she left the book on the island

• RE: I called in last night to vote Tammy off due to,Wacko Jacko, 01:25 PM, 04-25-06
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        • Tammy's notebook,tinkerer, 08:41 PM, 04-25-06
          • What Has Tammy Done That Is Positive?,tinkerer, 08:51 PM, 04-25-06
            • RE: What Has Tammy Done That Is Positive?,iltarion, 11:28 PM, 04-25-06
              • RE: What Has Tammy Done That Is Positive?,tinkerer, 09:38 PM, 04-26-06

I disagree. How did leaving the book on the dock effect the task in anyway? Now if she left the camera on the dock different story. Leaving the book on the dock effected nothing in the grand schemes of things. If the firing were based soully on performance on the task Aliie should've been fired but this firing had more to do with the aggregate of performance on all tasks. The majority won.

I didn't shed any tears for Andrea, but I would have fired Allie for getting off the boat with Tammy when Tammy went to look for the notebook. Allie's priority should have been to stay with the team and manage the project. If she had done that, Andrea would not have been in place to muck up the brochure without Allie's approval. Tammy could have phoned or faxed in any pertinent info from her notes that should have gone in the brochure. Allie should also have thought of what Lee thought of: Get up early and sell the brochures to the captive audience in line to sail to the island. Also, why did they regard Ellis Island and the ferry traffic as the only plausible locations for brochure sales? They could probably have gone to one large retirement apartment complex and found enough descendants of Ellis Island immigrants who would have bought all the brochures and at a higher price than tourists were willing to pay. I missed the first ten minutes of the show, so if selling only at Battery Park, on the ferry, or on the island was a requirement, I apologize in advance.

Doesn't a ferry leave like every 20 minutes or so? How far behind could they have possibly been?

That is why the whole missing the ferry was blown out of proportion. So what? On top of that all they were doing was going there to get pictures. On top of that both teams used 'stock' photos anyways.

I believe Allie admitted that she was gone for a couple of hours, so that is significant.

Has anyone mentioned whether or not Tammy ever found the notebook? Also, a brochure has to have text as well as pictures, so I think Tammy's notebook was important in making up the brochure.

As far as selling the book in retirement communities, I have no doubt that some sales would be made, but at a low volume. Do you think you would sell more yearbooks for a baseball team in a college campus or at the stadium? You'll sell some at the college, sure, but the stadium is the place where people are most interested.

To me, Tammy is the last "deadwood" on the show. She seems to be a weak player whom I cannot think has contributed anything to date.

Tarek has the same record, 0-1, that is true. But Tarek really does put himself out there into the task, even if he messes up sometimes, and this last time everyone agrees his contribution was wonderful.

So far, all I've seen is Tammy lose as Project Manager, (after following some of Allie's rockheaded ideas), and now lose the notebook which contained her sole contribution to the brochure. Those two, (Tammy and Allie) have sort of a mutual friendly destruction society-I help you lose, you help me lose.

At least Allie won the first task. As far as I can see, Tammy's talent seems to lie in somehow getting herself as being part of the the clique, without actually doing anything of visible merit.

Actually, after Tammy lost as PM, didn't Roxanne in the boardroom say that Tammy was the best PM to date? I believe so. Then Andrea confronted Roxanne about it, of course. So, actually, according to Roxanne, Tammy is one of the best leaders there, if not the best. Forgetting her notebook is a minor mistake that ANYONE could have made. Allie shouldn't have gotten off the boat, true. She should have sent Tammy alone for the notebook. However, that was not a crucial mistake. Getting up too late to beat Gold Rush out there was the fatal mistake.

LAST EDITED ON 04-26-06 AT 09:45 PM (EST)

Roxanne said it, but did she believe it?

There are strategic reasons she might have said it. For one thing, Adrea and Tammy seemed to be forming an alliance together, Roxanne already saw that Andrea has a tendency to go after people, and she might have wanted to throw a monkey wrench into that little alliance.

Roxanne can say what she pleases about Tammy being a great Project Manager in the cereal box task, but the fact remains

A. The core concept, (from father to daughter), was poor no matter how well executed.

B. The concept was not well exeuted. Trump thought the "father" was her boyfriend, (I believe Brent recommended they "grey up" the father's photo, but of course we can't listen to him, can we? Oh no).

C. Andrea's basic design was ugly and confusing.

D. Sean was selected to do a presentation, which turned out embarrassing for all concerned. It was only a 10 minute presentation-couldn't Tammy have listened to it first?

Precisely how this amounts to great Project Managing needs to be explained. I can only guess that Roxanne was trying to save Tammy and shift the blame over the graphics queen Andrea, but it never happened.

Then there is the small matter that, outside that debacle, Tammy has not been shown to be contributing significantly in any task before or since her stint as Project Manager. She might have been reasonably competent, though unremarkable, in some other tasks, but she hasn't made any significant contributions.

Given these facts, plus the fact that the ONLY reason she was on that island that day was to put things into the notebook, and sure looks like Tammy oscillates between mediocre and just plain lousy.