I think Jen will pick Jerry after last night's episode. Just right after Jen gave the first rose to JP last night, I thought Jerry was a goner. Because Jen and Ryan had that bubble bath and I thought that means she will be giving Ryan the 2nd rose. But I think the producers edited the show to make up think opposite of what's shown. So right now, they are showing us doubting Jerry's sincerity. And Jen mentioned that JP is so mature and successful. I think it means Jen will pick Jerry.

"As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain; and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality." - Einstein

I DONT KNOW WHY I DO NOT GET THE SAME FEELING YOU GUYS HAVE ABOUT JEN PICKING JERRY (MAYBE IT IS BECASUE I DO NOT WANT HER TO) ALTHOUGH I AM NOT REALLY FOND OF JP. SURE, JEN AND JERRY LOOK GOOD TOGETHER AND THERE NAMES SOUND GREAT TOGETHER, SHE SHOULD HAVE NEVER KICKED RYAN TO THE CURB. JERRY REMINDS ME OF A PLAYBOY. I DO THINK THE PRODUCERS ARE TRYING THERE HARDEST TO THROW US OFF BUT I AM NOT CONVINCED JEN WILL PICK JERRY. I THINK SHE HAS TOO MANY UNANSWERED QUESTIONS IN HER MIND ABOUT HIM.

Welcome to the boards. I think it must be a Kim thing but I don't see "all that" about Jerry. Sure he is easy on the eyes, but I don't see anything past that. If she was smart she would pick JP but I am sure it will be Jerry.

- Sliced!
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn... that was fun!"
P.S. - Please don't YELL at us. Thanks. Kim S.

After seeing last night's show I am convinced (unfortunately) that she will pick John Paul. He gives the impression of being so stable and a self made man. I think that is "false advertising" Lets face it he is only 25 and his parents are rich, rich and I would bet that they have set him up in business. I changed my mind about him on the visit to his parents but last night I returned to my impression that he is a dud. Jerry, on the other hand, is good looking yes but he is much more than that. He is much more honest and tries to say what he thinks whereas JP gives the answers she wants.

John Paul's house is bigger and more impressive than his parents' house, so I don't buy that about his parents being rich and setting him up in a business.

Scratch and sniff

>>Does anyone seriously think she's going >to pick John Paul?
>>>If she doesn't pick Jerry, I'll >eat my hat. >

If she does pick Jerry then, IMHO, she was not seriously interested in any of the guys and doesnt want to really get married to any of them..... no way she and Jerry will last..... if she is really looking for a stable, serious, "happily ever after" then she will pick John Paul...if she picks Jerry because he is "cute"..then she will get what she deserves....ANOTHER BREAKUP!....it would be over as soon as Jerry lands his first TV show! She and Jerry have about as much chance of making it as she and Andrew Firestone have of getting back together......right..NONE!

What if we just take for face value all that we have actually seen? What if we ignore rumor? What we have left is two very good looking men.

One man, Jerry, does not really seem all that interested in Jen. Jen is constantly questioning Jerry's intentions. She "says" they have chemistry, but I just don't see it.

Then we have John Paul, who is very interested in Jen. Jen does not question John Paul's intentions, nor his ability to support and love her. I see both their eyes light up when they meet in each episode.

Just look at the facts and what you have seen. Ignore all the smoke screens that people are trying to put up. Ignore the rumors.

I still think this is a no-brainer....John Paul will be Jen's pick.

Could it be MORE obvious??

>Just look at the facts and
>what you have seen.
>Ignore all the smoke screens
>that people are trying to
>put up. Ignore the rumors.
>
>I still think this is a
>no-brainer....John Paul will be Jen's
>pick.
>
>Could it be MORE obvious??

Ummm, no, it's actually quite a bit more obvious that Jerry is the pick -- Spidey and I both speak from years of experience in watching reality TV show editing, particularly from shows such as Survivor or Amazing Race. We're getting sledgehammered that it's going to be Jerry. Sorry.

Scratch and sniff

I agree she should pick John Paul. He has really grown on me during the last few episodes, and I think he is both stable and sincere. But there's a reason someone as pretty as Jen is still single at age 28. She doesn't pick the right guys. Kind of like Meredith picking Ian instead of that southern guy who had the right intentions. So -- I'm afraid Jem is going to go with chemistry or whatever, perhaps the challenge of trying to figure him out or be the one to make him settle down -- and chose Jerry.

no way she and Jerry will last

Well, given the track record of these relationships, I would be inclined to agree that they would likely not last.

But who are we to KNOW whether or not there is any possibility it could?

