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"Results Show August 24"
Posted by seahorse on 08-24-05 at 08:43 PM
Tonight's show is an hour long. What are they going to do to pass that much time when it could be over in 5 minutes.
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"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by seahorse on 08-24-05 at 08:50 PM
Recap of last night.
"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by seahorse on 08-24-05 at 08:53 PM
Dave got onto JD about not fighting to sing his original song. I think JD was smart not to fight for an original song.

JD has the bar set high for him on writing songs, so even if he wrote a great song it would be expected of him.

"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by seahorse on 08-24-05 at 08:54 PM
They are showing the reaction of the contestants after they got back after the show last night.
"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by seahorse on 08-24-05 at 09:07 PM
MIG and Deanna are happy with the original songs they sang, but Jordis was very disappoined. Marty said he purposely went against INXS's wishes and that he did shout during his song.
"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by seahorse on 08-24-05 at 08:57 PM
Suzie gets the encore song, so she obviously won't be in the bottom 3. But why don't they make them sing a different song than they sang last night.

"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by seahorse on 08-24-05 at 09:09 PM
The band says they were testing Marty with their comments, but he said he had to meet them halfway andd be who he is. They thought his answer was great.
"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by Iam_Xtreme on 08-24-05 at 11:30 PM
I liked Marty's answer and I think the band respected it.


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"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by seahorse on 08-25-05 at 00:15 AM
You are absolutely right. He probably spent the week deciding what to say if they asked him about not following their advise.
"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by seahorse on 08-24-05 at 09:11 PM
The band said that JD's voice is perfectly suited for INXS's music.
"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by seahorse on 08-24-05 at 09:15 PM
Only Suzie was not in the bottom three at sometime last night. She is the only one totally safe so far. Final bottom three will be revealed soon.

"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by seahorse on 08-24-05 at 09:21 PM
Ty is in the bottom 3. He sings "What You Need."
"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by seahorse on 08-24-05 at 09:23 PM
The band thought he did a very good job.
"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by Darth Sarcastic on 08-24-05 at 09:24 PM
SOFTBALL OF THE CENTURY WITH THAT ONE... TY KILLED THAT ONE. HOWEVER LET'S HOPE THEY BOOT TWO TONITE!


THE DARK ONE

"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by seahorse on 08-24-05 at 09:26 PM
I thought they would boot more than one another time this seasson because of low ratings, but what do they go and do. They make a 1 hour results show, so who knows.
"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by CattyChat on 08-25-05 at 08:02 AM
The ratings have been going up, thankfully.

"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by Loree on 08-24-05 at 11:20 PM
To me Ty more or less insulted the voting public. He made it sound like the voters were not smart enough to vote for him. Even though he knows he is right for INXS and they need him. That is not a smart thing to do. I expect he will be in the bottom 3 again next week.
"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by seahorse on 08-24-05 at 09:24 PM
Deanna is also in the bottom 3. She sings Elegantly Waisted.
"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by Darth Sarcastic on 08-24-05 at 09:27 PM
Deanna would be great at my local bar. Buh Bye!


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"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by seahorse on 08-24-05 at 09:29 PM
I agree with you, she should be gone.
"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by seahorse on 08-24-05 at 09:28 PM
The band definitely is not in a criticizing mood. Nothing but favorable comments so far.
"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by Darth Sarcastic on 08-24-05 at 09:32 PM
Seahorse it's all you... but let's pray they boot two or maybe three tonight. Oh and Brooke Burke isn't as annoying tonight.


Darth Sarcastic... OUT!!

"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by Wacko Jacko on 08-24-05 at 11:24 PM
Geez, some people really hate ty. I don't. he should not of even been in the bottom three in the first place.

This wednesday night show is really tough. Here you are totally bummed because you are in the bottom three and you gotta get up there and perform your hearts out.....the situation is unreal. I mean when does a real rock singer go under those conditions.

I think all the Rock Stars were very emotional tonight. The right person went home.

"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by seahorse on 08-24-05 at 09:32 PM
Marty is in the bottom 3. Jordis is too lucky.

Marty sings Don't Change.

