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"The greatest indictment of Bush"
Posted by shakes the clown on 10-07-04 at 01:31 AM
I just realized this a couple of weeks ago.....that in the entire time Bush has held the office of president I have never once referred to him as being the president, nor have I EVER called him President Bush (present sentence excluded smart@sses).

Its always just Bush, or George Bush, but never Prez Bush.


To me, he's not the president...and it has nothing to do with him stealing the election. I just can't, in my mind, accept him as being a president of anything, let alone the US. It just doesn't fit. He's too much of a fvcking moron for my mind to draw the bridge between complete idiot and president. Plus, I have absolutely no respect for the guy which also makes it difficult to accept him as the president.

He's like a charicature of a human being, something you would expect to see fictionalized on The Simpsons.

I'm glad I don't travel outside the US very often cause I would be absolutely embarassed to be an American with that guy as our representative. In fact, if I met anyone from another country the first thing I would say is that I'm American, but I hate Bush.

Throughout history it has always been said that certain amounts of casualties are acceptable in order to obtain a greater good. In that spirit I have no trouble admitting that I hope and pray (figure of speech) everyday when I open the newspaper that there will be countless dead American soldiers littering the front pages cause I know that every dead US soldier will only serve to make Bush look worse and that in turn may lead to him not being in charge anymore.....and that is easily worth sacrificing American lives in my opinion.

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"President Shakes..."
Posted by LozengeofLove on 10-07-04 at 01:45 AM
sounds good to me.


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"RE: The greatest indictment of Bush"
Posted by wandacal on 10-07-04 at 01:58 AM
He's like a charicature of a human being, something you would expect to see fictionalized on The Simpsons.

You comparing President Bush to Ned Flanders?


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"RE: The greatest indictment of Bush"
Posted by PagongRatEater on 10-07-04 at 02:00 AM
Wanda, I am SHOCKED.

You know better than to feed the clown.


BTW, did you see they cancelled Last Comic before the last episode? There's a travesty. Even Love Cruise aired in its entirety.


"Now you've done it!"
Posted by wandacal on 10-07-04 at 02:33 AM
Even Love Cruise aired in its entirety.

You made me short out my monitor!


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"RE: The greatest indictment of Bush"
Posted by desert_rhino on 10-07-04 at 02:56 AM
I'm thinking more like Montgomery Burns.
"RE: The greatest indictment of Bush"
Posted by wandacal on 10-07-04 at 03:08 AM
I KNEW you would JV!!

<rubs hands together> Exxxxxxxcellent...



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Not to sound like a TOTAL Simpsons fanatic, (*waves to MiamiCatt and JSlice*), but did you know that Burn's character was based on Charles Foster Kane? Thus the "C." in C. Montegomerey Burns.

"RE: The greatest indictment of Bush"
Posted by J Slice on 10-07-04 at 09:44 AM
Duh. That's why there was the Bobo episode. Natch

Of course, nothing tops The Critic in its ultimate reference to Citizen Kane...


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"RE: The greatest indictment of Bush"
Posted by miamicatt on 10-07-04 at 03:55 PM
"His friends all call him Monty but to yooooou it's Miiiiiiiister Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurns!"

Mmmmmmmmmm Mrs. Paul's fish sticks....they're even good raw.


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"RE: The greatest indictment of Bush"
Posted by PagongRatEater on 10-07-04 at 04:25 PM
* stalk *


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"RE: The greatest indictment of Bush"
Posted by HobbsofMI on 10-07-04 at 02:11 AM
Shakes, please don't be like Johnny Dep or Alex Baldwin and promise to leave the country if Bush wins. What would the USA be without the spinning clown.....


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"RE: The greatest indictment of Bush"
Posted by dabo on 10-07-04 at 02:31 AM
Shakes is probably on Can'tada's watch list anyway.

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"RE: The greatest indictment of Bush"
Posted by wandacal on 10-07-04 at 02:40 AM
LAST EDITED ON 10-07-04 AT 02:42 AM (EST)

SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!

Very cool Cat Stevens reference immediately following this post!



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"RE: The greatest indictment of Bush"
Posted by seahorse on 10-07-04 at 02:29 AM
> In fact, if I
>met anyone from another country
>the first thing I would
>say is that I'm American,
>but I hate Bush.

It's a good think you do mot sell CDs for a living.

"RE: The greatest indictment of Bush"
Posted by Drive My Car on 10-07-04 at 07:35 AM
If this is the Cat Stevens reference, I believe he's British.
"RE: The greatest indictment of Bush"
Posted by Lisapooh on 10-07-04 at 09:08 AM
I think it's a Dixie Chick reference.

I cannot wait for this effing election to be over. Of course we'll have to endure weeks of gloating threads from one side and sour grapes threads from the other.

yee.haw.

