According to CBS, it says Joyce did it too.

Episode 5 route markers

Seana's thread is accurate becuase she updates it every week.

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That's what Joisey's summary says too.

I also think she did the Searching boxes as well, Uchenna didnt do it as Joyce did.

Uchenna did boxes. Trust me - I did the summary for that episode.

Who did the shopping for the Orphans? Was it really Uchenna?

I guess it doesn't matter as long as Joyce did the spear throw then they are ok because of the Fast Forward.

Just checked episode 6, (spear throwing RB) and yes, Joyce did do it.

It doesn't matter as stated above, but yes, I specifically remember Joyce telling Uchenna to do it. She didn't "want" to, which at the time struck me as very Kim-like (from Chip & Kim)

Actually - for the most part U/J had been going back and forth no matter what the challenges were. J then U back and forth. Joyce did several of them that I thought were very difficult - unlike Lamber.

okay thanks. I wasn't sure though. Thanks.

great stats!

now i know both rob and uchenna are done with the roadblock thing.

>great stats!
>
>now i know both rob and
>uchenna are done with the
>roadblock thing.

Uchenna did not do the spear throw, Joyce did. Look at the CBS website.

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Vidcap #11 is San Juan Airport in Puerto Rico.

Here is a pix from the web of a holiday snapshot of San Juan Airport. The ceiling matches exactly.

RaceyGirl's (cropped and blown up)

and this (vidcap)

When they first arrive, Joyce appears to be smiling. Uchenna has his usual expression. Later though, Joyce appears concerned (and the voiceover supports that). Uchenna has his usual expression.

Now we don't know for sure what flight the picture of Rob is from, but considering it is a widebody, it's either the London to Jamaica or the Puerto Rico to the U.S.

#19 at the very bottom, looks like a white girl with dark shorts about to enter the water.

My guess??? this is where amber jumps in the water and then she swims to meet rob at the edge where he is seen giving her a piggyback.

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I think that the "bridge" that we are seeing in pics 18 and 19 are really a conveyor belt attached to a bauxite factory in Jamaica. I am passingly familiar with the one in Ocho Rios. It was used as a film site for the James Bond film "Dr. No." Here is a link for a picture.

http://www.hgriggs.com/ll2_5.html

16th picture down. (Sorry, still learning to post pics - I'm a work in progress! lol)

I was there in November 2004 and it was my understanding that the local film/press board is very agressive in promoting positive film/press activities for the island. If anyone else knows of a factory on the other side of the island (i.e. Mo Bay, Kingston, etc.), chime in on this theory. Thanks.

firstly, welcome.

secondly, I bet you are right.
The photo definitely looks like it could be what you are talking about.

lastly, unfortunately, I can't help with the MoBay / Kingston question.
But if bauxite is a reliable resource then I imagine there would me mines all over the island.

is the following scenario what people are thinking?

teams make their way from london to kingston, jamaica to perform a series of tasks (detour, roadblock, etc) and make their way to the 10th pitstop in puerto rico (flights are available from KIN to SJU through south florida or the netherlands antilles). at this point, U/J are last and are stripped of all their belongings.

U/J are seen going INTO the puerto rico airport and why R/K and R/A are seen by ticket counters outside. if they were just passing through on a layover, they would be past security.

the start of the eleventh leg begins in puerto rico, where they could complete a bunch of tasks or go directly to the airport to book flights back to the mainland. more tasks before the finish line in NY?

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I've just watched CBS previews on their website and Amber is almost crying. She cannot run, she's exhausted probably from the roadblock (jumping off the bridge). That's why Rob has to pull her on his back. And it says "It takes two to win"...

Look for U/J at the airport, they seem very down and sad. Is it because they missed a flight back to USA or are they the team that lost their clue while shopping?

Look for U/J at the airport, they seem very down and sad. Is it because they missed a flight back to USA or are they the team that lost their clue while shopping?