"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by seahorse on 08-24-05 at 09:36 PM
If Marty goes home, I would faint.
"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by dreamerbeliever on 08-24-05 at 11:03 PM
LAST EDITED ON 08-24-05 AT 11:53 PM (EST)

That was fantastic! Marty totally nailed Don't Change and it may have been the best INXS cover I've heard to date. Him being in bottom 3 and having to sing that was a huge plus. Amazing what he can do when Manic Marty is put in the straight jacket for a song. Actually I'd put that performance in my top 10 or 15 of the entire series. Nice job Marty.

editing because after a little more thought, putting Don't Change by Marty in top 5 of the entire series was a little high. Top 10 or 15 is more like it Still think he totally nailed it however.

"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by Loree on 08-24-05 at 11:23 PM
I guess I am just not seeing what everyone else sees. But I didn't find Marty fantastic doing INXS. I was bored. I didn't think it was anything special. But then that is just me.
"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by Wacko Jacko on 08-25-05 at 09:09 AM
I think Marty nailed it also. He mimicked Michael Hutchence yet put a twist on the song. I proved that he could do INXS and something different last night. His stock rose nicely last night. Kudos to Marty.
"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by funkalicious on 08-25-05 at 06:21 PM
I like Marty's personality and he does some cool moves up there - and are his eyes getting bluer? Maybe it's the eyeliner ... but honest to god, the man cannot sing!!! He has presence on stage, but Dave's comments about how it's not about hitting notes are KILLING me.

DON'T CHANGE is a fantastic song and Marty absolutely slaughtered it. I grew up loving that song and I loathed his performance. The guy isn't missing a note here & there, he's missing entire verses. Even his screaming is off key. If you're gonna scream, do it for quick dramatic effect ... and do it ON KEY. I'm starting to think that Dave & the band are tone deaf because Marty is seriously seriously bad.

I'm sorry, but when you're listening to a CD or the radio, it's not about stage presence -- it's about singing, hitting notes, conveying the appropriate emotion, taking your audience on an emotional journey through highs and lows. Music is storytelling, and growling all the way through a song is a lazy way of showing an edge or conveying angst. Oh, and you can't look at the audience like you're an axe murderer.

Now that I'm on a roll, I also hated his rendition of Arms Wide Open. It's a story of anticipation and joy versus the angst of past mistakes. That anger doesn't need to be conveyed through shouting. It needs to be balanced with softness. Marty failed to deliver the nuance and beauty -- he just gritted his teeth and menaced his way through it. Awful awful in my book.

"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by LaLaLisa on 08-26-05 at 10:40 AM
I think Dave has consistently said that rock is not about hitting ALL the notes - not that the notes don't matter at all.

Good point about stage presence not translating onto a CD or over the radio. I hadn't thought of that.

I don't think most people can tell if a singer is on pitch or not - myself included. I just know if something sounds good or bad to me.

And here's the real sad part - I saw an article in The Washington Post weeks ago (couldn't find it again to link) about how it's standard in the industry to use software to correct pitch. A singer can sing just about any old thing and it gets cleaned up. This was after the whole Ashlee Simpson debacle. Explaining why so many singers lip-sync so-called live performances - there's no way they can match the sound of the studio.

So that was a long way of saying that it doesn't matter what his voice is for the CD.

"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by Iam_Xtreme on 08-24-05 at 11:33 PM
I think Marty nailed that song!


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"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by seahorse on 08-24-05 at 09:35 PM
Jordis sucked so bad last night but she stays safe. Not real.
"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by Loree on 08-24-05 at 09:38 PM
Jordis' fans were so scared after that performance that they spent all night voting.
"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by dreamerbeliever on 08-24-05 at 10:53 PM
Now don't be lumping all Jordis fans together Loree This one wanted to see her in the bottom 3. Shoulda been make or break night for her. Voted 7 times last night, 3 each for Suzie & Ty and yes even one for JD. Believe me it was painful to do but JD did derserve one from me.


"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by Loree on 08-24-05 at 11:24 PM
I think Jordis herself was upset she wasn't in the bottom 3.

I wish that next week they would make all of them sing an INXS song. Then afterwards tell them which ones were the bottom 3 and make everyone else sit down. And boot one of the bottom 3. But we would finally get to see how they all deal with an INXS song.

