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"So, everybody left is undefeated as a Project Manager"

Posted by buscemi on 12-03-04 at 09:40 AM
-Jen M. is 1-0
-Sandy is 2-0
-Kelly is 3-0
(although, I would submit that you should reverse Sandy and Kelly's numbers b/c Sandy really was pm on the wedding task)
-Kevin is 2-0

Also, obviously the men have better overall records b/c the men won the majority of the tasks over the women, but I believe that since the teams were mixed, everyone remaining is either 4-2 or 3-3. Am I right on this? Anyone been keeping tabs?

All of this will lead, I believe, to a very tough task of picking the final 2 from the interviews. I would give the edge to Jen M. and Kelly b/c they seem like smooth talkers while Sandy (Pepsi) and Kevin (Levi's) come off as less polished.


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"RE: So, everybody left is undefeated as a Project Manager"
Posted by ARnutz on 12-03-04 at 06:07 PM
You made me so curious with this post so I went and figured out the stats for each person while they were on a particular team.

Total team stats per individual (in order of best to worst records):

Kelly: --he was on Mosaic for weeks 1 to 10, before task 11 (Levi's) Wes sent him to Apex.
--Mosaic record for weeks 1 to 10 was (W-L) 7-3,
--Apex in weeks 11 to 13 was 2-1
**Total W-L for Kelly's team(s) is 9-4

Kevin: --he was on Mosaic until the first shuffle of week 7 when Wes sent him to Apex.
--Mosaic for weeks 1 to 6 was 4-2
--Apex for weeks 7 to 13 was 3-4
**Total W-L for Kevin's team(s) is 7-6

Sandy: --she was on Apex until the first shuffle in week 7 when Jenn sent her to Mosaic.
--Apex for weeks 1 to 6 was 2-4
--Mosaic for weeks 7 to 13 was 4-3
**Total W-L for Sandy's team(s) was 6-7

Jenn: --she was on Apex for weeks 1 to 11 she was sent to Mosaic by Kelly in week 12 (Pepsi task)
--Apex for weeks 1 to 11 was 4-7
--Mosaic for weeks 12 to 13 was 1-1
**Total W-L for Jenn's team(s) was 5-8


Kelly has the strongest individual PM record paired with the strongest team record and will probably do well in the interviews. Jenn has the worst individual and team record of those left, but is a very "safe" talker. She could shine during the interviews because she knows what they want to hear. If Kevin sweats or Sandy shows her lack of higher education, Jenn could slide in the top 2.


Mon Dieu, Mon Cherie... c'est magnifique!!!


"RE: So, everybody left is undefeated as a Project Manager"
Posted by smokedog on 12-03-04 at 06:28 PM
My vote is also for Kelly and Jenn, based on the stats provided and the intangible factor of being able to talk a lot without saying too much.

"RE: So, everybody left is undefeated as a Project Manager"
Posted by DevilsDeal on 12-03-04 at 08:42 PM
>My vote is also for Kelly
>and Jenn, based on the
>stats provided and the intangible
>factor of being able to
>talk a lot without saying
>too much.

It seems to me that the person last season who spent the interviews talking without really saying anything was fired SPECIFICALLY because they were talking without saying anything. Jen's tendency to play it safe will probably work against her on this phase, especially seeing she has the weakest PM record of the three. (Winning as PM when you've only done it once could be written off as dumb luck if she doesn't back it up somehow in this phase.) Kelly on the otherhand has a good enough PM record that it would only take a little smooth talk and letting his record speak for itself to put him in the final showdown.


"RE: So, everybody left is undefeated as a Project Manager"
Posted by buscemi on 12-03-04 at 06:40 PM
Cool. Thanks for the stats. Of course, Amy was 11-1 last year, and Kwame was 3-9, and their respective records didn't seem to have much impact on who made the final 2. I think that the records aren't far enough apart for them to matter this season either, esp with their pm records.

"RE: So, everybody left is undefeated as a Project Manager"
Posted by jae on 12-04-04 at 04:17 AM
LAST EDITED ON 12-04-04 AT 04:26 AM (EST)

For the fun of it, the PM record, imho, should be:

Sandy: 2
Kelly: 2
Jenn: 1.5
Kevin: 1.5

I took 1 point from Kelly and gave .5 to Sandy because she won the bridal task for him. I threw away the other .5 because it was an unfair task. I took .5 from Sandy and gave it to Jenn because they were a duo. No one led and no one followed. Subtracted .5 from Kevin because he won Crest out of pure luck.

The co-ed teams win/loss record:

Kelly: 5 wins, 2 losses
Jenn: 3 wins, 4 losses
Kevin: 3 wins, 4 losses
Ivana: 3 wins, 4 losses

Final Boardroom Appearances:

1 Kelly (Sorta...)
1 Jennifer
2 Sandy
4 Kevin