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""The Other Woman"-3/6/08"
Posted by zombiebaby on 03-06-08 at 09:39 AM
Based on last week's previews and off island incidents...I'm worried for Jin.



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"RE: "The Other Woman"-3/6/08"
Posted by frodis on 03-06-08 at 02:05 PM
I think I need to find myself someone who can make me a LOST sig. How can I be your Constant if I don't have a LOST sig?

Nooooooo! I *heart* Jin!

"RE: "The Other Woman"-3/6/08"
Posted by zombiebaby on 03-06-08 at 04:10 PM
I just tried making you one! I have it saved but can't upload it. It is too big. I don't know how to do it.

Trust me it is not even as good as a Bob original. But I do think it is funny.

"RE: "The Other Woman"-3/6/08"
Posted by frodis on 03-07-08 at 02:31 PM
*showing off*

So, if I post a message and don't use this sig, does your brain fall apart?


It's a Zombie original. Really!

"RE: "The Other Woman"-3/6/08"
Posted by zombiebaby on 03-07-08 at 03:08 PM
Squeeee!

I never made one before and that my Constant is pretty terrible!

The eye is supposed to be you and also the connection to Lost with all the eye shots. Get it? My smoke monster is also pretty detailed. I suprised it all showed up. *snort*

"RE: "The Other Woman"-3/6/08"
Posted by Breezy on 03-07-08 at 08:26 AM
Me too, me too! I think I need one too. *grin*
"RE: "The Other Woman"-3/6/08"
Posted by pinksparkleguitar on 03-06-08 at 02:56 PM
I'm worried for Jin too....



Sig by Tribe- the real 'Jacob' of the island.

"RE: "The Other Woman"-3/6/08"
Posted by Ahtumbreez on 03-06-08 at 03:32 PM
That'll teach him to drink and drive.

My internal Lost clock has started. Getting giddy in anticipation!


Agman took me to the islands

"RE: "The Other Woman"-3/6/08"
Posted by CTgirl on 03-06-08 at 03:54 PM
Here's a video to up your giddiness: a montage of Sawyer and his nicknames.

It's hilarious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=or_BGsW7Mgg&NR=1


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"RE: "The Other Woman"-3/6/08"
Posted by Ahtumbreez on 03-06-08 at 04:19 PM
*snort

It's bad that when I came to my senses I was licking my screen, isn't it?


Agman took me to the islands

"RE: "The Other Woman"-3/6/08"
Posted by TxMom2011 on 03-13-08 at 01:04 PM
Thanks CT Girl!! That was AWESOME!
"RE: "The Other Woman"-3/6/08"
Posted by blacknwhitedog on 03-06-08 at 04:20 PM
Why are you worried about Jin?
Does anyone else take their phone off the hook from 9-10pm EST?

hidden text spoilers:

This is a Juliet episode.
The Other Woman
First aired: 3/6/2008 Production Code: 406
Juliet receives an unwelcome visit from someone from her past and is given orders to track down Charlotte and Faraday in order to stop them from completing their mission -- by any means necessary. Meanwhile, Ben offers Locke an enticing deal.

Writer: Drew Goddard, Christina M. Kim
Director: Eric Laneuville
Guest star: William Mapother (Ethan Rom), Brett Cullen (Goodwin), M.C. Gainey (Tom Friendly), Alan Dale (Charles Widmore) , Andrea Roth (Harper)

p.s. Jin is mentioned in next week's episode guide- so I think he is around for one more week.


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"RE: "The Other Woman"-3/6/08"
Posted by Ahtumbreez on 03-06-08 at 04:52 PM
Bawdy! I have the popcorn and the No Talking sign ready!


Agman took me to the islands

"RE: "The Other Woman"-3/6/08"
Posted by dajaki on 03-07-08 at 00:17 AM
Excellent episode. So glad to see the return of Brett Cullen who is yummy. Won't say more 'til the Californians are done watching.
"RE: "The Other Woman"-3/6/08"
Posted by cycles2k on 03-07-08 at 02:46 AM
LAST EDITED ON 03-07-08 AT 02:47 AM (EST)

Great episode, but aren't they all this season?

My favorite part was when Juliette told Jack that Ben would win the war. It would have been when Ben told John Locke about his man on the ship but we viewers were excluded from that particular revelation. Therefore, that became my least favorite part. It was too contrived.

Loved Ben's line about the rabbit having a number on it.

Why would the people from the freighter need to sneak off to render the gas inert? Couldn't they just have told the Losties or maybe even asked for help?