I don't think it's because they lost their clue shopping. If they have all of their stuff taken away at the mat, then they won't have the extra money for shopping.

Losing the clue has to be either Romber or RKelly. Perhaps RKelly go shopping to find that small backpack to put their stuff in? They didn't have that during the last episode.

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I think, if we hadn't already, that "It takes two to win" would rule out RKelly winning. They're the only couple shown as having a relationship crisis.

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LAST EDITED ON 05-05-05 AT 06:32 PM (EST)
Is this where they are headed for the pit stop?
Here is a close up I guess but they might differnt
but could this be
<> the last pit stop before the final race

We are only shown 1 roadblock(bridge jumping) and 1 detor(rafting&???)What could the other roadblock and detor be on the way to the finish line?? Any thoughts??

By the way, It is worthwile to note that Uchenna and Ron are doing the Jamaican roadblock. So, this means the girls will battle out in the final roadblock.

Has anyone considered that maybe the rafts in Jamaica is part of the detour? Only Rob and Amber are shown doing them - the other detour choice could be the golf (from the long ago Jamaica spoiler) which would explain why Rob and Amber were not seen golfing...just thought I would throw this in for discussion...

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Amber: I cant run
Rob: jump on my back
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Kelly : I beleive my heart that this ?? the one
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VO: only three teams remain
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Ucheena : I have never been more proud to be Joyces Husband
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VO: Rob and Amber Uchenna and Joyce and Ron & Kelly
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VO: who will win the Amazing Race ? dont miss seasons finale CBS Tuesday
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Vidcap # 67
Commercial airlines which do not have established operations in Jamaica, may contract the services of Jamaica Dispatch Limited and AJAS Limited, which are the authorized handling agents at the Norman Manley International Airport. These companies offer a full range of services, including passenger processing, cargo handling and ramp handling.

AJAS Limited

NORMAN MANLEY INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT

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HAHAHAHAHAH!! Sorry I find it so funny that you guys have to listen to Delta Goodrem's "Lost without you!"

We had that song here about 18 months ago! HAHA! You are only just being exposed to the horror that is Delta Goodrem!!

Sucked in!! You can have her, I don't want her here!!!!

Can anyone explain why in the world TAR is following a very strange itinerary to complete the "race around the world" Because it is hard to find direct flights between the various locations we seem to be going on the following links: London to Florida to Jamaica to Florida to Puerto Rico to Florida to wherever the last mat is located.

Since it is so difficult to get from Jamaica to Puerto Rico why are the teams going there? Any ideas what task they may do before we pick them up at the San Juan Airport? Could the bridge (or whatever structure it is) be in Puerto Rico? If this is the last Detour before getting instructions to fly on to Miami, then it would give more meaning to Rob's remarks about doing anything for the million as he carries Amber to wherever their backpacks are and find transport to San Juan Airport.

I wonder if the tsunami didn't alter a lot of their plans. It would have taken most of Asia off the board at the time they were filming the show.

But the tsunami didn't happen until 12/26. The race was over for almost a week by then.

Curse you and your facts!

In #71 Amber is wearing her red 'a' shirt, not seen in both Puerto Rico nor Jamaica. I'm thinking this is the final city, early morning, heading north?

It doesn't look like her "a" shirt. It looks like a star to me.

Either way, not in the other caps, so I agree with the timing.

It looks to me like this is the final cab ride and they are doing the traditional "I think we are going to win" and/or "Whatever happens, I love you" kiss on the way to the final pitstop.

If the timing is correct, either they are very graceful in loss, happy to the end, or the think they might win.

In #71 Amber is wearing her red 'a' shirt, not seen in both Puerto Rico nor Jamaica. I'm thinking this is the final city, early morning, heading north?

Unless Romber figured out a way to spin the planet backwards, they wouldn't be heading north in the morning and have the sun out the driver's side window. It would be coming in the passenger's side window. Either it's later in the day headed north, or it's in the morning and they are headed south.