"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by Iam_Xtreme on 08-24-05 at 11:38 PM
Her performance last night was by far the worst of the night! Sorry, I am not a Jordis fan and think that she will be going home in a few weeks.


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"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by Wacko Jacko on 08-25-05 at 09:14 AM
I agree, because the situation they are put in when they have to sing an INXs is unreal. They are put in a losing situation....I came see it being hard finding out you are in the bottom three...being bummed and all and have to turn it around in seconds and go up there. Ty for example, didn't think he belonged in the bottom three and was shocked to see that he was. He almost had tears in his eyes and had to get up there in seconds and perform a random INXs song. That is tough. THis week put them all in a situation where they have time to rehearse an INXs song and be in the right mood when they do it. I don't know what they are waiting for. Geezo, how does INXs know that MiG, Jordis or JD are right for INXs. They don't!
"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by Loree on 08-25-05 at 09:26 AM
Well INXS has heard them all singing INXS songs for radio broadcasts. It is just us that have not heard them all singing those songs. Plus they all practice the 3 INXS songs that are going to be used on the elimination show. So the band could watch the practice.

But as there are less and less competitors I think they should let the viewers see all of them sing INXS. It is to the point that people's fans almost want their person to be in the bottom 3 just so they can see them do it. And that is very strange.

"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by me144 on 08-25-05 at 11:03 AM
LAST EDITED ON 08-25-05 AT 11:05 AM (EST)

I'm sure that somewhere along the line everyone had to sing at least one INXS song that they saw; at auditions or on tape from them practicing.

--- But I agree, at this point I think they all should perform an INXS song on TV.

"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by seahorse on 08-24-05 at 09:41 PM
LAST EDITED ON 08-24-05 AT 09:41 PM (EST)

They are trying to scare the contestants like AI does. Deanna goes home tonight.

"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by toddE on 08-24-05 at 11:40 PM
I don't think Deanna should have been eliminated this week. But that often happens on these programs. Jordis, JD, Marty and Mig were all pretty craptacular on a show where everyone is actually usually good. But Deanna lost it last week when she seemed to have thrown in the towel, and now it caught up to her. Ty is next, then Suzie. THEN things will get interesting.


"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by seahorse on 08-24-05 at 09:43 PM
Deanna is a real DAW. She says she watches a lot of Reality TV and sees people voted off all the time, but she knows it is tough to be voted out.
"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by shanana banana on 08-25-05 at 08:12 AM
I'm actually going to change my negativity over Marty's musical "inability" to sing like an INXS singer and say he's big time back in the running after his performance of "Don't Change" in last night's show. He's been irritating me with his nothing-but-grunge sound in the last four weeks, but he proved he can deliver the goods when necessary.

I'm putting him as a top contender for the spot now. This is where I knew it was going to get really interesting. Everybody left now is really good --- now we'll get to hear them all sing INXS songs and see who can deliver and who cannot.

"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by me144 on 08-25-05 at 11:21 AM
Marty was great! It definitely was a good thing for him that he was in the bottom 3 this week. I personally have always thought he was a top contender to win it all, though recently I had Mig edging him out. Now I'm not sure which way it will go. We need to see them all sing INXS songs soon.
"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by AndrewTN on 08-25-05 at 04:05 PM
Yea he did ok but lets face it that song was probably one of the most suited for him. How would he have fared with Elegantly Wasted for example or Suicide Blonde?
"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by LaLaLisa on 08-26-05 at 10:44 AM
>Yea he did ok but lets
>face it that song was
>probably one of the most
>suited for him. How would
>he have fared with Elegantly
>Wasted for example or Suicide
>Blonde?


I think they do that on purpose - give them the song to sing that would be easiest for them. There was another discussion thread about how hard it is for them to sing in those circumstances - singing for their life on the show - and how unfair to put them in such circumstances. So that's why I think they give them a softball song to sing - just being in the bottom 3 puts them waaaay outside their comfort zone.

"RE: Just Plain Wrong"
Posted by CattyChat on 08-25-05 at 08:33 AM
It is the time when we are down to the most talented of the bunch & it's time to get serious & vote fairly on each "single" performance or not vote at all. It is just plain wrong that the absolute worst performance, by a landslide, Tue night is NOT in the bottom 3. I can't wait for Sun night's show to see what happens when they get back to the house.

