically any movie that has music throughout would be fair game...and think about all the pop songs contained within "Moulin Rouge"

>>is that the judges often dismiss voices who are more meant for "broadway" so that kinda is silly in my mind<<

*sigh* This is something that's been bugging me from the beginning -- In fact, I think I may start a thread on it.

As a trained, professional musical theater and cabaret performer, it chaps my hide when they 'condemn' some contestants as "too broadway" or "too cabaret".

Particularly when it's a BAD performance -- if someone can't sing a pop song with honesty & sincerity, WTF makes him think they could act a ROLE or sing in an intimate cabaret setting with honesty & sincerety?

Argh!!! I think I will compose my thoughts and start a thread

Thanks guys and dolls for clearing it up. Atlantic--thanks for the info and if you would keep us informed we would be most grateful.

I hope someone does a song from "South Park The Movie"

"The Simon of the Wabash Valley"

I'll take "Blame Canada" for the win, Bob.

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Just imagine Carrie singing 'Shut your fu@king face, uncle fucker!' Or Scott singing 'Kyle's mom is a big fat b!tch.'

Excellent.