I have a few ideas but it seemed silly to start separate threads for each characters because it would be too hard to keep up with that many individual threads. So...
I'll start a post for each character and then we can branch off from there, okay?
I thought it would be useful, now that we're getting more info on each character, to have a thread where we can go just to discuss character development/storylines and any ideas we have about their pasts/futures.I have a few ideas but it seemed silly to start separate threads for each characters because it would be too hard to keep up with that many individual threads. So...
I'll start a post for each character and then we can branch off from there, okay?
John Locke
The most intriguing character on TV right now.
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LAST EDITED ON 01-13-05 AT 03:15 PM (EST)He was in Australia to go on an adventure/safari
He had some sort of accident that left him unable to walk (I believe this accident was 4 years ago)
He had a bunch of knives with him for his adventure
He was shown to have a job in which he worked in a cubicle
He knows how to play backgammon
He was the first (as far as we can tell) to 'see the island for what it was'
He is trying to get people on 'his side' for some reason
He thinks Sayid is a 'smart guy'
He has Boone, Charlie, and Walt on his 'side' (from what we can infer)
He (and Boone) are the only ones who know about the hatch
He does NOT know (or at least was not in the group of people who know) about Danielle and the transceiver/message
He seems to be similar to the philosopher John Locke in that he seems to believe in Tabula Rasa (letting go to start anew, perhaps, as a clean slate on the island)
He knows about Danielle (Sayid talked to him about "Danielle's map" last night) but he was not with the group that heard the transmission.He is a somewhat capable hunter.
He had a romantic relationship with a "phone sex girl" that seems to be mostly only in his mind.
We do not know if he was ever married or ever had children.
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didn't he also make a rather assumptive comment about the maps too, like he knew they weren't any good? might have something to do with the beach that started to erode in a hurry.
He seems to be helping the others get passed their demons. Charlie and drugs, Boone and his attraction/dependence/whatever with Shannon, etc.
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Keep lookin' up, cuz that's where it all is. o-
Locke seems to be creating a group of people that will follow and obey him (Charlie, Boone, Walk, Michael). Some type of tribe or gang or cult. Something like Jim Jones. So far all of his followers have been male. I wonder if he is doing this to challenge the doctor as leader of the survivors or create some type of civil war among the survivors
I used the word "cult" to DW to describe Locke's gang. Definitely weird.
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On the episode "...In Translation," we learn that Locke's father is not "cool."
In Locke's eyes his father wasn't cool!
He likes it on the island, just like Walt.
I don't know if I'd say that Michael is a "follower". Seems to me he has never trusted Locke (with the exception of saving Walt from the polar bear) and in fact tried to keep Walt away from Locke as much as possible. Did I miss something?
I worked for a high tech company selling to the DoD (Department of Defense) and something struck me about Locke when he mentioned he worked for a "box company". A euphemism for one of the spy agencies--NSA or CIA, can't remember which, but I think it was NSA--was BOX COMPANY (as in, "working for the box company".)With his skills and knowledge he just had to have been working in a black agency.
Anyone else with knowledge in this area?
Or possibly the box company that Hurly owned before it burned down?
It wasn't the box company that burned down, it was the Canadian sneaker factory.
but wouldn't they have put the sneakers *into* boxes??just sayin
In last week's episode focusing on Hurley, there was a mention of some connection with Hurley and a box company (located in Tustin, CA if I heard right). But, my brain is mush and I can't remember. All I remember right now is that Mr. Reality and I looked at each other right after the utterance and I said, "Well, that blows the Locke/box company/NSA connection I had going on!"I'm sure one of you will jog my memory. I still like my theory...at least in theory!
By far my favorite. IMDB list that his character is based on the English philosopher, not that IMDB hasn't made mistakes before.His only friends before he left for Aus. were the ones he played Role playing games with. He also had an attachment to a phone sex operator named Helen, he used her more like a psychologist from the gist of the one conversation we heard, he passed her off at work as his girlfriend. Yes, he worked in a box company, his explanation in "Hearts and Minds", as a collections agent. I would guess it is the same box company Hurley now owns, I think I remember one of Locke's bosses saying something about new ownership.