Ty has every right to be upset that he was in the bottom 3 last night. Unfortunately, his over-the-top personality is starting to hurt him in the voting, but he did have one of the better performances. Honestly, the bottom should have been between Jordis, Marty, Deanna & MiG, because they just weren't as spectacular as J.D., Suzie & Ty.

I was really disappointed in Dave because of his reaction to Marty being in the bottom 3. Let's face it, Marty's vocals were terrible Tue, the only worse vocals being Jordis. Yes, his "stage performance" was great & rock star like, but he really slaughtered a great song & he knew it & admitted it. Also, while I respect Marty not wanting to change his style (he shouldn't & I think he would be great heading another band), I really thought it was disrespectful that he admitted to doing the exact opposite of what INXS has been asking for AND to the Nth degree. I do have to admit that he did good on "Don't Change," not spectacular, but it was better than Ty & Deanna's performances, by far.

Now is the time for each performer to take the repurcussions for their performances & their "fans" should reflect that in the voting. This is not AI, where the lowest voter gets the boot, no matter what. If they perform badly, they have a second chance to "redeem" themselves to INXS. It is not fair to the better performances to disrespect them just because you like another's "looks" or "style" or whatever. It is also doing Jordis a disservice, as you could see the look on her face that she felt guilty by not being placed in the bottom 3 & she has to go back to the mansion after not being held accountable.

I just had to get these things off my chest. I know this is "reality tv" & shouldn't be taken seriously, but it just gets on my nerves that "talent competitions" end up not being about talent, but about who has the coolest look, style, where they live, who they know, where they've been, etc. (This is also following the travesty in voting on U Can Dance, it is just wrong.)


"RE: Just Plain Wrong"
Posted by Wacko Jacko on 08-25-05 at 09:19 AM
CattyChat, BINGO! You said it right. This aint about looks people.
"RE: Just Plain Wrong"
Posted by Loree on 08-25-05 at 09:40 AM
Luckily INXS does get to pick the winner and not the fans. The fans can guide the show but they can't make their fave win. Which is good. Only INXS knows what direction they want to go and who they feel comfortable working with.

INXS knows that Jordis didn't deserve to be out of the bottom 3. But they will now realize that of the last 6 some are getting votes simply because of their personality/looks/location rather than their talent. So now it really is up to them and I don't think the votes or bottom 3 will mean as much to them. They know to get this far they all have fans and potential.

What I wonder is if INXS has 3 faves of this 6 and those 3 all ended up in the bottom 3 next week. Would they still boot one of those and keep all the other 3 even if they are sure they don't want any of them? This is where it might get interesting. Of course the band could know exactly which one performer they want and they only need to save that person every week. Maybe they don't care what order the other 5 are booted. MB is editing this to keep us on our toes about who they do and don't like. Then you throw in Dave with his opinions. Which really don't matter, do they? Dave doesn't have to work with the one who wins.

"RE: Just Plain Wrong"
Posted by me144 on 08-25-05 at 11:12 AM
LAST EDITED ON 08-25-05 AT 11:14 AM (EST)

LAST EDITED ON 08-25-05 AT 11:12 AM (EST)

I agree with some of what you said (edited to add: Jordis should have been in the bottom three; and also I don't think past performances should be totally discounted, if someone just has one off night - she'd had more), but it it IS ALSO about looks, charisma, style, stage presence, whatever you want to call it. Something about the winner has to grab you; not necessarily a particular look - but something. I think it has to go along WITH the talent to back it up. And really everyone left is very talented, although perhaps not all to everyone's taste.

"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by youngatheart on 08-25-05 at 09:47 AM
Results of last night certainly wasn't a surprise with Deanna getting kicked off. Sure she's nice, has talent, but I didn't think her style or range fit the mold of the band. Actually would have enjoyed watching Ty take the walk. I liked him at first, but after a few weeks I'm thinking he's a little too over the top for my taste. Talented, yes. But not my choice.

The drama of who will be in the bottom three is getting a little too much. I'm not a big fan of stretching these things out for an hour anyway.

