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"The Apprentice, Episode 11: East Coast Discussion"
Posted by ARnutz on 04-07-05 at 08:55 PM
LAST EDITED ON 04-07-05 AT 08:56 PM (EST)

Please keep all discussions to this thread until the folks on the West Coast have had a chance to see the show!


(After midnight Eastern)

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"RE: The Apprentice, Episode 11: East Coast Discussion"
Posted by seahorse on 04-07-05 at 09:01 PM
Chris tells the group that he was out of control according to Trump and he was close to being fired.
"RE: The Apprentice, Episode 11: East Coast Discussion"
Posted by seahorse on 04-07-05 at 09:03 PM
Task is to design a clothing line of wearable technology clothing.
"RE: The Apprentice, Episode 11: East Coast Discussion"
Posted by ARnutz on 04-07-05 at 09:07 PM
Oh my! Happy 10K seahorse!
"RE: The Apprentice, Episode 11: East Coast Discussion"
Posted by ARnutz on 04-07-05 at 09:04 PM
The Task:

Michelle (George's substitute) & Carolyn will be watching.


Create your own line of clothing for American Eagle, make it gadget friendly. $5000 Visa Card


They are given designers and models.

Trump tells the teams that Domino's didn't want meatball pizza, so they went with Chesseburger pizza.


Alex is PM for Net Worth.

"RE: The Apprentice, Episode 11: East Coast Discussion"
Posted by ARnutz on 04-07-05 at 09:06 PM
Tana is PM for Magna and will ask the "young people" about their preferences for gadgets.

She is asking them what would be a good place to keep a cell phone in their clothing.


Ack! I can't do this like Kathliam!

"RE: The Apprentice, Episode 11: East Coast Discussion"
Posted by seahorse on 04-07-05 at 09:30 PM
The fact that Magna knew a cell phone was the number one technology gadget was a big plus for them. They did research.
"First Segment"
Posted by kathliam on 04-07-05 at 09:07 PM
Alex and Chris return to the suite. They are telling their Boardroom stories.

Morning over Manhattan. The teams leave the suite without our usual phone call and meet Donald in a clothing studio of some sort. We have Michelle substituting for George today. Oh, they are in the design studio for The Trump Collection. Teams will design their own line of clothing for American Eagle. Each team gets VISA with $5,000 limit to purchase electronic gadgets, must design wearable technology clothing. Bren has exemption since he was winning PM last week. He also tells the teams they both created meatball pizzas last week.

Alex will be PM for NetWorth. He has lots of ideas for designs. He assigns Angie to make presentation, Chris will be accountant.

Tana will be PM for Magna. Tana and Kendra head to American Eagle store to see what kids are buying and what gadgets they like, what design ideas they would like for their gadgets.

Chris is as Best Buy and spends $3,935 on gadgets, picks up dinner and meets with Angie and Alex. Chris realizes he's lost his credit card. He calls Best Buy but they're closed and he only gets a recording.

"RE: First Segment"
Posted by ARnutz on 04-07-05 at 09:08 PM
Yay! You're here! You are the master of this, I can't type like you can!
"RE: The Apprentice, Episode 11: East Coast Discussion"
Posted by ARnutz on 04-07-05 at 09:07 PM
Oh boy!!! Chris lost the $5000 Visa card!
"RE: The Apprentice, Episode 11: East Coast Discussion"
Posted by kathliam on 04-07-05 at 09:09 PM
Hey we knew that was coming as soon as he agreed to be the accountant.
"RE: The Apprentice, Episode 11: East Coast Discussion"
Posted by tinybubs on 04-07-05 at 09:10 PM
Chris doesn't deserve to be fired, he deserves to be shot!
"RE: The Apprentice, Episode 11: East Coast Discussion"
Posted by ARnutz on 04-07-05 at 09:15 PM
*snort*
"RE: The Apprentice, Episode 11: East Coast Discussion"
Posted by seahorse on 04-07-05 at 09:08 PM
Magna is doing some market research on what to do for their clothing line. Net Worth is going straight to buying their inventory.
"Magna"
Posted by ARnutz on 04-07-05 at 09:17 PM
Is doing a great job so far, except for Kendra. Tana is a good leader and Bren & Craig came up with a few designs already, but Kendra basically threw her hands up and said, "this is not my thing, technology..." whatever...
"RE: Magna"
Posted by ARnutz on 04-07-05 at 09:20 PM
The team came back to Tana with "pieces of crap". She took the reins and moved on!


