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"Elmo?!?!?!??"

Posted by Snidget on 11-12-12 at 05:04 PM
And all this time you'd think it would have been Bert or Ernie.

He says it was only after the guy was a consenting adult, but we will see.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2012/11/12/sesame-street-elmo-puppeteer-takes-leave-underage-sex-charges/1699321/


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"RE: Elmo?!?!?!??"
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 11-12-12 at 05:42 PM
Gives a new meaning to "Tickle Me Elmo"...

"RE: Elmo?!?!?!??"
Posted by byoffer on 11-12-12 at 06:49 PM
I guess "Big Bird" is still safe?

"Poor GOP."
Posted by Estee on 11-12-12 at 06:26 PM
If this story had broken two weeks earlier...

"RE: Poor GOP."
Posted by Round Robin on 11-13-12 at 01:31 AM
Wouldn't have mattered much.

"RE: Elmo?!?!?!??"
Posted by kidflash212 on 11-15-12 at 11:47 AM
The supposed "victim" turns out to have a past history:

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv-movies/elmo-accuser-recanted-troubled-article-1.1202365



"RE: Elmo?!?!?!??"
Posted by suzzee on 11-15-12 at 01:10 PM
Anyone want to speculate on this Christmas's version of Elmo?



Thanks Tribey <3.



"TMZ claims payoff."
Posted by Estee on 11-18-12 at 04:00 PM
Allegedly $125,000 to sign the papers and go away. They say the signature was made under pressure with the signer still saying he was underage when it began.

There's a very dark Sandusky joke in here somewhere.


"Adios Kevin Clash"
Posted by AyaK on 11-21-12 at 11:31 AM
After a second accuser filed his own lawsuit alleging that he had an affair with Kevin Clash that started when he was 15, Clash resigned from the Sesame Workshop cast. But Elmo will still be there, because Sesame Workshop owns all of the Muppets that have been used on Sesame Street except for Kermit.

"RE: Adios Kevin Clash"
Posted by Bebo on 11-21-12 at 12:23 PM
A lawyer has also claimed two other possible young men and brought up the possibility of a lawsuit. It's good for everyone that he's breaking off from Sesame Street so quickly.



"RE: Adios Kevin Clash"
Posted by Estee on 11-21-12 at 02:35 PM
On the one hand, where there's a single alleged payoff, there will be people lining up to get the next. On the other, this is a lot of stepping forward in a very short time, and that is going to trigger echoes. I won't call guilt yet, but this is starting to look ultra-bad.

And yet -- I keep thinking about how much worse this could have been. Skew things a few years younger still and then consider the sheer amount of access...


"RE: Adios Kevin Clash"
Posted by Snidget on 11-21-12 at 03:19 PM
*nods*

These things never seem to come individually, in either direction (those abusing or those trying to scam money when they smell blood in the water).

Yep, could be worse given who he could likely get access to.


"RE: Adios Kevin Clash"
Posted by Estee on 11-21-12 at 04:21 PM
Working parental definition of hell: there's a character whom just about every little kid instinctively trusts, they transfer that feeling to the person who provides that character's voice, and that actor is a pedophile who has kids lining up to reach him. Gah. That's not a Very Special SVU Episode, that's a Dante circle unto itself.


"RE: Adios Kevin Clash"
Posted by AyaK on 11-21-12 at 04:04 PM
LAST EDITED ON 11-21-12 AT 04:05 PM (EST)

>On the one hand, where there's a single alleged payoff, there
>will be people lining up to get the next.

The Michael Jackson case was a prime example of that. Michael may well have been a predator, but the second case was so weak that it only got to trial because the legal system didn't want to look like "money can buy your way out of everything".

And see the allegations in Syracuse against basketball assistant Bernie Fine, which totally blew up -- except for the Davis allegations, which happened so long ago that there is no evidence one way or the other -- which, in turn, makes it difficult to believe the Davis allegations, because such cases rarely occur in isolation. I'm looking forward to the Fines' libel suit against ESPN.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/8610174/feds-drop-case-ex-syracuse-orange-coach-bernie-fine

>On the other, this is a lot of stepping forward
>in a very short time, and that is going to
>trigger echoes. I won't call guilt yet, but this
>is starting to look ultra-bad.

Yeah, the grouping of charges creates the appearance of a real pattern of statutory rape. But it's too early to know.


"RE: Elmo?!?!?!??"
Posted by dabo on 11-21-12 at 07:46 PM


"Meanwhile...."
Posted by Starshine on 11-22-12 at 10:12 AM
Over in the UK - Jimmy Saville

Actually I seem to remember that there were unsavoury rumours about him whilst I was at school over 30 years ago.

First ever person to use two turntables, so the first ever DJ, but the anguished cries are because he did so much for charity, raised so many millions, helped so many children... And it all starts to feel horrible again.


"RE: Meanwhile...."
Posted by AyaK on 11-29-12 at 10:15 AM
The Jimmy Saville stories are particularly nasty.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/9646501/Jimmy-Savile-People-suspected.-Nobody-talked.-Why.html

For decades Savile bragged openly about behaviour with young girls which ranged from the inappropriate to the criminal, while simultaneously denying that he was a paedophile. The fact that no one in authority stopped him can be attributed to many factors, but they can’t say they weren’t warned. In Savile’s 1976 autobiography, Love is an Uphill Thing, parents loom large as a potentially bothersome force to be tricked or evaded. In one anecdote, Savile graphically described being among a group of naked young girls in his caravan – “we all resembled some great human octopus” – when the parents of one girl came inconveniently knocking on the door. On another occasion, two mothers arrived, furiously banging on the door of his flat, after their daughters had spent the night there with Savile and his bodyguard. Savile was out, but his bodyguard hid while the girls apparently calmed their mothers. The DJ wrote: “I train my men well and, to date, we have not been found out. Which, after all, is the 11th commandment, is it not?” And yet, Savile felt confident enough to hint at his sexual activities himself without apparent concern. His publishers evidently saw nothing untoward, nor did fans who bought the book.

My thought is that he got away with it for as long as he did because he targeted girls, not boys. See Roman Polanski.


"Third Accuser"
Posted by Snidget on 11-29-12 at 08:43 AM
And so it goes.

Similar story to #2, but not seeking monetary damages. The lawsuit is to support the others so he says.

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2012-11-27/entertainment/bs-ae-elmo-third-sexual-accuser-20121127_1_third-accuser-second-accuser-elmo