>

In #71 Amber is wearing her
>red 'a' shirt, not seen
>in both Puerto Rico nor
>Jamaica. I'm thinking this is
>the final city, early morning,
>heading north?

Unless Romber figured
>out a way to spin
>the planet backwards, they wouldn't
>be heading north in the
>morning and have the sun
>out the driver's side window.
> It would be coming
>in the passenger's side window.
> Either it's later in
>the day headed north, or
>it's in the morning and
>they are headed south.

I thought that at first too but if you look at the other pics of the other teams, they are of locations that they have been already, taken at a pit stop. I think that pic #71 is the pitstop in Africa.

LAST EDITED ON 05-06-05 AT 06:59 PM (EST)

of shots from the season perhaps?

ETA: yep, that's what it is!

RKelly are shown at the pitstop with the castle and winter gear on. U/J are shown with orange t-shirt/red t-shirt (respectively) on a beach.

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Don't you think the Finale Preview has too many shots of Romber - maybe the producers are deliberately leading people to believe that they are going to win?

or maybe they're just giving extra exposure/advertising to create more Romber awareness to help ratings on CBS' wedding special.

Or maybe they win.

( naw, too easy)

LAST EDITED ON 05-06-05 AT 05:30 PM (EST)

Appears that vidcaps #17 and #19 are different views of the same location. in #17 the bunched racers are running towards a short building with a distinctive roof near a forested area. Could it be that the small building in #17 is actually the top of the much larger structure in #19? This could be the first challenge after arriving in Jamaica. The racers get to the "bridge like" structure by climbing down through the building from above.

It's looking more like the bauxite mine mentioned in CindyinSacTown's previous posting. It's not a bridge at all, just a steel span holing up some piping and possibly a conveyor. The platform where the racers jump, appears to be temporary, and constructed just for the race. This was never a foot/car bridge.

Ocho Rios appears to have some bauxite mines, but it could be anywhere.

Could it be a task performed in Puerto Rico and not Jamaica? If the golfing gig as someone speculated is a Roadblock in Jamica the bridge Roadblock jump would then most likely be in Puerto Rico.

Has anyone looked for such a location in PR?

If it is, it would make more sense for Rob to carry Amber and say that after all "a million bucks is a stake" as they (read she) complete the final Roadblock and are on their way to the final mat stop via San Juan Airport and Miami (thus the big smiles on their faces as they fly off into the wild blue yonder!)

found this statement in an article

Link for article:
http://www.latinamericapress.org/article.asp?lanCode=1&artCode=4108

"Jamaica is the only place of the world where bauxite mines are located in populated areas. Income from the resources extracted in the mines is the country’s main source of foreign exchange after tourism."

so if it is a Bauxite mine most likely it is in Jamaica.

Have to say though, that article would make pick up my speed a little more, not just for the million, but to get away from the place as quick as possible.

The only thing I can find in Puerto Rico is in Caomo. I cannot find any pics, but I found descriptions:

--> Antique Spanish bridges - Coamo

The steel of these bridges, constructed in 1886 and 1876, was manufactured in Paris. The larger bridge (Km 39.2) is known as the Calabazas bridge.

--> (62) Calabazas Bridge PR-14, Km. 39, (spans the Cuyon River)

This iron lattice girder bridge marks the southern end of the Asomante. It was completed in 1882 and is still in use. It is 70 feet long with a single span, resting upon ashlar abutments. Its approaches have continuous parapets in rubble masonry. The metal elements were ordered from the Belgian factory Eugene Rollin & Co.

Without a photo I can't be sure, however, the description sounds like it could fit.

