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"Original Songs"
Posted by cheesybread on 08-08-06 at 08:54 PM

I'm surprised that no one has started a thread for this yet, and I realize the performance show is about to start but quickly my ranking and initial reaction to the original lyrics/performances:

(Clips of all rawkers full songs are on the official site!)

1) Patrice - Surprisingly good. Sounded way different then anyone else.

2) Toby - Lyrics were kind of unoriginal but I liked the way he performed it. Liked the hand echo thing.

3) Dilana - Again simple lyrics but catchy and seemed to agree with my vibe for the song (i.e. party song)

4) Josh - Another surpise. Good stuff I thought.

5) Lukas - Pretty good. More of the growl, but it works for this song. The wisper was good.

6) Magni - meh.

7) Ryan - Forced and unnecessarily dark for a pretty upbeat sounding track.

8) Storm - Disappointing. She should be better then this. I'm hoping that she is not just a good cover artist. It got better as the song went on but...

9) Jill - not bad but I don't get her lyrics at all.

10) Zayra - It was like listening to two different songs overlayed upon one another. I'll give it unique, but what else is new with this one.

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"RE: Original Songs"
Posted by Glow on 08-09-06 at 00:10 AM
Lukas - "I hate you, you hate me. I guess we understand. You follow me like shadows. The rest is in my head. I hate you, you make me. Why should we make amends. You follow me like shadows. I hope you understand"
"stop talking. stop talking. stop talking in that way."
the whisper... *composes self* I love how he writes. It's so original and different. I've had his stuff on constant replay until last Friday when I got a CD of a certain Mr. Star. Now he shares the constant replay.
Ryan - "Here comes the time. Time I've been waiting for. I've been praying. For you to be leaving."
"It's a lie. Lie that they're feeding you. I'll be needing you. I'll do the leaving."
I like Ryan's writing a lot. Like a whole lot. I suddenly can't get enough of his original stuff.
Josh - very cool
Patrice - she's definitely got a gift
Magni - he might be up here because of the vein. But his song was hot.
Toby - "Disease is a harsh, harsh word." -Lukas
Storm - it might be the bouncing that puts her up here. I'm not real sure.
Zayra - by default
Jill - ugh.
Dilana - ugh.


“Music has been my best friend my whole life, because music doesn’t betray you.” - Lukas Rossi

"RE: Original Songs"
Posted by cheesybread on 08-09-06 at 01:03 PM

Glow, did you actually find the lyrics somewhere or was this just from repeated listening? I remember Lucas and Ryan talking out their lyrics a bit in the episode.

I disagree about Ryan's lyrics, I don't find them original or compeling.

I think I need to watch them all again.

"RE: Original Songs"
Posted by Glow on 08-09-06 at 03:50 PM
That's me being obsessive (and them getting lots of face time writing their lyrics). I don't know the full songs. I haven't listened to those quite enough times. *goes to listen/watch some more*

Ryan's original stuff is very original. Maybe not this song, I guess. His "Songs From The Eye Of An Elephant" CD has hooked me. Just him and his beautiful self and a piano. *swoon*


“Music has been my best friend my whole life, because music doesn’t betray you.” - Lukas Rossi

"RE: Original Songs"
Posted by Ahtumbreez on 08-12-06 at 02:19 AM
Glowie- We could definitely go to a bar together and hangout, because we would NEVER fight over the same guys!
"RE: Original Songs"
Posted by Glow on 08-12-06 at 01:41 PM
LOL, Tummy. Deal! Let's go.

Wait a second... You don't think Ryan's hot? hunh. I thought he has a pretty normal kind of attractiveness I am being attracted to.


“Music has been my best friend my whole life, because music doesn’t betray you.” - Lukas Rossi

"RE: Original Songs"
Posted by weltek on 08-09-06 at 01:41 PM
Where on the site are the original song performances?

"RE: Original Songs"
Posted by cheesybread on 08-09-06 at 01:49 PM

Go to http://www.rockstar.msn.com and click on Watch Episodes.

At the bottom of the page you can scroll to different video clips using the left and right arrows. Scroll right until you find "Full Songs from weeks 6 songwriting clinic". Click on the thumbnail picture of Storm singing.

"RE: Original Songs"
Posted by weltek on 08-09-06 at 01:55 PM
Totally didn't realize those arrows were scroll arrows. I just thought they were decortation. I really despise the website this year.