He has an extensive knowledge on survival tactics bcuz he was going to Aus. for a "Walkabout", thus the name of the first Lockecenteric episode. He planned to live off the land for a few months like Crocodile Dundee, this would also explain all the different knives.
I believe before the Island he was socially inept, possibly married, then divorced or widowed, no kids, rough childhood, no military experience, coverts ops or otherwise. Since the island was his new start at life he wants to pass that opportunity on to others i.e. Charlie's heroin addiction, Boones problems with Shannon, Kate in general. I DO NOT THINK HE IS TRYING TO BUILD A FOLLOWING OR A CULT. He is just happy to feel needed and useful.
I will be adding more as his history becomes more detailed.
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." Dr. Hunter S. Thompson
And please, call me Funt
We learned a lot in Deus Ex Machina* Locke's mother was in the same mental hospital as Hurley's numbers "friend" (Sorry, was his name Lenny?)
* Locke's real father manipulated Locke into donating a kidney to him. His father is quite wealthy.
* Locke's mother believed (?) he was adopted, but he actually was in several foster homes
* Locke was hit by a car, but not paralyzed
* Locke had hair ;)
* Locke worked at a toy store and Mousetrap was his favorite game
* Locke did not learn to hunt until he was an adult
Emily Annabeth LockeInfo taken from photo of California DL :
-- DOB 10-15-40
-- license expiration date 3-20-94
-- Lived in Los Angeles at the timeSpent time in Santa Rosa Mental Health Institute. Admission date on the paperwork the investigator had was 10-5-92.
Has an Aunt named Bea Jones
Anthony CooperWealthy
Taught Locke how to hunt
Needed kidney transplant
Got Locke's mother to help him con Locke out of a kidney
Jack Sheppard
what can i say...other than i think he's 'tryin real hard to be a technoir'
Name Jack Shepardfather Christian Shephard, a drunk and a egotist Jack cost his dad his job, spoke out on ethics (when pregnancy mentioned) Argued to get his dad's body on plane (casket was empty). Dad's image led him to water. smothers and burys the marshal (when sawyer messes up) dad might have died in an altercation with sawyer in bar in aust. when locke helped him back up the clift, he was encouraged to "find what he was chasing" was only in austrailia to find and retrieve his dad. has the gun and amo, with key around his neck searched all luggage for medicine
The Healer, every castaway group needs one.I don't think Jack's father was killed by Sawyer or anyone, I believe he drank himself to death.
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." Dr. Hunter S. Thompson
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Was married? Or was he? We never did see the end of that ceremony...
I seem to remember that Jack's mom said something about "Sarah". Anyone else remember that?
- got married to a woman who was formerly a patient- tells woman in bar before flying that he is no longer married
Kate ? real name unknown?
Kate, ex CIA, military or law enforcement. see her use two guns one in either hand wounding her fellow bank robbers.. she's been trained.1. familure with the marshal that was bringing her in. he said maybe they'd believe her story.
2. robbed a bank in new mexico, for the plane, had it on her in Austraila. why was she in Aust?
3. was she biding her time with the farmer.. waiting for someone or something to happen
4. her father was a ranger, she tracked in the woods in Washington state with him
5. she and her mother stood on the beach sinking in.
6. the man she loved, the man she killed? her father?
7. is a gemeni (twin)
8. got Sun to admit she spoke english.
9. she's not annie or maggie
10. lies about everything
11. lifted the key out of the wallet very skillfully
12. pretends she knows nothing of guns very skillfully
13. is basicly good, saved the farmer from the fire, saved the bank manager from being killed, put the oxygen mask on the marshal.
on kate's mug shot, Harrison Valley Police (Harrison Valley Pennsylvania? pop 1,083) what was she wanted for in rural PA?
*killed someone
*was married
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LAST EDITED ON 03-24-05 AT 01:41 PM (EST)Kate Ryan AKA Annie and Maggie, Kate may not be her real name either.