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If you look at #17, where all the teams are running towards the white building, then look at the preview on CBS, Romber appear to be running away from the building, so I'm betting Amber does the Roadblock which is jumping from the bridge, however I do not think that jumping from a bridge would tire her out so much she has to get a piggyback from Rob, so I'm thinking theres another part to the Roadblock which includes some sort of swimming challenge, and that I bet would be very exausting!! Now if the bridge is the Roadblock and it is by the white building, from the preview U/J are first running to the building, and then R/K run right by Romber. I'm guessing that only one person can jump from the bridge at a time, so Uchenna goes first then Ron then Amber, and that is the order they leave in after they complete the Roadblock. Unless the cluebox with the Roadblock info is behind the building (which I think it is because running in, no teams appear to be holding any clues), and then one team is faster than another reading the clue and deciding whos going to do the task.

dp*

>If you look at #17, where
>all the teams are running
>towards the white building, then
>look at the preview on
>CBS, Romber appear to be
>running away from the building,
>so I'm betting Amber does
>the Roadblock which is jumping
>from the bridge, however I
>do not think that jumping
>from a bridge would tire
>her out so much she
>has to get a piggyback
>from Rob, so I'm thinking
>theres another part to the
>Roadblock which includes some sort
>of swimming challenge, and that
>I bet would be very
>exausting!! Now if the bridge
>is the Roadblock and it
>is by the white building,
>from the preview U/J are
>first running to the building,
>and then R/K run right
>by Romber. I'm guessing that
>only one person can jump
>from the bridge at a
>time, so Uchenna goes first
>then Ron then Amber, and
>that is the order they
>leave in after they complete
>the Roadblock. Unless the cluebox
>with the Roadblock info is
>behind the building (which I
>think it is because running
>in, no teams appear to
>be holding any clues), and
>then one team is faster
>than another reading the clue
>and deciding whos going to
>do the task.
>
>
>dp*

hm.. on your post. Amber obviously has to do the remaining roadblocks, coz Rob did 6. The CBS preview right after the episode 10 (i mean on tv not from the website), seems to show that Amber injured herself doing the detour? So probably the doing of the diving from the bridge made Amber incapable to run or even walk quickly. Thus Rob has to carry her.

But still.. like u said, U/J were leading the other two teams in the roadblock. Since we assume that detour is always first b4 roadblock, and U/J in NEL, that means that the time difference between the first and last place for the final leg wont be of much difference, would it?

I do not think Amber injured herself so she couldn't run during the detour as when she is running, she does not appear to be limping or anything.

dp*

In #51 & #62 it looks like Amber could be limping, not positive though. She's wearing her bathing suit there, so maybe it's after she jumps from the bridge.

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LAST EDITED ON 05-07-05 AT 09:10 PM (EST)

Additional (picture-in-picture) TAR preview vidcaps during CBS golf coverage 5/7/05

73	74	75
76	77	78
79	80	81
82	83	84

...can you say "Limbo"?

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Pics 17 & 68: R/A have the same outfit. So they could be running (pic 17) to the Detour (possibly rafting- pic 68) and not the Roadblock which seems to be jumping off a bridge. What do you think?

LAST EDITED ON 05-08-05 AT 01:58 PM (EST)

edited to move some vidcaps around

I'm trying to put the Vidcaps in some sort of order and omitting the recyled pictures .

100 London Airport

101

102

103 Ron & Kelly
some other airport

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105

106

107

Kelly : I Love You ,Your breaking my heart

108 Romber get pulled over ,police Jamaica

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112

Rob:Are you kidding me
,that cops gonna cost us a million bucks

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114 U&J flat tire

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115A

U&J : what was that ? unbeleivable ! no fricking way !

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Ron: Please Lord let help us be the first team

120 Ron & Kelly /Kelly in Black Tank Top
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123 group run toward bridge/structure ?
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128

129 Romber Run

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134

Amber: I Cant Run

Rob: hop on ,come on baby a million bucks

135 Raft
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Amber Limbo

138 U&J Airport
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141
141A

Joyce: can we please make it ? its a race can we make on this flight <crys> I dont know what were going to do ?

