LAST EDITED ON 08-28-07 AT 05:16 PM (EST)

>What sort of thread do you
>think I'm running around here,
>anyway?!

One that's ending up much more fun than it started out, that's for sure! LOL!

"Let them call me rebel and welcome, I feel no concern from it; but I should suffer the misery of devils, were I to make a whore of my soul by swearing allegiance to one whose character is that of a sottish, stupid, stubborn, worthless, brutish man. I conceive likewise a horrid idea in receiving mercy from a being, who at the last day shall be shrieking to the rocks and mountains to cover him, and fleeing with terror from the orphan, the widow, and the slain of America." Thomas Paine

Edited to make just a little bit of sense.

People seem to be in a race to say, "Hey, I would get naked!" That's not the problem. I don't give a good goddamn who wants to get naked or who thinks they would have done it under those circumstances.

It's the coercion of people who weren't expecting to have to do it and the fact that it was completely unnecessary that are the problems, but nobody seems to be getting that.

Hey, I know! Let's have Eric eat pork! Or, wait... let's have Jameka rip pages out of her Bible! Who cares if it's something they would normally never do? If they're trying to win in this show, they damned well better be willing to do whatever demeaning thing we want them to do, right? Right?

Pretty pathetic excuse for entertainment if you ask me.

If it were a show where the expectation was you wouldn't be filmed getting in and out of the shower, etc. maybe I'd feel differently.

I mean once you agree to camera's in the bathroom you've pretty much said you will do anything on camera. I do not know that they were told as to what to expect in the way of what they will be asked to do in competitions (given the show's theme is expect the unexpected I'm pretty sure they are told to expect anything and everything and had a chance to back out if they weren't willing, they didn't force them off the street and into the house). Even if you know there is an outside chance you might be asked to strip all your clothes off it can still be a bit of a shock when you find out now is the moment. Most of those who seemed most uncomfortable at first sure did seem to be fine with it as the competition when on.

I'm not sure why this nekkid competition is somehow more degrading or coersive than pouring disguting stuff on your head every hour for 24 hours or any of the other things that no person in their right mind would do on camera or off.

Was it gratuitous, absolutely. But so is pretty much everything else on the show.

No one was coerced. They could have chosen not to do it. They signed up for it. If they didn't know what BB was, then shame on them. These are DAWs, dude. They'll do anything to get face time on TV or they wouldn't be here.

"Let them call me rebel and welcome, I feel no concern from it; but I should suffer the misery of devils, were I to make a whore of my soul by swearing allegiance to one whose character is that of a sottish, stupid, stubborn, worthless, brutish man. I conceive likewise a horrid idea in receiving mercy from a being, who at the last day shall be shrieking to the rocks and mountains to cover him, and fleeing with terror from the orphan, the widow, and the slain of America." Thomas Paine

>People seem to be in a
>race to say, "Hey, I
>would get naked!" That's not
>the problem. I don't give
>a good goddamn who wants
>to get naked or who
>thinks they would have done
>it under those circumstances.
>
>It's the coercion of people who
>weren't expecting to have to
>do it and the fact
>that it was completely unnecessary
>that are the problems, but
>nobody seems to be getting
>that.
>
>Hey, I know! Let's have Eric
>eat pork! Or, wait... let's
>have Jameka rip pages out
>of her Bible! Who cares
>if it's something they would
>normally never do? If they're
>trying to win in this
>show, they damned well better
>be willing to do whatever
>demeaning thing we want them
>to do, right? Right?
>
>Pretty pathetic excuse for entertainment if
>you ask me.

As for the I'd do it crowd, I don't doubt your sincerity and sitting here, I'm thinking I would too in a heartbeat. But then I remember how much easier sports and reality TV are from my living room.
One thing that bothers me is the lack of ingenuity, intelligence and creativity on the part of the producers of the show. Heck, they've got a gold mine on shows like BB and Survivor yet they come up with nudes behind bubbles and disgusting food challenges? Not to mention the pole standing or spider web hanging challenges. Do reality fans, other than me, just love watching this stuff?
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