And, more importantly, who cares?

I hope you are hungry b/c you will be eating your hat.

I AGREE. YOU WILL BE EATING YOUR HAT. JEN WILL PICK JOHN PAUL. IF SHE PICKS JERRY SHE WILL BE SETTING HERSELF UP FOR ANOTHER FAILED RELATIONSHIP FOR SURE. WHEN IS THE LAST EPISODE, ANYONE KNOW?

Welcome to the boards.

The 2/21 episode is the "Men Tell All" recrap special.
The final episode will be 2/28. I'm sure it's a 2 hour
stretch with an "After the Final Rose" special.

Are you new to message boards? It's considered "shouting"
to type in all capital letters. Just thought I'd share,
in case you weren't aware.

Although I want John Paul to get the girl, I think Jen will pick Jerry. Wah!

Thanks for the info..no more ALL CAPS. I really think this season went so fast. Dont they usually have the recapo show after the final rose ceremony? Strange.

Yes. I am new to the boards. How do you get the fancy signature lines at the bottom of your message?

If you mean my signature pic, I made that last week, my first
attempt at Photoshop. Might be my last attempt, as I have
no idea what I'm doing. Hee hee.

Most of the time, I find an avatar (small pic) and use
it. I kinda did a combination avatar/signature. I wish
I could make a better one!

If you mean the snarky commentary line under it, there's a
link for HTML tags. Font tag is fun. And I always hit the
Preview button before I post, just to check for errors.

I'd send this to Private Message, but I'm not sure if you're
aware about how to find those.

I clicked the help for the 'font tag' link, and voila!

Two weeks from now. Next week is The Bachelors Tell All.

I am more than prepared to eat said hat if it should come to that. Seriously, how embarrassed can one get on a message board?

But I highly doubt it will come to that.

What makes you so sure she'll pick JP? Clearly, none of these game show constestants shows tremendous judgment, so what makes you think she'd be any different? (That's not to say I think Jerry would be a bad choice. But some of you clearly do.)

Jen has been through this and I am sure (well, not so sure) she can see the signs of a man that isnt "into her". I just dont see Jerry being so into her but then again, maybe he just does not show is emotions like JP. JP is genuine and you can tell or he is a darn good actor. Jerry on the other hand is being himself and he just seems to be acting. No eating of hats necessary..it really is anyones game.....

Kimmyb hello.

Did you think Andrew Firestone was so into Jen when he picked her during his batchelor show? i thought not but because his fantasy drunk contestant couldn`t communicate effectively with him he let her go earlier on in the show.

Remember her,what was her name? The one who on a group date with Firestone got completely plastered as in drunk,and still wasn`t evicted by him.The one who when all of fIrestones friends came on and met all the girls in the competition,chose the drunk as the one most likely to get chosen and suit him.

In my opinion Firestone wasn`t really all that into Jen,so how can you tell if John Paul is only acting,and Jerry doing the same,and even Jen herself acting?

Points well taken. I just see a bit more sincerity in JP's eyes. I did not like Firestone at all for Jen and thought she was a fool to be with him. To be honest, I dont really see Jen being into either of them like she was into Firestone. I love watching the shows but know alot of it is acting. We should all keep that in mind while trying to pick who is good for who.

It is definitely going to be Jerry. The chemistry is there between him and Jen. John Paul hadn't even kissed her till the home visits. And she was suppose to know which guy she wanted early on. She would not be kissing other guys if John Paul was the one. She acts like she just realized he is a nice guy. But they come off as friends. Where she lights up when she sees Jerry.

And the whole little arguement between Jen and Jerry after the croquet game was just like the way couples bicker. It was the playful type of talk that showed how comfortable they are with each other. She is doing what the show tells her and trying to throw out doubts about her and Jerry. When really it looks like she can't wait to end the show and jump his bones.

I think John Paul is a great catch. But Jen just doesn't have the same chemistry with him. She was attracted to Jerry early on and John Paul never had a chance. So they use the doubts Fabrice threw at Jen about Jerry to try and mislead us. But it will be Jerry that she picks. This one I am sure of.

Confirmation from the likes of Loree and Pepe makes this one a mortal lock.

LAST EDITED ON 02-17-05 AT 01:55 PM (EST)

AAAAARRRRRRRRGGHHHHHH!!!

You know that'll be me on 2/28. I'll be @$#%#$% and other
cartoon cussin' at my TV. I hate it when people tend to
be logical in their opinions.

Loree put the Kiss o' Death on my pick, John Paul. ::sniff::
OT: I just noticed I'm a "Cooking Show Host" level DAW now. COOL! I.Heart.Alton.Brown.