RaceyGirls P/R picture

142 Romber airport
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TARJunkies PIP

RaceyGirls Ron ? P/R picture

Vidcap Credits
TeamJoisey
TARJunkie999
RaceyGirl
Dreamer@ Jokersupdates

Tarflies

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hey nice work dude. Now we can roughly see it clearer chronologically.

If you look at the picture and kellys shirt. Is she wearing a tank top under her shirt?
Cause if you notced that in #122 she has a shirt on as which means that #120 and #121 should be moved down right before #123 with them all running. Because as you notice she has her tank top on. In #120 and #121 but in #122 her shirt is on and then from there #123 her shirt is off again.
Just noticed that.

It's moved thank you beau .
Without reading through the whole thread was this mentioned , sorry in advance ? Not that it matters because we know that Ron is at the P/R airport at some point , but it looks like Ron buys his backpack while in London .

#27 we know this is London
Ron with a backpack /Grey straps

Raceygirls P/R picture cropped
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yeap cause in the taxi you can see the grey bag, so it has to be on the way to the finish or the pit stop. Cause if you notice in the taxi pictures he has his back pack with them, it is very noticable under the letters.
I dont know if it is mention but one team does loose a clue, which mean it could of been in london.

Guys, I think you have it wrong. #122 is in a car with left hand drive (camera in right front seat); #120 and #121 is in a car with right hand drive (camera in left front seat). Therefore, #120 and #121 are in Jamiaca. #123 is either in Puerto Rico or on the way to the final pit stop in the USofA.

LAST EDITED ON 05-08-05 AT 04:21 PM (EST)

Just a guess. Assuming the racers spend some time in Puerto Rico, they may visit one of the most famous sights in San Juan, namely, Castillo de San Felipe del Morro

Lot's of forts in the Carribean, so not sure if "El Morro" is the one.

Pix found on the web of "El Morro" at night

Edited to add: Just remembered, they are still in London, so Ron could be running in England. Rats!

Might also be FORT CHARLES in Kingston, Jamaica. Can anyone find a pix and post it?

I considered that, but discounted Fort Charles because it's made of brick (not stone). Also has lots of arches. Doesn't really fit the vidcap. Like I said, there are a lot of forts in this region.

Ok, so I was looking at these new shots, and

this looks like the location identified for Puerto Rico doesn't it. Besides the clothing joyce is wearing would fit and it looks as though Uchenna took off his shirt.

Anyway these:

are probably from Jamaica (clothing indicates)

THEREFORE if the first picture is from Puerto Rico then it shows Uchenna and Joyce at that location before the dark picture with ron in the same location. However, is the Amber limboing shot from that same location?

The only times we see Amber with her red T-shirt with the "a" on it is in the Puerto-Rico airport and then on a plane. They look very happy in the airplane shot as if they know they have a lead. Also, after someone mentioned how the airport looks more crowded in the shots with R/A then U/J or R/K, I've gone back to those pictures and it makes me think R/A are well ahead of the other 2 teams.
And by the way, during the F1 coverage, CBS had new shots from the finale and we do see a golfer. The picture was too quick so I couldn't tell who it was but it does seem a golf challenge is coming. Unfortunately, I had no way to capture those pictures.

New Vidaps thanks to Dreamer@ Jokersupdates

I'll start numbering them at 200 .

200 Amber
201
202
203
204
205
206
207 Uchenna
208 GolfCourse
209
210 Some Dude
211
212
213 U&J going up / Romber going down
214
215
216
217 U&J ?
218
219
220 R&K
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222
223
224
225
226

White Witch
credits to Lucy325
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Looks like U&J already finish the rafting as Romber is going down to the rafts.

I hope I'm wrong.

It looks to me that they have to make the rafts, then maybe go on an course to search for something. Maybe R/A already found what they were looking for and are back on the raft going back to the start?? Also the pic where R/K are putting the raft together looks a lot in the background of the golf course. Just my thoughts. What do ya'll think?