Now Net Worth's models are lost?

"Net Worth"
Posted by ARnutz on 04-07-05 at 09:19 PM
Alex assigned a lot of work to Angie and Chris found the credit card.

This team is in trouble.

"Second segment"
Posted by kathliam on 04-07-05 at 09:21 PM
Trump Lesson of the week; Let Nothing Get In Your Way.

Chris returns to Best Buy to retrieve his credit card but it isn't in the store safe. He's frustrated and is craving tobacco. Who is the guy with him?

Magna is at the American Eagle design studio. Tana designs a 'Wearable Tech' logo to put on the clothes to distinguish their product. Craig and Bren are throwing ideas how to incorporate the gadgets for mens clothes. They turn to Kendra for her ideas and she says this just isn't her thing and she doesn't know fashion. Tana reigns them in an says we're going with what we got.

Angie is with the designers working out details on their line, it's more intricate than she expected. Alex has a list on whiteboard of duties, Chris has 4 or 5, Alex has like 2, and Angie has like 20 things on her list.

Chris is still at Best Buy waiting for his credit card.

Bren and Craig head to Brooklyn to pick up the clothes they had silkscreened with their logo. Bren says his 'spidey sense' kicked in (Bob Marley posters on the wall). The logos are backwards, there are spots all over the clothes, but they can't do anything about it.

The Best Buy manager finally finds Chris' credit card.

Bren and Craig return with the clothes and Tana is not pleased. The guys were in Brooklyn for 5-1/2 hours and the clothes are crap. She says she can either cry or move on, she decides to move on. Craig is covering some of the paint with white-out.

Angie is working on the presentation, Alex is working with their clothes. Suddenly they look at the clock and it's 2:25 and their presentation is at 3pm. They don't know where their models are and they aren't dressed. Chris arrives at 2:30 (he spent all day trying to retrieve the credit card!) and Angie and Alex are rushing the models to change. They leave at 2:40pm, it turns 3pm while they are still in the taxi.

"RE: Second segment"
Posted by ARnutz on 04-07-05 at 09:24 PM
Unbeleivable!


Net Worth is so screwed and if the entire project sucks and they do not make their presentation, then the whole fiasco falls on Alex's shoulders as the PM!


In Trump's lesson he said, "Do not be a failure". They are doomed! It's 3 pm and they are still in the cabs!

"RE: Second segment"
Posted by seahorse on 04-07-05 at 09:25 PM
Total chaos
"RE: The Apprentice, Episode 11: East Coast Discussion"
Posted by seahorse on 04-07-05 at 09:27 PM
Magna seems to have made a great presentation.
"RE: The Apprentice, Episode 11: East Coast Discussion"
Posted by ARnutz on 04-07-05 at 09:32 PM
Magna was far superior!


They win a shopping spree at Burghdorf Goodman!

"RE: The Apprentice, Episode 11: East Coast Discussion"
Posted by seahorse on 04-07-05 at 09:28 PM
Angie is in shock, since the model forgot his jacket. She is almost speechless.
"RE: The Apprentice, Episode 11: East Coast Discussion"
Posted by seahorse on 04-07-05 at 09:32 PM
Her presentation was terrible. Obviously Magna wins.
"Third segment"
Posted by kathliam on 04-07-05 at 09:31 PM
It's 3pm and Magna is in front of the American Eagle showroom. Tana is making the presentation. Bren is describing the sweatshirt they designed to hold the game boy. They added additional pockets inside a jacket to hold the Ipod. They added some pockets for cell phones, etc. and describe some of the research they did. They are asked what they think the most popular form of technology is for their customer - their answer is cell phones.

NetWorth arrives at the presentation and Chris has forgotten the jean jacket. Angie is making the presentation and she is stumbling. They've called their line Beach Tech. Angie is frozen, lots of 'umms', reading from her notes, which are not organized either. She can't even get the names of the models correct. Their answer to most important technology for their customer is the Ipod.