Why didn't Jack threaten to kill anybody this week. Was he tired or just bored?


"RE: "The Other Woman"-3/6/08"
Posted by zombiebaby on 03-07-08 at 08:14 AM
Another winner.

I thought this episode was very self referencial and a bit cheeky. Lot's of the characters were in it as well. When you think about it Lost has a huge cast.

Confused about what episode it was that we originally saw Juliet in bed with Goodwin. Wasn't this her 2nd flashback episode or am I missing one? I ask because from last night it appeared Ben sent Goodwin to the wreckage right away and there was no goodbyes.

Goodwin's wife is scary looking. Bad plastic surgery lady.

Ben? Cracks me up. He is awesome. He was channeling Gene Wilder as Willy Wonka last night. Maybe that's why he reminds me of someone...hmmm.

What was up with Jack and Juliet? Wasn't it only yesterday that Jack was proclaiming his love for Kate? Culd they add more people to this octagon? Ben now? Just did not ring true to his character unless he is playing Juliet to keep her close and he still does not trust her.

Pure speculation on my part regarding next week: I still think Jin is a goner. Plus I wonder if Micheal will be part od sun's future. Remember back in Season 1 all that Sun/Micheal tension? I don't know if I think he is Ben's man on the boat as everone seems to think. What a cop out for this show if so. At least in twist potential.


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"RE: "The Other Woman"-3/6/08"
Posted by Breezy on 03-07-08 at 08:25 AM
You missed something in the Ben/Juliet/Goodwin/Jack triangle... Goodwin told Juliet that Ben brought her to the island because she looked just like "her". Who is her?

I love Ben's actor, love him. He is really really good. I totally got the same Wilder/Willy Wonka vibe from him last night.

Oohhhhhhhhh I had a thought last night about "who" is Ben's man on the boat. What if it's Sayid? I'll let that sink in for a moment or three...


Breezy and Brett sitting in a tree...

"RE: "The Other Woman"-3/6/08"
Posted by zombiebaby on 03-07-08 at 08:36 AM
Oh she looks like Annie is what I assumed...the girl he had a crush on when he was younger. I was wondering if when Juliet was asking him if they wanted "Jack on the list" to perform Ben's surgery if he knew the future that Jack would be another rival for Juliet and that is why he was hesitant.

Another thing...when Locke went into the safe wasn't the tape the only thing in there? Then Ben goes back to the safe later and there is that whole file? On another show I might say production error but this show?

I actually think it is Sayid who is the man on the boat. Ever since his flash forward episode. Either him or Frank. But I lean towards Sayid.

"See ya guys at supper!"

"RE: "The Other Woman"-3/6/08"
Posted by Breezy on 03-07-08 at 08:39 AM
I missed the Annie episode.

Yes! Thankyou, I was confused on where the file came from too. When Locke opened the safe it only had a video tape in there.

*grin* Great minds think alike!

*snort* His character cracks me up sometimes.

"RE: "The Other Woman"-3/6/08"
Posted by BlueLies on 03-12-08 at 05:32 PM
Ben is probably looking for a "replacement" for his Mom. I do not believe Ben could ever actually have sex with a woman....
creepy stuff!
"RE: "The Other Woman"-3/6/08"
Posted by mrc on 03-07-08 at 08:31 AM
Goodwin's wife is scary looking. Bad plastic surgery lady.

She reminded me of Doc Ally on Scott Baio's reality show. Did anyone else think that she was dead, and Ben sent her via Jacob?

Ben? Cracks me up. He is awesome. He was channeling Gene Wilder as Willy Wonka last night. Maybe that's why he reminds me of someone...hmmm.

You rang?

Ben now? Just did not ring true to his character unless he is playing Juliet to keep her close and he still does not trust her.

I disagree. He might have been playing her by exploiting her need to be close to someone, but I think his crush on Juliet and his jealousy of Goodwin shows how close to the edge he really is mentally.

Tribefied

"RE: "The Other Woman"-3/6/08"
Posted by Breezy on 03-07-08 at 08:34 AM
Did anyone else think that she was dead, and Ben sent her via Jacob?

Totally thought that exact same thing.

"RE: "The Other Woman"-3/6/08"
Posted by Ahtumbreez on 03-07-08 at 09:11 AM
Question/ponderings -

When Lost originally showed the crash from the Others perspective it started with Juliet's bookclub scene and they intimated tension already between Juliet and Ben. Remember the scene where Ben asks Juliet something about being excluded from the bookclub also? But then last night they had Ben and Juliet dining together after he had already sent they guys to the crash sites and there was no tension at least on Ben's part. Goof? or am I missing something.