Does anyone know how many roadblocks are left for Amber to do? In the vidcaps someone is holding her hand as she walk out to jump and she looks terrified. Wouldn't Rob do that or has he used up his share of roadblocks?

Also just some speculation here but the detour seems to be either golf or build a raft. Does anyone agree?

Yes, Rob has already done all 6 of his roadblocks so now they have to rely on Amber to do the remaining 2. I think the other teams are pretty even with each other when roadblocks are concerned -- The guys still have one more to do and the girls as well. Rob and Amber are the only team remaining where the girl is the only person who can do roadblocks from now on.

>The only times we see Amber
>with her red T-shirt with
>the "a" on it is
>in the Puerto-Rico airport and
>then on a plane. They
>look very happy in the
>airplane shot as if they
>know they have a lead.
>Also, after someone mentioned how
>the airport looks more crowded
>in the shots with R/A
>then U/J or R/K, I've
>gone back to those pictures
>and it makes me think
>R/A are well ahead of
>the other 2 teams.

Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't Racey Girl say it was 9:00 or something in the morning when she saw U/J and R/K at the airport? If so, if it is more crowded when R/A are there (which I am not even sure of), that could indicate they are pulling up the rear rather than being ahead. But then again that doesn't explain why they look happy on the flight, so who knows.

LAST EDITED ON 05-09-05 AT 00:03 AM (EST)

>>Also, after someone mentioned how
>>the airport looks more crowded
>>in the shots with R/A
>>then U/J or R/K, I've
>>gone back to those pictures
>>and it makes me think
>>R/A are well ahead of
>>the other 2 teams.
>
>
>Correct me if I am wrong,
>but didn't Racey Girl say
>it was 9:00 or something
>in the morning when she
>saw U/J and R/K at
>the airport? If so,
>if it is more crowded
>when R/A are there (which
>I am not even sure
>of), that could indicate they
>are pulling up the rear
>rather than being ahead.
>But then again that doesn't
>explain why they look happy
>on the flight, so who
>knows.

I don't know about this airport. But in my experience of traveling airports are more crowded from 7-9, than after 9 o'clock. Unless the airport is a hub, like Atlanta, Dallas, or Denver.

Not only that, but if RA arrived close to boarding time for a flight and UJ / RK were shown standing around between flights, that would absolutely explain the difference in the crowds.

>I don't know about this airport.
> But in my experience
>of traveling airports are more
>crowded from 7-9, than after
>9 o'clock. Unless the
>airport is a hub, like
>Atlanta, Dallas, or Denver.

But still, Racey Girl she was mentioned waiting in a long line to check in for her flight when U/J R/K arrived, so it couldn't have been that slow when they were there.

Any chance that Romber's happy plane picture is traveling from London? Or does their clothing rule this out?

Okay, from what I can make of everything here most peeps are assuming that the next leg of the race takes them from London to Jamaica, where the teams jump off the bridge, do the rafting, and also get a flat tire, and are pulled over by the police. We know that at the end of all of these tasks that U/J will indeed come in last, and that it's a non-elim leg. This leg probably ends in Puerto Rico.

The next leg begins at the Puerto Rico airport where Racey Girl got her pics of U/J and R/K. With U/J losing all of their money and possesions, and with no sighting of R/A, I can make a deduction that R/A probably ended the last leg in first, giving them enough of a lead so that they indeed catch the earlier flight. With R/A getting the earlier flight and with U/J losing everything, I just cannot see how U/J can be set so far back and then turn over everything to end in first....competing against such strong competitors as R/A and R/K. The only possible way that R/A could lose, imo, is that they forget the clue in the bookstore and proceed without it, and when they reach the mat Phil tells them that they have to have that so must go back......this way R/A aren't not beaten by anyone else, they beat themselves....