Is the middle of a love trinagle between Jack and Sawyer.
I believe she may be a military brat, moved from place to place when she was younger, but spent a good amount of time in Washington state, where her father taught her how to track, possibly hunt and shot, although I would assume that would be with rifles.
Gemini, the twin. Some spec she may have a twin somewhere, even going as far to connect her to Alias. That seems really far fetched.
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." Dr. Hunter S. Thompson
And please, call me Funt
- surnames used: Ryan, Austin, Dodds?- her mother is terrified of her
- inadvertantly killed her first-love Tom
Also used the name Joan Hart when picking up her mail.
Charlie Pace
charlie Pace played bass in band "driveshaft" tape on fingers "late", "fate" was addicted to drugs kicked it with Locke's help to gain his guitar (hummmm he hasn't played it around the campfire since.) brother is Liam, no longer a junkie, lives in Australia from Manchester England Catholic wanted to help, be a friend to claire was hung, dead, and revived for following Ethan
Worked as a grfter to pay for his drugs.
Lost the woman he loved, due to his addiction. I cant remember what his love interest said to him when he was standing at the door and she layed into him, but I remember it was quite a statement. Does anyone remember?LookeeLoo
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I’m not sure of the exact words, but the gist of the conversation was that the girlfriend asked why he chose to take the job from her dad if he was just planning on stealing from her. Charlie said he wanted to be respectable and he wanted to be able to take care of her. She replied that he would never be able to take care of anyone…This of course provides a lot of the motivation for Charlie’s attitude/devotion to Claire. He is trying to prove that he is capable of caring for someone besides himself. Even to the point of killing Ethan for Claire.
That was it! Thanks TenPin.LookeeLoo
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You know, I am not sure what else could be shown about Charlie's past that could really enhance his character much. Maybe some stuff before he was in the confessional ready to quit driveshaft, but not much else, unless they want to start a new storyline. I think all of his character developement is going to be tied into Claire and her baby. They could do flashbacks to when he was kidnapped as well.Which leads me to another thought, how long will they use the flashbacks as a tool to create story line. Yes, there are some gaping holes in certain peoples stories, Kate is the first to come to mind, but now I am wandering.
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." Dr. Hunter S. ThompsonAnd please, call me Funt
Leslie?
His father committed suicide.His family was the victim of a conman.
He became a con-man, himself.
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This guy is something else! Can endure a lot of pain for just a kiss. Has a phenomenally bad aditude. Seems like a bully/badass, and yet I don’t recall him trying to do a lot of harm (or get revenge) on anyone. All pointing toward a cracking of his hard shell IMO.
Frankly, I don't think this guy's bad at all. If I were stuck on the island with him, I wouldn't be making scornful faces at him like everyone else is, I would make friends. i don't think it'd be hard at all. I'd just be nice, and stop assuming he's a pig. The reason he's acting like a pig is because people approach him with the attitude that he IS one. Just like with the inhalers. If Boone had just gone to him, stated the problem, asked him nicely-- I doubt ANY of that would have happened.
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*killed someone who he thought was the actual Sawyer, but ended up killing the wrong man because he was set-up.
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Sawyer did that after meeting with Jack's father if I am not mistaken.Also, in Boone's epi we were shown Sawyer being arrested in the background and stating something to the effect "I just wanted to return the man's bottle".
His first name...I think they said it was James, but I could be mistaken. Does anyone remember?Initially he couldn't bring himself to kill the Sawyer set-up. Jack's father talked him into it at the bar.
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His first name...I think they said it was James, but I could be mistaken. Does anyone remember?You are correct, Mons. He told Jack's dad his name was James. He did not reveal a last name though.
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From the episode in which Sawyer is expelled from Australia, the police officer, reading from his file, says his name is "James Fall."Lis
...or was it James Ford?
Sayid ?
member of Iraq Republican Guard communications expert, and tinker-er walked the paremeter of the island to map it saw Daniele and came back to say "we are not alone" tortured sawyer for Shannon's meds (didn't work) was in love with Nadia and helped her escape trying to figure out maps, compass doesn't find true north was hit on head when trying to triangulate signals.
terrible photo
Sun ?