AE folks think Magna's presentation better. Donald arrives. NetWorth told they embodied the brand, but presentation could have been more prepared and convincing, not enough ideas and creativity. They liked the fact Magna did research, didn't hesitate on what technology the kids like. They declare Magna the winner.

Reward is shopping spree at Bergdorf Goodman, we're not told how much money they get to spend.

"RE: Third segment"
Posted by tinybubs on 04-07-05 at 09:35 PM
Tana was very impressive both as PM and presenter.

She's become my favorite to win after tonight.

"RE: Third segment"
Posted by ARnutz on 04-07-05 at 09:45 PM
It's rare that another candidate will praise someone so highly, but Craig was doing just that about Tana. I agree.


Tana said she is the unbeaten PM at 2 & 0? Ummm... Tana, you are not the only one unbeaten,just the only one with 2 wins so far.

"RE: Third segment"
Posted by ARnutz on 04-07-05 at 09:35 PM
Net Worth sucked! Magna even dressed in what looked like the AE clothing.


Net Worth wore blazers!?

... and what the heck would I do with my laptop on my back zipped up in a freakin' hoodie????

Only a contortionist could reach it! ... and Net Worth called it Beach Tech???

"RE: Third segment"
Posted by kathliam on 04-07-05 at 09:45 PM
I thought the same thing! WTF? Do high school kids really take laptops to school? I don't know, 'cos I don't have any teenagers, but definitely would seem to me iPods and cellphones are more their style. Didn't have a big problem with the brand name, although they targeted the wrong electronics.
"RE: Third segment"
Posted by ARnutz on 04-07-05 at 09:47 PM
Yeah! I'd bring an I-pod, a game boy & a cell phone to the beach, but not a laptop!
"RE: Third segment"
Posted by seahorse on 04-07-05 at 09:36 PM
LAST EDITED ON 04-07-05 AT 09:38 PM (EST)

Either Chris or Angie has to be gone.

"RE: The Apprentice, Episode 11: East Coast Discussion"
Posted by Incognito9 on 04-07-05 at 09:36 PM
Net Worth has just been terrible.

Feelin so sorry for Alex, that he got kidnapped by those moronic Net Worthians last week.

"RE: The Apprentice, Episode 11: East Coast Discussion"
Posted by seahorse on 04-07-05 at 09:37 PM
LAST EDITED ON 04-07-05 AT 09:38 PM (EST)

Tana wins for a second time as PM.

"RE: The Apprentice, Episode 11: East Coast Discussion"
Posted by seahorse on 04-07-05 at 09:40 PM
Angie admits she screwed up the presentation.
"RE: The Apprentice, Episode 11: East Coast Discussion"
Posted by seahorse on 04-07-05 at 09:43 PM
And Alex screwed up by losing the credit card for hours. Poor Alex.
"RE: The Apprentice, Episode 11: East Coast Discussion"
Posted by ARnutz on 04-07-05 at 09:56 PM
That was Chris.
"Fourth Segment"
Posted by kathliam on 04-07-05 at 09:43 PM
Magna is at Bergdorfs. They have been assigned personal shoppers and the store is opened just for them. Kendra is really getting into the shopping, she and Tana have armloads of clothes. Bren and Craig are trying on suits. They are drinking Dom Perignon after they finish their shopping. Craig compliments Tana's leadership abilities.

Chris, Angie and Alex are talking about one of them going home. Alex says they had a better project but the presentation was bad. Angie isn't going to take the fall for Alex's failure to get the team to the presentation on time or Chris's loss of the credit card.

They arrive in the Boardroom. Donald is wearing the PTOD (purple tie of death). Alex is asked what went wrong. Angie admits the presentation was bad. (Wow, Michelle, the faux George, looks young. Donald setting up a scenario to hire a woman?) Angie speaks of stress leading up to presentation, including forgetting the jacket and failing to leave on time. Caroline brings up fact Chris lost credit card. Alex admits he chose Angie to make presentation. Angie admits it was her fault not all the clothes made it to the presentation. Angie blames Chris for the loss since he spent 3 hours at Best Buy. Donald calls Angie and Chris losers for being in the boardroom 6 times in a row and sends them all out to talk to the executives.