All speculation that I still don't buy, imo, R/A are WINNERS here!

I'm sorry FP - I know your a huge Romber fan - but 2 reasons I disagree.

We had a spoiler at the very beginning of this season saying that they play golf and that 2 teams were way ahead of the third team. Many specualted that this must be M/G especially since there was a rumor they were in the final 3 for a week - I think it's not. The person said that neither of the first 2 teams were R/A but that one team was a young couple like R/A (or something to that effect). Now per KO - and I think she knows - Rob is an avid golfer - which I think is going to make him made when he cant do it as he has already done 6 RB (assuming the golf is a RB)

We have what seems like U/J finishing their boat trip while R/A are just beginning theirs. They have to put the boat together and raft and then come back. IMHO U/J are way ahead of R/A at this point in the race. I think this is the 2nd part of the race - after they had been mugged by Phil. Not the first like everyone else thinks.

This is not the second half of the race simply because of the clothing. After coming in last during the NEL Uchenna and Joyce will have only what they had on their backs and that is a yellow shirt and khaki pants for Uchenna and a white shirt and Khaki pants for Joyce. That picture of them passing R&A shows different clothing so it is first half.

I think that R/A are ahead of U/J at the climb because we know from the R/K pics (#220-222) that the rafts are build on a rocky area. When U/J are climbing, Uchenna is wearing a black shirt. When they finally reach the rocks (pictures #217-219), he's taken it off since the climb got him hot.
This makes me think the racers must go up the hill first to get the clue then come down to the rafts.

We had a spoiler at the very beginning of this season saing that they play golf and that 2 teams were way ahead of the third team. The person said that neither of the first 2 teams were R/A but that one team wasa young couple like R/A....

Well, if the first roadblock is jumping off of that bridge structure in Jamaica, we see that Amber, Uchenna, and Ron complete it. We also know that R/A will end up ahead of U/J as U/J will be last in the non-elim leg. So if the next roadblock is golfing in Puerto Rico then we know that the only ones left to complete it will be Amber, Joyce, and Kelly as the guys have all done their 6 in the race. So, I would bet that Amber can hold her own on the links with Joyce and Kelly...

Just my 2 cents...

It could be that golfing is the second choice of detour along with rafting. The two racers could be playing alternate shots and have to complete a hole in a certain number of strokes or have to start over. They all decide to do the rafting because we see some dude playing instead of one of the racers.

I'll add my two cents to the "Is Amber injured?" debate.

When the preview aired, it looked like she slid awkwardly when she fell onto the raft (#20). This could (temporarily, at least) make it tough for her to run. If this is the last task before the non-elim pit stop, then I could see Rob carrying her.

But while an ankle turn may keep her from running temporarily, a pit stop would give her the chance to prop it and treat it, so she'd probably be all right for an end run.

"If there was ever a time you wanted permission to run over a clown . . . ."

Hi all - first time poster here but like many others, I have been lurking for a while.

I was just looking around on the net for "Rob & Amber win TAR" just to see what would come up, and this article from Edmonton Canada popped up as a link. Just an article promoting tomorrow's finale, or are there some clues within this article? It does mention under the U/J section that they start the final leg in last place - mugged right before final leg I presume.

http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/EdmontonSun/Entertainment/2005/05/08/1030574-sun.html

It does mention under the U/J section that they start the final leg in last place - mugged right before final leg I presume.

The author could just be referring to the finale as one leg??

>It does mention under the U/J
>section that they start the
>final leg in last place
> - mugged right before
>final leg I presume.
>
>The author could just be referring
>to the finale as one
>leg??

I don't think it should be assumed the author knows anything we don't. As of the end of last week, U/J were in last, and R/A were in first, so going into the finale these are their starting positions. To me that's all this is.

Author gives interesting odds: R/A are 2 to 1, U/J are 3 to 2.