I think Marty did a good job but I'm not sure I agree with Dave's reaction of him being there. At this point in the game, anyone could end up there. I don't think there's one of them that is blowing this competition out of the water with the voting public. They are all talented in their own way and each week we all get to see them showcase it. Obviously Jordis was stunned she wasn't in the bottom three, but it shows you that it's not all about that one night's performance, it's the following you have developed over time. Then it's also a matter of where the votes are swaying that had once voted for a kicked off contestant. Who will Deanna's fans vote lean toward now.

I couldn't help but notice how all the rockers, except JD, were teary-eyed when saying good-bye to Deanna. Makes me think he is not letting himself get too close with the group...either that or he self-centered and doesn't really care as long as it's not him waving good-bye.

I see it coming down to Mig, JD and Marty.

"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by Wacko Jacko on 08-25-05 at 10:20 AM
As for JD, INXs said it best....he is the only one who appears to be getting it. JD knows that in the end one person will be standing. As long as it aint him he has to be happy. Each week he gets closer to the prize and he knows it and I think that puts a smile on his face....good for him.
"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by Loree on 08-25-05 at 10:27 AM
Since JD was wearing the shades it was impossible to tell if he was teary eyed or not.

I heard that during the show lastnight they were asked alot of questions like who is the house prankster. And everyone said JD. And a few stories were told about him. And also about Suzi trying to catch a peek of MiG when he was sleeping. She wanted to know if he slept naked under the sheet. But just as she was lifting the sheet MiG woke up and caught her. Also Brooke asked JD why he started out playing the game the way he did. He said he knew it was a reality show and everyone was very talented so he went into it playing it like Survivor meets he didn't know what. Then he realized nobody was playing that but him. So now he has tried to change that up.

"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by CattyChat on 08-25-05 at 12:21 PM
>I heard that during the show
>lastnight they were asked alot
>of questions like who is
>the house prankster . . .

Hey, Loree, where'd you get this cool piece of info? Wonder why they edited all that out of the show last night? Or did I slip into a semi-conscious state & miss all that?


"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by Loree on 08-25-05 at 12:46 PM
People that go to the live shows post alot of the stuff that never makes it past the editing. They have Q&A stuff while INXS is deciding who to boot. And the rockers answer questions.
"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by me144 on 08-25-05 at 06:36 PM
It's starting to seem as if Marty is as polarizing as JD. Mig may be the best choice for INXS after all.
"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by seahorse on 08-25-05 at 06:45 PM
MIG, is the favorite to win in my eyes.
"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by LaLaLisa on 08-26-05 at 10:51 AM
>It's starting to seem as if
>Marty is as polarizing as
>JD. Mig may be
>the best choice for INXS
>after all.


But polarizing is a good thing in rock, right? It generates publicity, attention, discussion, PR. No such thing as bad publicity, right?

I was just listening to an interview this morning with Jeff Tweedy of Wilco (small indy band and formerly of Uncle Tupelo.) He was asked about what reaction Wilco got to their first album. He replied, "Indifference." It hit me that "indifference" is the worst reaction you could get.

There are a lot of MiG-lovers out there (I do love his voice) but I think there are far too many MiG-indifferers out there for him to make it.

I think both Marty's & Ty's newfound combative/arrogant attitudes are because they realized JD's so-called bad boy role was working for him, not against him. Or it could be they are just getting more comfortable with themselves or have decided, "What the hell, I might as well go for broke."

"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by me144 on 08-26-05 at 01:04 PM
I think there are a lot of Mig lovers out there! As others have pointed out he's got many, many, many supporters in Australia, Philippines, and England, not to mention the US (where I'm writing from). He's obviously got as many strong supporters as Marty or JD.

I don't alienating bunches of people is good for any band that wants success - I don't like JD, nothing about him, including and most especially his performances, and I'll have nothing to do and pay no money towards any project or band he's involved with. Neither will others who dislike him (and NOT just his personality, - some people do not enjoy his performances and find them just as creepy and off-putting as some seem to find Marty).

I would definitely buy concert INXS concert tiks/music if Mig or Marty was fronting. Jordis, Ty I'd be curious about and maybe.

"RE: Results Show August 24"
Posted by Loree on 08-26-05 at 06:16 PM
Here is a photo of what Paul from the House Band looked like back when he was with Nelson.