"RE: The greatest indictment of Bush"
Posted by seahorse on 10-07-04 at 09:12 AM
BINGO

"RE: The greatest indictment of Bush"
Posted by anotherkim on 10-07-04 at 09:15 AM
I'm gloating in advance:


"RE: The greatest indictment of Bush"
Posted by seahorse on 10-07-04 at 09:54 AM
Is that gloating for the AK -DW ticket or what?

"RE: The greatest indictment of Bush"
Posted by anotherkim on 10-07-04 at 09:56 AM
Our ad guy is a genius. The blimp pilot is pretty hot, too.


"RE: The greatest indictment of Bush"
Posted by seahorse on 10-07-04 at 09:55 AM
About 1/3 of this board will take a leave of absense on November 3.

Just saying.

"RE: The greatest indictment of Bush"
Posted by Drive My Car on 10-07-04 at 09:56 AM
Why is that?

( Oh wait! It's because everyone will be playing RollerCoasterTycoon 3 all day. I'm thinking of taking the day off work on the 3rd, for just that reason)

"RE: The greatest indictment of Bush"
Posted by seahorse on 10-07-04 at 10:11 AM
Due to the weeks of gloating threads from one side and sour grapes threads from the other.

"RE: The greatest indictment of Bush"
Posted by Drive My Car on 10-07-04 at 09:59 AM
But we've been over and over this, the Dixie Chicks cds are still selling.
"RE: The greatest indictment of Bush"
Posted by nailbone on 10-07-04 at 10:02 AM
LAST EDITED ON 10-07-04 AT 10:03 AM (EST)


See, this is how I felt during most of the 90's when Clinton was President.


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That bottom paragraph is WAY over the line, IMO
"RE: The greatest indictment of Bush"
Posted by FesterFan1 on 10-07-04 at 10:08 AM
LAST EDITED ON 10-07-04 AT 10:08 AM (EST)

Dood, there is no line. The line is dead. Shakes killed it years ago and buried it in the back yard.

Fester
We now return you to less existential commentary.

"RE: The greatest indictment of Bush"
Posted by nailbone on 10-07-04 at 10:29 AM
This is true.


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"So..."
Posted by HistoryDetective on 10-07-04 at 10:15 AM
So, Shakes, are you saying that you finally got over your indecision from the other day and decided to press PLAY for the Fahrenheit 9/11 DVD...?

"RE: The greatest indictment of Bush"
Posted by emydi on 10-07-04 at 11:01 AM
I don't call him pres bush too often either, but I have to shakespin my head thinking about the fact that you don't vote...


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although Illinois is a blue state, so it doesn't matter too much

"voting = scam"
Posted by shakes the clown on 10-07-04 at 01:21 PM
>I don't call him pres bush
>too often either, but I
>have to shakespin my head
>thinking about the fact that
>you don't vote...
>


....voting has replaced Sports and religion as the opiate of the masses, at least in this country. Its a total scam and accomplishes nothing.


"RE: voting = scam"
Posted by emydi on 10-07-04 at 03:23 PM
Scam, how so? and how else are we supposed to do it??


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after 2000 i can see how so, but I think you mean it in some other way...

"RE: voting = scam"
Posted by shakes the clown on 10-07-04 at 04:40 PM
>Scam, how so? and how else
>are we supposed to do
>it??
>
>>=2 font face = "arial"]after
>2000 i can see how
>so, but I think you
>mean it in some other
>way...
>


...because I like you Amy I'm gonna actually attempt to explain it which normally I wouldn't even bother to do. I'm going to do this briefly cause I don't expect anyone to understand it.

When this country was founded back in 17whatever we just came off a monarchy where we were essentially ruled by one person. Keeping that in mind, this country was originally created to combat the effects of a monarchy. Therefore, several rules and/or features were put into place in order to insure that we would never again be subject to the "rule of one". Included in those were term limits on elected officials, checks and balances on policy and law making and stuff of that sort.

I believe that the MAIN purpose of the forfathers when building this nation and the constitution was to make it nearly impossible for one person to have too much power. A very noble idea, however what the effect has been is that now it is impossible for ANYBODY to make a difference or get anything accomplished. With so many checks and balances and so much red tape coupled with term limits this country essentially runs itself regardless of who is in office.

Therefore I don't think it matters who you vote for, the machine runs itself.

And part of that machinery is keeping the populus sedated and the mechanism for this is to convince people that their voice actually matters even though it clearly doesn't.


Think about it, a President is in office for 4 years. He spends 6 months just getting acclimated, and then he spends the last 2 years trying to get re-elected, leaving him with essentially 1 1/2 years to actually work at his job. What can really get accomplished in a year and a half given the many hoops the system has designed for you to jump through in order to get anything accomplished???