"RE: Original Songs"
Posted by cheesybread on 08-09-06 at 02:15 PM

Yeah, it's kind of a pain in the butt. There was a straightforward video "archive" page, but I couldn't find it just now. I would have sent you there instead. All the flash animation is just annoying.
"RE: Original Songs"
Posted by weltek on 08-09-06 at 02:17 PM
1. Josh. Color me surprised. This was the best I've heard the boy sound.

2. Dilana. Fun song, good vocals. In the vein of what I think the song was intended for.

3. Ryan. Vocals sounded AWESOME. Good lyrics.

4.Patrice. Now I remember why I like her. Unfortunately this won't make her a great lead singer.

5. Lukas. I liked the whisper. I still couldn't understand half of his lyrics due to his mumbling.

6. Toby & Magni. Two very different songs, yet I can't decide whom/which I liked more. Both were pretty solid, but not WOW.

7. Storm. Ew. Good thing for her there were two worse than her. I don't think strongly making the lyrics female centric was a good choice.

8. Jill. Like storm, only more cliche.

9. Zayra. As cheesybread said, it was like listening to two songs being played over the top of eachother. I turned it off halfway through.

"RE: Original Songs"
Posted by nailbone on 08-09-06 at 04:40 PM
10) Zayra - It was like listening to two different songs overlayed upon one another. I'll give it unique, but what else is new with this one.

I wonder if that's some of that "production" stuff, as I mentioned in the "pitch problems" thread.


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"RE: Original Songs"
Posted by weltek on 08-11-06 at 02:08 PM
Nope, that wasn't it at all, boner. She just seemed to write lyrics to a song, regardless of what actually fit the music.

"RE: Original Songs"
Posted by Glow on 08-12-06 at 01:42 PM
She has a "producer's mentality". She probably was rearranging the music part of it in her head while she was writing the lyrics.


“Music has been my best friend my whole life, because music doesn’t betray you.” - Lukas Rossi

"RE: Original Songs"
Posted by cheesybread on 08-10-06 at 06:30 PM

So I just went back and watched/listened to all these songs again (twice) so I could form a better opinion then my earlier rush job. What I found was that I liked different parts of some of the songs but not the whole thing. I think 3 or 4 could be tweeked into decent songs.

Patrice - Still the best overall.

Toby - I liked they way his verses flowed, but I found the chorus sort of contrived. "You can't inject me, with your social disease.."

Dilana - I liked her much less on subsequent listens. I think the silly lyrics stand out more after a few times through.

Josh - I really liked almost everything but the chorus, "If I'm so wrong, somebody stop me." It doesn't really work for me.

Lukas - I liked it more on subsequent listens. However, I found the wisper annoying this time. I don't know why.

Magni - It seemed like a lot of effort with the vien and all but the singing was weak. Maybe it was a bad mix with the sound. Does he really need his vocals boosted?

Ryan - I liked it much more after a couple listens, but his straining seems uncomfortable to me. I know that is his style but I think he would be much more powerful if he could relax a little bit.

Storm - The sound on the video was bad. No really. It couldn't be Storm, right? Well it did get better as the song went on, but still kind of lame lyrics. About all I liked was the lines "Here lies me, no apologies."

Jill - I lied, I didn't listen to all of them over again. There really was no point to hearing her again.

Zayra - Again, this sucked so bad after the first 1/10th relisten I didn't bother again.

"RE: Original Songs"
Posted by mojofree on 08-11-06 at 01:09 PM
Well, good thread...I would like to see them do original songs first show...either ones they bring with them or one of the bands new tracks. Maybe Chris and Matt could have written killer songs and written for their voices. Would have been interesting.
My picks:
1. Patrice-unique among the group
2. Lukas-whisper was great, lyric were subtle jabs at the other rockers
3. Josh-not too bad
4. Toby-had a couple of good melodies
5. Jill-not so good but that darn chorus got stuck in my head...you wear your heart, like an accessory...arrgh
6.Ryan-i'm liking him better and better but this was a bit overdone
7.storm-a bit pathetic for such a force
8.Dilana-i'm a fan but gimme a break, no substance to those lyrics
9. Magni-just trying way too hard, i'm not impressed
10 Zayra- sigh!