"RE: Fourth Segment"
Posted by tinybubs on 04-07-05 at 09:45 PM
My prediction:

Firing for Angie.

Firing Squad for Chris.

"RE: Fourth Segment"
Posted by seahorse on 04-07-05 at 09:48 PM
Chris might be spared this week.
"RE: Fourth Segment"
Posted by seahorse on 04-07-05 at 09:51 PM
Alex says Chris was better than Angie this week. Angie is fired because she choked.
"Final Boardroom"
Posted by kathliam on 04-07-05 at 09:52 PM
Carolyn trying to figure out what Chris is actually doing, has a lot of excuses. Michelle thinks Angie really messed up with the presentation, it was a disaster compared to the other team.

Donald calls them back in to the boardroom. Donald asks Alex if they lost because Chris left behind the credit card. Alex says no, it was because of Angie's presentation. Angie starts to get defensive and Alex calmly tries to refute her charges. Michelle asks Chris if he could have helped if he was there, and he said probably yes. Carolyn asks Alex if Angie had enough time to prepare, and he said yes. Carolyn asks Alex what his job was, he said to oversee everything, Carolyn tells him things weren't taken care of. Donald is worried about Chris' temper and doesn't want to work with someone whose temper he must worry about. He tells Angie she's had problems and the big thing that worried him this task was that she choked when it came time to make the presentation.

Angie, you're fired.

If you're going to work for Donald you have to be able to handle the pressure (I bet!) and he doesn't like chokers (oh wait, this is a PG board).

"RE: Final Boardroom"
Posted by ARnutz on 04-07-05 at 09:53 PM
She really did mess up the presentation. She nade the most mistakes, but was it because Alex put too much on her?
"RE: Final Boardroom"
Posted by tinybubs on 04-07-05 at 09:56 PM
I agree. Angie did the majority of the task. Chris loses the credit card and Alex disappears. You can't screw up if you don't do anything.
"RE: Final Boardroom"
Posted by tannl on 04-07-05 at 10:12 PM
>She really did mess up the
>presentation. She nade the most
>mistakes, but was it because
>Alex put too much on
>her?

Absolutely, Alex should have done the presentation himself. He had more free time than Angie.

"Next Time and Final Words"
Posted by kathliam on 04-07-05 at 09:56 PM
Buckle up for an Apprentice like no other. It's not just about the task, it's not just about the reward, it's about what happens after.

Looks like they are designing a sports car. Looks like the reward is shooting baskets with the Knicks. Looks like George loses it in the boardroom.


Angie's final words: the disorganization and how everything fell apart contributed to her not being ready for the presentation. She can't believe Trump fired her over Chris. Go Tana.

"RE: Next Time and Final Words"
Posted by ARnutz on 04-07-05 at 09:59 PM
They showed Bren, Chris & Alex in the back of a car together, guess Bren does move over to Net Worth.


I wonder what will happen after?

~ The cab gets a flat?

~ Someone flirts with Rona?

~ George has a heart attack?


Tune in next time...

"RE: Next Time and Final Words"
Posted by Reality432423 on 04-08-05 at 01:56 AM
I'm shocked Chris survived again, this guy is a screwball.

Also I beleive he was responsible to Networth's downfall. When he had to choose two people to go over to Magna.

He chooses Craig and Tana. Possibly the two strongest people in the game. I think that's when Networth tanked. They were the rock of the team (or foundation). Without them the personalities really started clashing.

That proved to me Chris is a terrible decision maker. Any responsibility he gets, he screws it up.

"RE: Next Time and Final Words"
Posted by Fishercat on 04-08-05 at 01:53 PM
He had four people he could choose: Angie, John, Craig, Tana. Sending John over at that time would have been a poor choice. He had one bad week (mini-golf task) and multiple positive performances (at least edits.) Sending Craig over was a completely logical decision. Of the four he could choose, Craig had done very little and he refused to be a leader, I would have sent him over in a second. That brings it down to Angie or Tana. I can see why he would take Angie. I don't remember Tana having a single "impact show" up to that point, meaning that I did not recognize her doing something that cinched a win for NW. Angie was the motherly figure, and specifically for Chris' sake, she has taken up for him at times. I don't think I would have done it differently.