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"A matter of perspective..."

Posted by tamarama on 08-04-06 at 03:28 PM
I’m far from an expert on strategy – I’ve not analyzed nearly as much or as well as many of the posters here, and I only started watching BB at BB4 (Alisore *shudder*). But I’ve had some thoughts kicking around in my head & thought I’d share them & see if I’m nuts, or if I make a little sense.

Perception of gameplay – good or bad/good or evil - has changed (for some) largely because of the way BB6 rolled out. Within the first few weeks of BB6, there were two very clearly defined alliances. Aside from the debacle of Howie nominating James & Sarah, there was NO interesting play, NO suspense. Once HOH was decided, you pretty much knew who would be going home the following week. The only things remotely suspenseful were the HOH competitions themselves. The cast of BB6 (all of them, not just the BB7s) defined “good play” by the strength of the player’s loyalty – not their strategy. *Gasp* James is trying to play with strategy!! Eliminate him!! (Even though James showed more strategic ability than others in BB6, he still over-played his hand & deserved to go. He had strategy, yes – but he wasn’t good at applying it.)

Anyway, the season was still entertaining because we had the gripping battle of good vs. evil – complete with opportunities to debate which side was which. But the season was definitely NOT about strategic play.

So here we are watching BB7, the supposed “All-Stars.” AGAIN, we have some very open, clear alliances. We have people espousing loyalty, honesty and dependability – as though the winner of the game should be a moral icon, not a game player. It’s mostly BB6 that is fueling these perceptions. “Chilltown” (good god I hate alliance names) is only open because, duh, it’s so well documented there’s no way they could hide it.

These are only a couple of examples of the strange things that are considered “good” or “bad” play this season.

I began watching BB7 happy to see JKH&J back in the house. Even kinda rooting for them. (I hadn’t watched BB2 or BB3, and I hated everyone but Nakomis and Will W. on BB4 & BB5) Hey, they’re likable people, and I like to watch likable people (I don’t “love to hate” Alison & Jase, I just hate them. They don't entertain me.)

BUT…I also like to watch good game play. (That’s good vs. bad play, not good vs. evil.)

As weeks go by and they each show themselves to be…less than skilled, I’ve been really disappointed. Until I started to look at things from a different angle.

I AM seeing really good game play. Just not from BB6. I’m seeing really good game play from Will and Danielle. *sigh* yyyyyeeeeeessssssssss.

I just had to shift my perspective.


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"RE: A matter of perspective..."
Posted by chappi66 on 08-04-06 at 03:51 PM
Ditto, Ditto and Ditto again. You hit the nail on the head. BB6 is a little clueless right now on how to play a strategic game. If they knew what they were doing, even remotely, they would have taken out Will and/or Boogie by now. However, since Will does know how to play the game(and by the way I loved the whole bathtub scene), he has got Janielle thinking they are on the same side (so to speak). I love it. Will is a true game player.

"RE: A matter of perspective..."
Posted by nailbone on 08-04-06 at 03:56 PM
Sounds good to me.

“Chilltown” (good god I hate alliance names)

Didn't they name themselves that way back in the beginning of BB2? it is a stupid name, I agree.


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"RE: A matter of perspective..."
Posted by chappi66 on 08-04-06 at 05:28 PM
LAST EDITED ON 08-04-06 AT 05:31 PM (EST)

Yes they did and it was stupid then. I don't know what is worse Chilltown or the Four Horsemen. Maybe we should start another post and ask which alliance name is the most annoying.

Chilltown
The Four Horsemen
Soveign 4
Friendship Alliance

Ugh!!


"RE: A matter of perspective..."
Posted by brvnkrz on 08-04-06 at 07:28 PM
I vote for the Friendship Alliance. It sounds so Pollyana.


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"RE: A matter of perspective..."
Posted by nailbone on 08-10-06 at 10:26 AM
Plus, it was so absolutely NOT friendly.


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"RE: A matter of perspective..."
Posted by Aruba on 08-04-06 at 08:47 PM
My vote is for the BB6 "GIRL SCOUT TROOP"...the girls and the homosexual Beau.

"RE: A matter of perspective..."
Posted by brvnkrz on 08-04-06 at 04:01 PM
At the start of this season I couldn't figure out what Will was doing and was very disappointed. But he is playing a great game and I think he, and maybe Dani, are the only ones who really get how to play this game. I hate the whole thing about people crying about their "friends" turning on them. This is a game. You did not come in friends so there is nothing that binds anyone to any sort of loyalty. You have to play for yourself. It helps to have people aid you but ultimately, you play for yourself.


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"RE: A matter of perspective..."
Posted by LIVEURBESTLIFE on 08-04-06 at 07:20 PM
Great post Tam!

You hit the nail on the head.


"RE: A matter of perspective..."
Posted by Buggy on 08-04-06 at 11:55 PM
Some great thoughts on the game, Tamarama.

I agree with some of what you say, I very much like the way you've said it.

I think the season is only going to get better. I hope there will be much good game.



"RE: A matter of perspective..."
Posted by bdemoney on 08-05-06 at 09:58 AM
LAST EDITED ON 08-05-06 AT 10:00 AM (EST)

I know this is Bashers and not spoilers but I did just read a NEW alliance name so I had to add it to this thread (hopefully I'm not spoiling anything for anyone)

It was given by the BB6ers, not a self-named one.....The Float Herd.

Yes, those season sixers are great at picking original alliance names! Smiles, and shakes head....


"RE: A matter of perspective..."
Posted by Denalio on 08-10-06 at 00:36 AM
>Yes, those season sixers are great
>at picking original alliance names!
> Smiles, and shakes head....
>

When I first read this post, I thought maybe there were alliances named "Smiles" and "Shakes Head"! I did not watch season 6 so I paused and wondered. Obviously an alliance named after the fearful spinning clown head would be a terrifying and fearsome name!

...but then I realized it was just wishful thinking...


"RE: A matter of perspective..."
Posted by Lasann on 08-05-06 at 10:31 AM
I agree. I also think that Janelle is playing a good game with the confused act. Will it work for her, we'll see.

Kaysar is the one who disappoints me. He doesn't seem to understand the dislike the other housemates have for the S6. He over-estimates loyality (like last year).

Danielle is an awesome player; Janelle is an awesome player; and Will is an awesome player. Will one of them win, I dunno.


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"RE: A matter of perspective..."
Posted by Buggy on 08-05-06 at 06:57 PM
I agree with what you say about Kaysar, Lasann.
I think he is one of those people who truely wants to believe the best in people. He is optimistic, and believes that if he is loyal he will get loyalty from others in return. Unfortunately that isn't necessarily a good way to play this type of game.
He seems to enjoy the stratagy part of the game, but but doesn't seem to understand the deception part.


Danielle is an awesome player; Janelle is an awesome player; and Will is an awesome player. Will one of them win, I dunno.

Win or lose, these 3 definately deserve the title, All Stars.



"RE: A matter of perspective..."
Posted by LIVEURBESTLIFE on 08-05-06 at 07:24 PM
I don't dislike Janelle. I just haven't seen her do anything that would qualify her as an All-Star. She seems to be physical enough to win competitions but winning comps doesn't really win you the game. If anything it makes you the target. So it's really not a good way to play or win.

She also seemed weak-minded and foolish in her conversations with Will. The way she protected CT in the veto comp was not really a smart move on her part.

I would be interested to get feedback on what makes her a great player because I don't see it.