LMAO at his R/K comments:

"Ron deserves to win simply for putting up with his cranky, chilly, God-fearin' girlfriend for this entire globe-spanning trek. How he's resisted the temptation to tie her up and leave her on some dusty roadside in India is beyond fathoming."

yeah i read that article too. I wonder why the author would say the odds of U/J winning is higher than R/A, since naturally, ppl will think Romber will have the highest chanses of winning out of the three.

LAST EDITED ON 05-09-05 AT 11:58 PM (EST)

He's following this as closely as all of us fans, has likley been on the boards for research, and is familiar with the spoilers (betting, pictures in PR etc). This fellow does a weekly column on the program that is typically bust a gut funny - and I read it faithfully - but I don't think it contains any inside info over and above what's here. I expect the odds on U&J are higher due to the betting spoiler.

Okay, I have been looking really close at who is behind R/K in picture's 220-222, and if you look at the picture in 219, it looks to me that Uchenna is in the background. If you look there is a man wearing a white shirt standing to the far right, which by the way he is standing looks as though he may be the person they have to get the next clue from, then there is a man with a shirt off and looking back and it looks like he might be headed to the man on the right. Is there anyway anyone could enhance and zoom in to see who it could be? If this is the case then the picture of U/J running off the rocky beach could mean that they are ahead of R/K, meaning that they have finished their task when R/K are just finishing up putting the raft together. Just an idea.

I zoomed in and definitely saw the dudes/guides in the purple shirts , no luck making Ucheena out sorry its just to blurred .

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Here is what I am trying to figure out, in one picture it looks like U and J are ahead of the other teams in what appears to be the roadblock. However on the new pictures that show Amber and Uchenna jumping it looks like Amber is ahead of Uchenna. So does Amber or Uchenna jump first?

LAST EDITED ON 05-10-05 AT 08:31 AM (EST)

AOL Reality TV Site has a video preview up here:

http://tv.channel.aol.com/styles/realitytv.adp?hid=NY54362%7cX%7c2%

It shows the teams racing to the bridge structure, looks as though Ron gets their first, says, "Dang, it's windy up here", as he's running across the top of the structure, then we see Uchenna running on it and he just grunts, then we see Romber running across country, stopping and we hear Rob saying, "Where's Ron", then realizing that they are going the wrong way, he turns and says, "Amber, you've got to jump off the platform", as he sees it, and then says, "Come on!", and they take off. Then we see Ron plunging into the depths of the water....

So it appears that Ron will be first off, then Uchenna, then Romber....but the editing could be tricky. Uchenna may have completed this task after Romber....we don't know what order that Uchennna and Amber complete the task, but it's obvious that Ron is off first!

So, that answers the question as to why Amber can't run anymore. They were running and running before the jump, had to turn and run more, race to get up there, jump, swim, then run somewhere else.

So, is the bridge jump in Jamaica or Puerto Rico, and is it the first roadblock after London? If it is, the final roadblock will come down to all three of the ladies. If it is the initial roadblock after London, it's misdirection that Romber will place last, as we know that U/J will be last in the non-elim leg.

LAST EDITED ON 05-10-05 AT 11:04 AM (EST)

Good catch, Flower. Here's some AOL vidcaps showing details of bauxite pier.

Also Rob is shown at base of pier with Amber. She just follows him like a wet dog. Rob tells her he should be down here and she should be up on structure. Think woman!

Looks like jumpers (Ron) have to walk out to small building at end of pier to get down to platform which is closer to shore.

more AOL Vidcaps
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306 Ron: Oh My God
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308 Ucheena
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314 Rob: Wait Amber are we both suppose to be going down there ?
315 Wheres Ron?
316 Amber:I dont know honey
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319 Rob: gotta go back up here
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321 Rob: You gotta go off the platform
322 Rob : Come on!
323 Ron
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332 Rob : where is this place baby ?
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In 330 who is that person in the orange , I think its uchenna.