I thought they were going to show Kate watching the kiss between Jack and Juliet.

I don't understand why Faraday and tribe doesn't just explain what they're doing there.

More numbers - Ben's safe 36 15 28 and speaking of numbers - funny line Ben asking if there was a number on the rabbit he was about to eat.

Could Ben's "her" that Harper referred to be Ben's mother. Remember, she had long blonde hair. Maybe he has an Oedipus complex. And since I brought up William Shakespeare the new Dharma station The Tempest - a Shakespeare play about a man and his daughter shipwrecked on an island with a lot of paranormal stuff ( I would have just gotten an F grade on that description .

I'm still thinking Micheal can be the only shock factor of who's on the ship (not for us but for the Losties).

I probably have more musings but my brain is still foggy from meds and lack of caffiene.


Agman took me to the islands

"RE: "The Other Woman"-3/6/08"
Posted by warp_core breach on 03-07-08 at 03:17 PM
>When Lost originally showed the crash
>from the Others perspective it
>started with Juliet's bookclub scene
>and they intimated tension already
>between Juliet and Ben. Remember
>the scene where Ben asks
>Juliet something about being excluded
>from the bookclub also?
>But then last night they
>had Ben and Juliet dining
>together after he had already
>sent they guys to the
>crash sites and there was
>no tension at least on
>Ben's part. Goof? or
>am I missing something.

I thought the same thing.

>I'm still thinking Micheal can be
>the only shock factor of
>who's on the ship (not
>for us but for the
>Losties).

Agree. Previews for next week's episode said that we would be seeing "someone you thought you'd never see again". Although, I guess it is possible that Michael may not be Ben's spy (as others have posted here) and that Michael's just on the boat for whatever reason. Who knows, maybe Michael is working for Charles Whidmore.

Love this show! This season is so much better than last season. I love Ben. He's the best villain. He's done so much to these people but he still gets his way. I loved the ending... Ben walking with towels to his place, Sawyer and Hurley stunned and Ben saying "See you guys at dinner." Love it!

I'm away next week and will have to rely on my 1910 VCR to tape the episode! I'm crossing my fingers that it will tape the episode decently.


Siggie courtesy of Seana

"RE: "The Other Woman"-3/6/08"
Posted by CTgirl on 03-08-08 at 11:44 AM
But then last night they had Ben and Juliet dining together after he had already sent they guys to the crash sites and there was no tension at least on Ben's part.

I thought the same thing too. But DL and CC wouldn't make a mistake that big. Now I think that Ben was pleased that Goodwin was out of the way and that he could move in on Juliet. Plus Juliet was starting to realize that Ben had her cornered, so she was playing along. Michael Emerson is a wonderful actor - he played a convincingly lovestruck psycho!

"RE: "The Other Woman"-3/6/08"
Posted by mrc on 03-07-08 at 08:42 AM
My thoughts:

1. The video Ben showed Locke was shot after the BoSox won the World Series. Who was shooting the video? Why does Ben have people positioned off of the island?

2. Ben has a good point about people wanting to flock to the island, but is that really the reason he wants to keep it a secret?

3. Like Breezy said, who does Juliet look like?

4. The preview said that we would find out the last of the Oceanic Six next week. If Aaron is not considered one of them, who does that leave that we already know about? Jack, Kate, Sayid, Hurley, and _____? Or was that preview ambiguous enough to indicate that two will be shown next week?

5. I'm perplexed by Faraday and Lewis. What the heck are they really trying to accomplish?

Tribefied

"RE: "The Other Woman"-3/6/08"
Posted by zombiebaby on 03-07-08 at 09:32 AM
1. So it was also done after he showed Jack that tape too. Weird that he was using a vdeotape too with all the technology the island has. Seems outdated.

2. I don't trust Ben at all. He is thinking one step ahead or is revealinf half tuths or holding back info.

3. I like Tummy's idea up there about his mother instead of Annie.

4. I thought they said Aaron was one of the Oceanic 6? Previews for that episode said it would be revealed as another one revealed. We had already known that Kate, Jack and Sayid were. (Kate revealed in season finale when Jack mentioned the Golden Pass that they were given by Oceanic). Last night's preview said "the final" one would be revealed.