Loree, thanks for your post but can you please elaborate on what exactly you mean by Jen wanting to "jump his bones" ?

Kimmyb You are too right about this all being one great big act.It`s very contrived and yes I agree we should all consider that when going and picking who is right for who in such reality Tv shows.

Spidey and Briar Rosie your comments are both very amusing,especially yours Spidey.

>>can you please elaborate on
>what exactly you mean by
>Jen wanting to "jump his
>bones" ?
>

LOL! I just meant that she wants his body.

As in, "Jump his bones, having her wicked, wanton way with him."

Yes, I think that's accurate.

(And to the Aussie who complimented me....thanks!)

I'm part Janu(S10), part Kendra(TA3) and part Paula(AI4)...but all DAW.

It will definitely be Jerry.

John Paul looks like Gary Shandling. I don't care how big his house is.

Ryan was really the long-term potential guy, they could communicate. Listening to her and John Paul talk is painfully boring.

With Jerry there's at least some fun and playfulness. Oh, and he's hot.

She wanted to jump him since the 1st time she saw him. Why not? These things rarely end in a real relationship anyway.

Yeah well Garry John Paul has a lot more clout and connections than Jerry ever will have! Good catch on the Garry Shandling resemblence... they could be father-son!

Scratch and sniff

It`s quite clear to me now with Lorees and your explanations.Thanks for that you two, and BriarRosie, you`re most welcome.

I too believe it will be Jerry. I think he comes across as being over confident, but I think he truly is a little insecure and puts on a good show to cover this. I do think he really does like Jen and she seems to be quite taken with him.

I am new to this board, but have been watching the Bachelorette/Bachelor shows consistently since Trista and Ryan. I am terribly hooked on this show for some reason and glad to see other people "into" it!

I, too, believe it will be Jerry. I've felt this way since Day 1. It's been, so, obvious, she's smitten with him. She continually had her doubts about him & said she thought he might be playing her, & yet, she kept giving him a rose. He may be cute, but I don't like him. She's going to find out, she's been right all along.

This is exactly what I have been saying this whole time. Thanks Annielynne for confirming by beliefs. I loved Ryan and was sad to see Jen get rid of him. Jerry is very handsome but full of himself for sure. She would be very smart to think long and hard about this.

LAST EDITED ON 02-20-05 AT 07:49 PM (EST)

Yes Kimmyb, often with such men who are striking in their appearance and have unusual looks and know it thmselves,one should (in this case Jens) question their sincerity...

I have come across many such as Jerry in my past,and said: BYE BYE

It`s like they exist for all women and not one in particular.
Know what I mean ?

A serious DAW like Jen spending the bestest, prettiest years of her life in Oklahoma City? Pleeeeze.

It's so Jerry.

Desperate to be in the public eye, and be noticed with a great looking guy-jen certainly is... munson ,I am afraid I probably will have to agree with you.

I haven't posted here in an eternity but Jen is soooo screaming J-E-R-R-Y right now!

If it's not Jerry, i'll eat my socks.

Spidey and I could dine together.

But that ain't happening! because Jen WILL pick Jerry.

When is the final episode airing on American Tv,Maximus ?

Monday, Feb. 28 at 9/8c.
For the first time ever, the Bachelorette receives two proposals. Who is the last man standing? Find out in the two-hour finale, then see if Jen accepts in a live "After the Final Rose" special. It's a full night of The Bachelorette!

http://abc.go.com/primetime/bachelorette/index.html

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/gossip/story/284895p-244056c.html

Thanks once more Lolette,you always come through with with the right links.I really appreciate it. Cant wait until the 1st of march to read everyones thoughts on who she chose and what happened.

If what I just read on the NY Daily News link is anything to go by,and the rumours are correct,then I can`t wait for the ##### to hit the fan !

Meet Jerry, the next bachelor. (After Chris O'Connell, natch.)

Jen wins (with Andrew), then loses.

Jerry wins with Jen, then loses (er- I guess that would depend on how you look at it, I suppose. Personally, I think she's vapid.).

Ya think they can scare up 25 hot young women who want a crack at Jerry and/or tv?

Holy jeez, it's truly endless, isn't it?

No discussions on other threads for the next hour and a half, please.

Can't believe her decision . . . dumps John Paul for the Player. Then dumps the Player.

Of course, if Andrew Firestone was not good enough for her - no man will ever be.

I can't see how any person can date 25 men and pick one based on the little time they spend together - unless they have other 'dates' that we don't see on TV?

She will wake up and realize she has missed several great men - Andrew and John Paul.