I wondered last week how long it would be before her English-speaking was exposed.
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Keep lookin' up, cuz that's where it all is. o-
She knows a lot about herbs, flowers, and plants.
Sun learned English so she could leave her husband Jin, where was she planning on living? she wouldn't need English if she was going to live in Korea. She was going to walk out of the airport in Austrailia, was she planning on living there?
Sun grew up in a wealthy family with a domineering father. Loved Jin enough to leave daddy's grasp, but to no avail. Wanted to leave Jin, but changed her mind at the last minute.
Claire Littleton?
8 mo's pregnant by Thomas (not married) psysic(Richard Malkn) said she must raise the baby he needs her goodness abducted by Ethan keeps a journal is Australian has daddy abadonment issues
LAST EDITED ON 01-13-05 AT 01:46 PM (EST)Boone Carlisle
or boone Carlyle ran a wedding clothing business subsiderary of mother's (Sebrina Carlyle) assumed responsibility for shannon his stepsister lifted the bun and amo clip form sleeping sawyer & sayid mother married shannons father when he was 10 was in love with his stepsister Shannnon. was RELIEVED with his "vision" of shannon's death appears content to "follow" locke
His ice blue eyes look very much like Locke's. Also like Locke's mother. Father-son, perhaps? We have not heard much if anything about Boone' s dad.
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LAST EDITED ON 01-13-05 AT 01:46 PM (EST)Shannon Rutheford
According to Boone, she was married once, but isn't anymore.
She has asthma andspeaks/understands a little french
Perhaps daughter of "Mr. Rutherford" that was killed in a car accident caused by Jack's wife Sarah.
Michael ?
Worked in construction for awhile. Also an artist.
We now know his last name is Dawson.He was never married to Susan, Walt's mother.
Walt ?
His "other" dad was named Brian. His mom got really sick and died. He's "moved around a lot." He has a dog named Vincent.
He is also extremely lucky, as we found out when he played backgammon with Hurley.
Weird things happen around Walt. His stepfather was 'afraid' of him, and didn't want him. He's a pretty strong-willed kid.My interpretation is that what Walt pictures is what happens. When he was demanding his parents' attention and they were preoccupied, a bird crashed into the window and died. It was evidently the same bird that he had been looking at in his textbook moments before. Then there's the polar bear appearing, twice. the 'odd' thing is that the polar bear Walt conjured up (if indeed he did so) chased HIM down, rather than going after the object of his ire (at that time his father). That's kind of a relief, in a way. It would seem a bit too obvious if Walt conjured up monsters that went after whoever he was currently mad at. And it would present Walt as one of those crazy-scary horror movie brats with malevolent power they can't control-- and that's just been done to death.
I can't believe I'm the first to post this.
Was there a blackout or something?
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Walt Lloyd (Susan's last name)
or
Walt Porter (Bryan's last name)
Burned the raft his father was building because he does not want to leave the island. Did he make it burn or physically set it on fire?
i'm guessing he just thot it. he seems to be a good kid, and i don't think he'd walk up and set it aflame...but he didn't seem too remorseful when confronted by locke. maybe he's starting to realize he has 'powers' and can use them.
Agree. Not sure really if he did this on purpose. If I suddenly thought that I was "affecting" things around me, but didn't know how to control it, I'd be scared.LookeeLoo
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Kidnapped by the Others.
Jin ?
Does he also speak english? He sure seemed to react to what Hurley was trying to tell him in the fishing fiasco and during the pee on my foot incident
I really don't think he does speak English.
I really liked Jin in this last episode; the interaction between him and Hurley was beyond comic relief, it was great exposition. He's, imo, showing himself to be more of the man that gave Sun a flower and was willing to do anything to make her happy. It makes him a bit more tragic as well, though. After all, this guy became a hitman so he could make a life for himself and Sun.
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Not an assassin.Lied about his father's death because he was ashamed of father being a fisherman.
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