5. I certainly don't know.

6. Finland!

"RE: "The Other Woman"-3/6/08"
Posted by ropefish_3 on 03-12-08 at 11:22 AM
My thoughts:
1. The video Ben showed Locke was shot after the BoSox won the World Series. Who was shooting the video? Why does Ben have people positioned off of the island?

Good questions. The only other time I remember seeing a video he had shot was of Juliet's sister and son. So Ben has people off island working for him too. I wonder why they would still pledge allegiance to him if they were no longer stuck on the island.



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"RE: "The Other Woman"-3/6/08"
Posted by Breezy on 03-12-08 at 03:16 PM
I wonder why they would still pledge allegiance to him if they were no longer stuck on the island.

Because they want to get back on the island.

"RE: "The Other Woman"-3/6/08"
Posted by dajaki on 03-12-08 at 11:52 PM
I got the impression that it wasn't a video of Juliette's sister and nephew, but a live feed. Ben's got peeps everywhere.
"OMH! grrrr"
Posted by Breezy on 03-07-08 at 08:54 AM
I just told my coworker that I'm never talking to him on Fridays again. He thinks that Ben's man on the boat is...

Locke!!!!

Because of all the time shifts and Ben's "abilities", he thinks that he will manipulate Locke to being on the boat. That's why he has Locke sit down before he told him.

I think my brain is going to explode.

"RE: OMH! grrrr"
Posted by Ahtumbreez on 03-07-08 at 09:13 AM
LAST EDITED ON 03-07-08 AT 09:14 AM (EST)

Oh!!! Good one. Kind of my reaction when co-worker mentioned tsunami last week

And Locke has had ALOT of exposure to radiation with his medical history.

Which makes me wonder - the List - I wonder if the List is people who may have had exposure to radiation or electromagnetism?


Agman took me to the islands
et replace - Ben with Locke

"RE: OMH! grrrr"
Posted by zombiebaby on 03-07-08 at 09:45 AM
Could be...I also think Ben could be a possiblity himself.

My picks now, Ben, Sayid or Locke.

Anyone else finding it takes a looooong time to post here today? Is it slow for everyone or just me. I have high speed too.

Because of that I wanted to respond to your timeline question above about the book club and stuff. I thought the same thing. It seem screwy now I agree.

"Hey, Zombs!"
Posted by mrc on 03-07-08 at 09:43 AM
You'll LYAO at this:

http://www.lost-forum.com/showpost.php?p=2689380&postcount=8

*no spoilers*

Tribefied

"RE: Hey, Zombs!"
Posted by zombiebaby on 03-07-08 at 09:53 AM
Wah...it says I have to be a member to get in and due to the high volume after the epsiodes it is closed until tomorrow.

Is that a good site anyway? Should I join up?(which I can't do until tomorrow anyway)

Did you have rabbit last night?

"RE: Hey, Zombs!"
Posted by Ahtumbreez on 03-07-08 at 09:56 AM
Ditto. It won't let me register either Is it worth it?

Ick, rabbit.

I'm not having issues with posting here.


Agman took me to the islands

"RE: Hey, Zombs!"
Posted by mrc on 03-07-08 at 10:07 AM
The site is free, but I wouldn't register unless you have a lot of time and aren't afraid of learning too much about Lost. They are good about tagging spoilers, but I've learned more about Lost than I ever intended.

Here is what I wanted you to see. Notice any similarity?

Tribefied

"RE: Hey, Zombs!"
Posted by zombiebaby on 03-07-08 at 10:38 AM
Is that Stingy from LazyTown? It's MINE!!! Bwahhh!

He also looks like Pee Wee Herman.

"RE: Hey, Zombs!"
Posted by mrc on 03-07-08 at 10:43 AM
Yep. I knew you'd recognize him.

PeeWee Herman? I look like PW?!?!?

Tribefied

"RE: "The Other Woman"-3/6/08"
Posted by blacknwhitedog on 03-07-08 at 10:15 AM
LAST EDITED ON 03-07-08 AT 10:22 AM (EST)

Could the Ben/Juliet crush be more creepy and is Michael Emerson a terrific actor or what?!

I assumed the "her" was Annie. So that's how he gassed everyone- interesting.

I watched last week's "pop-up-video" episode. It said the captain of the Black Rock was Magnus Hanso- the owner of the diary was Tovard Hanso and the Darma financer is Alvar Hanso. Charles Widmore now owns the diary which presumably helped him find the island.

The tape Ben played seemed almost fake- especially when Widmore looked at the camera.

