Bebo:
Right you are! Dave's comedy is so much sharper and well thought out, with a real concept. And you get a feeling for who this guy is.

Dat's set was insulting not just to Asians but to anyone who is a thinking human being. His set was tired and old and he really beat it into the ground...he had very little if any, variation on his theme. Obviously he is "inspired" by Margaret Cho with his impressions of his mother and father....but Margaret Cho is not only funny, her humor gives you some insight into her family. Dat, who by the way even though he is Asian, does a lousy incomprehensible accent! And his humor, such as it is, is juvenille and to my mind, stupid. He has no real jokes so he jumps on stage bouncing around and shrieking his set as if all that energy will make of for that fact that his material is so thin.

The only reason he got the vote was that the sudience has the attention span of a flea and apparently voted for the the "last comic seen" because that was all they could remember. Too bad Dave didn't perform afer Dat, then he surely would have won because the audience would have just seen him!

FunnyGal 1

>>>Dave's comedy is so much sharper and well thought out, with a real concept<<<

You are exactly right, FunnyGal. Out of all the acts I've seen (which actually isn't many), I have to say that Dave's act is the most logical and flows the best out of anyone. However, I think our agreement ends there...

>>>Dat's set was insulting not just to Asians but to anyone who is a thinking human being.<<<

I disagree. I thought his act was hilarious. I don't think it was insulting at all, and while I can see comedy as being insulting in the right context, I thought this was far from it. Rather, it poked fun at the typical mannerisms of a demographic group. That's what comics do, and it's funny. Is he saying that every Asian in the world acts exactly like his parents? Of course not! But rather, I'm sure many Asians would be able to recognize a little bit of their parents in his description.

>>>His set was tired and old and he really beat it into the ground...he had very little if any, variation on his theme<<<

Yeah, that's true. But every comic has to have their thing. Fact is, Dat is Asian, he knows how Asians act. Why not stick with what he knows? And I don't see his sticking to that one thing as necessarily bad (a lot of very good comics do that), just different.

>>>Obviously he is "inspired" by Margaret Cho with his impressions of his mother and father....but Margaret Cho is not only funny, her humor gives you some insight into her family<<<

I'm glad you brought up Margaret Cho, because she really does prove my bracketed point above. I do agree that his act was very similar to hers (I said as much to my Dad, who was watching with me), but I really do love Margaret. I could literally sit there and watch her act over and over again and laugh every single time I saw it. I think Dat has a lot of similar experiences, being Vietnamese, and it shows in his act.

>>>Dat, who by the way even though he is Asian, does a lousy incomprehensible accent<<<

Yeah, that was definitely true. But, IMO, that made it funny. I probably wouldn't laugh as hard at a perfectly accurate Asian accent.

>>>And his humor, such as it is, is juvenille and to my mind, stupid. He has no real jokes...<<<

Well, I suppose we can agree to disagree here. It's all just a matter of opinion. Different people like different kinds of humour. I thought the joke at the end of his act ("Two Asians walk into a bar...") was absolutely hilarious.

>>>...so he jumps on stage bouncing around and shrieking his set as if all that energy will make of for that fact that his material is so thin.<<<

And sometimes it does. Energy and spirit and focus counts for a lot when you're trying to impress people. Even if his act was perhaps a bit less funny than Dave's (which it was), I think that the energy he showed swinging it over to his side is no crime.

>>>The only reason he got the vote was that the sudience has the attention span of a flea and apparently voted for the the "last comic seen" because that was all they could remember<<<

I wouldn't say the only reason, but a reason? For sure.

>>>Too bad Dave didn't perform afer Dat, then he surely would have won because the audience would have just seen him!<<<

I think it would have been closer at the very least.

So maybe I was wrong, we don't really disagree about the facts. We just perceive and interpret them differently

(Another IceCat original )

Wow, Survivorerist!

I haven't been disected like that since my surgery back in '97!
But I take your point(s). I just felt that Dat's "Asian" humor was tired and very stereotyped. And my main problem with his cartoonish Asian accent was that he screamed his material when he was using that accent and I for one, found it difficult to understnd everything he was saying.

And I stil don't think he's funny. I'm a comic and I know that comics use their life experiences...I certainly do, but I try not to stay on one aspect of that experience for my entire routine. Anyway, if they do a second "Last Comic Standing" I'm going to audition for it (I must be a masochist!)...Yikes! What if I got into the house?!!?! I'd better rethink this one.

But while I'm at it...Tess must go! Its one thing to have self-confidence, but she really is full of herself and there is a real nasty streak in her, I think.

FunnyGal1

>>>I just felt that Dat's "Asian" humor was tired and very stereotyped.<<<

True, very true.

>>>And I stil don't think he's funny. I'm a comic<<<

And I'm an Asian, so I guess that makes us about even

>>>my main problem with his cartoonish Asian accent was that he screamed his material when he was using that accent and I for one, found it difficult to understnd everything he was saying.<<<

I don't know about you, and you're probably right (what am I saying? It's your opinion, so it's definitely right! ) but that's what an Asian accent sounds like (okay, so not exactly, but in the general area). I understood it, but only because I've heard it a lot (my uncle talks exactly like his impression of his dad, but a little more garbled because he talks fast)

>>>Anyway, if they do a second "Last Comic Standing" I'm going to audition for it (I must be a masochist!)<<<

I had a masochist once, my nails actually turned out quite nice

>>>Yikes! What if I got into the house<<<

You had better pray. Hard.

(Another IceCat original )

Have to agree 100%. I'd like to see him perform in front of an audience with a brain-he'd crash & burn. Dave M was bangin'. Would like to see him and Rich do an act together.

I did think that Dave was funnier than Dat last night, but his energy was low and he seemed a little off his stride. Dat's energy was higher and he connected with the audience (obviously). I was also surprised at how at ease he appeared in front of the audience, knowing that he doesn't have a lot of experience doing stand up. Only after we see his next set will we have an idea if his repetoire extends beyond "my funny Asian family."

I like Dave's humor, and I have no doubt he is very talented. Hopefully the exposure he got from doing the show will produce results for him.

What I don't like is the way the whole "us against Dat" drama has played out. It makes all of them look bad to me. Grow the f up! Dat is definitely annoying, seems like a hyper kid and rather immature for his age - but he has taken the 'ha ha, joke's on you' and general picking and sniping at him with pretty damn good grace. And no one can say this guy doesn't work his butt off trying to be a good comedian. So he has charts and index cards? So what? It worked on last night's crowd.

I personally loved watching Tess, Cory and Vos, as they listened, dismayed, as the crowd reacted to Dat. It was priceless. I love a good come-uppance! This show definitely has me hooked.

Mmmm Topaz