Great lines in this episode- when Juliet said it's stressful being an "other"- snort

The book Ben is reading is VALIS by Phillip K. D!ck


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"RE: "The Other Woman"-3/6/08"
Posted by Max Headroom on 03-07-08 at 10:42 AM
I didn't think this episode was as good as last week's, but it was still an enjoyable hour of television.

My favorite scene was at the end, when Sawyer and Hurley were playing horseshoes and Ben scuttled by them with a stack of towels in his hands. The befuddled look on Sawyer's face was priceless! I could almost hear him thinking, "Doesn't anyone ever tell me anything around here?"

"RE: "The Other Woman"-3/6/08"
Posted by Ahtumbreez on 03-07-08 at 10:49 AM
I agree with everything about this post!


Agman took me to the islands

"RE: "The Other Woman"-3/6/08"
Posted by pinksparkleguitar on 03-07-08 at 01:20 PM
LAST EDITED ON 03-07-08 AT 01:20 PM (EST)

'See you guys at dinner!'

LMAO.



Sig by Tribe- the real 'Jacob' of the island.

"RE: "The Other Woman"-3/6/08"
Posted by CTgirl on 03-08-08 at 11:50 AM
I too agree with both statements!

That last scene is what I love most about Lost. The everyday scenes around the island that are clever and funny and still further the plot are better than when we are zooming around the world learning, yet again, how far-reaching Dharma is.

"Ben and Widmore"
Posted by Chez on 03-07-08 at 03:37 PM
Ben told Locke he didn't know how Widmore knew about the island. This made me wonder if Ben knows about Penny and Desmond, or that Penny is Widmore's daughter. In fact, does Ben really know much of anything at all about Desmond? After all, his main information source on the Losties was by using the Oceanic 815 passenger list to help compile their confidential files. Suppose Desmond somehow slipped through Ben's notice. Sure Ben might have seen Desmond when spying through the Pearl, but maybe Ben knows very little about Desmond's background.

Come to think about it, have Ben and Desmond ever been face to face? I don't recall any circumstance where they were.


Ben's possible spy (Michael) may not have ever met Desmond either, now that I think about it. Desmond never met the other Losties originally until after Michael went off on the raft. Then Desmond disappeared into the jungle until later after Michael had led Jack, Kate, Sawyer and Hurley into the trap.

So did Desomnd somehow alert Penny to the existence of the island and that is how Widmore knows aboutit, but Ben can't figure this out?

Maybe this all does not matter. But in this thought exercise I found it interesting to conclude that Michael most likely has never met Desmond. Maybe that will prove to be a key point if and when they encounter each other, for example on the freighter.

"RE: Ben and Widmore"
Posted by mrc on 03-07-08 at 03:47 PM
Have Ben and Des met? Interesting question.

Tribefied

"RE: Ben and Widmore"
Posted by blacknwhitedog on 03-07-08 at 03:59 PM
I just remembered something about Desmond

in the episode where he has flashes- he meets and talks to his friend Donovan in a pub about time travel- Donovan is a physics professor and maybe he knows Faraday?- its the episode where he predicts the outcome of the soccer game and gets hit in the head with the bat


Syren 2007


"Yes"
Posted by zombiebaby on 03-07-08 at 04:00 PM
Ben and Des- Ben held in the hatch, Desmond was at least in the living areas when he was held. At least as far as I can remember they were in a scene by the radio tower together when they were trying to call the freighter in last season's finale.

Micheal killed AnaLucia and Libby in the hatch. Micheal met Desmond shortly before then.

I am not assuming that Widmore is bad anymore. He most likely is but I don't believe Ben. That was too easy.


"Yup"
Posted by Breezy on 03-07-08 at 04:19 PM
And Widmore used the diary he bought last week to help him find the island is what I think.

"RE: Yes"
Posted by blacknwhitedog on 03-07-08 at 04:20 PM
there was a short time when Desmond left the hatch and disappeared

Locke had shot the computer and Desmond took off- he came back later in his sailboat

I'm not sure if he was gone while they were holding Ben in the hatch



Syren 2007


"RE: Yes"
Posted by Chez on 03-07-08 at 05:21 PM
No.

Desmond ran into the jungle shortly after Locke blew open the hatch.

Then we never saw him again until he reappeared in his sailboat, and that happened after Ben was released from the Hatch by Michael, and after Michael had led Jack, Kate, Sawyer and Hurley into the trap with the Others.

Desmond was missing for the entire time Ben was captured, and while Michael was back.