That's all I'm gonna say about that...there's much more to it but that is basically the abridged version.

And also, everyone talks about a monarchy as if it is inherently a bad thing. I disagree. Sure, there have been some awful tyrants in history, but there have also been some wonderful kings, people like Solomon. I fully agree with Aristotle's idea of a philosopher/king as being the ideal leader.


Also, as an aside, I have a serious problem with ANYONE who would want to be President. IMO, only a complete idiot/egomaniac would want to be Prez, so in true Catch22 fashion, I don't want anyone to be president who actually wants to be president...Ithink that in itself is a recipe for disaster.

"RE: voting = scam"
Posted by emydi on 10-07-04 at 04:48 PM
Thanks, Michael, I appreciate you answering me.


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I'm still voting, I like to drool

"RE: voting = scam"
Posted by nailbone on 10-07-04 at 04:55 PM
Holy carp!! I agree with the clown!!

You did forget to add that once a Prez is elected for a second term, he becomes a lame duck who either can't do anything because he has no leverage, or won't do anything because he's not trying to get re-elected. In the second term, he's mainly trying to get his VP (or whomever is selected by the party heads to succeed him).


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"RE: voting = scam"
Posted by Spidey on 10-07-04 at 05:01 PM
So, wouldn't that advocate a change of the current administration? I mean, at least the "other guy" will get 1 1/2 years of work in, no?

"RE: voting = scam"
Posted by nailbone on 10-07-04 at 05:09 PM
Eh, it wouldn't really matter that much either way.

Actually, I think Bush, as a lame duck, would fall into a third category of trying very hard in the second term to prove that he wasn't wrong in the first term.


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"RE: voting = scam"
Posted by Spidey on 10-07-04 at 05:19 PM
trying very hard in the second term to prove that he wasn't wrong in the first term.

I would almost want to see that, but only 'cuz I always wondered if trying to do the impossible would literally make someone's head explode.


Just funnin' with ya, Tex.

"RE: voting = scam"
Posted by nailbone on 10-07-04 at 05:28 PM
Now that would be something cool to see!!


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"I, therefore, announce my ascension to the throne"
Posted by SurvivaBear on 10-07-04 at 05:15 PM
Long live King Barry, the Philosopher King. My coronation will be a week from Tuesday. I will tear down that lousy Whitehouse and a proper palace will be biult. In the manner of Solomon, I must begin to take on more wives/concubines, and I will start with the OT royalty. Queen Buggy, Princess Pooh, L8y in waiting, Nookie, Wheezy, and the rest of the crew, prepare to move to DC, which shall hereafter be called the District of Blowhemia!

A PM Halloween creation! Beware the Bear! BOO!

"RE: voting = scam"
Posted by Skiver on 10-07-04 at 05:34 PM
>>Therefore I don't think it matters who you vote for, the machine runs itself.

Come on. Do you think we'd be in Iraq if Bush hadn't been elected? Do you think the US would have an annual budget deficit of close to $500B? Do you think you'd be ashamed to identify yourself as an American when you're abroad if Bush and his neo-con chickenhawks hadn't pissed off the world every chance they got?

Competence and intelligence of the President matters. Although I agree with your sentiments about Bush, the idea that replacing him won't make a difference just has no logic behind it whatsoever.



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"The answer to all your questions is"
Posted by SurvivaBear on 10-07-04 at 05:43 PM
yes, Definitely!
"Just so I am clear"
Posted by I_Got_Nutn on 10-07-04 at 06:12 PM
You daily hope and whatever that I (members of the Armed Forces) will be killed to facilitate an administration change that you freely admit will make no difference?

Yeah, It's a JSlice
My 8-year old asked me why anyone would want to be president. She had to go look up deluded.

"RE: voting = scam"
Posted by PagongRatEater on 10-07-04 at 03:47 PM
Here's your crown, you are the undisputed King of all the cynics. We might as well call up England and ask if we could have good old George II back in charge.

On second thought, I actually LIKE the fact that I get to vote for my leaders and I know that if I didn't vote it wouldn't matter....but if a bunch of "I"'s decided not to vote, it does make a difference.

Having the actual RIGHT to vote, actually makes all the difference in the world. It keeps polticians from pissing off so many people so much that they lose their jobs. It's how we all hold elected officials accountable, even if it IS en masse.



"Survey"
Posted by J I M B O on 10-07-04 at 03:40 PM
The clown (Shakes, not Dubya) suffers from:

A. Poor upbringing
B. Guilty conscience requiring misplaced anger toward others
C. Insecurity
D. Lack of faith in any sort of higher power
E. All of the above


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Not that I think any of these...just taking a survey here. Hoping soldiers die? Somethin's not hooked up right IMO.

"RE: Survey"
Posted by PagongRatEater on 10-07-04 at 03:48 PM
I'll go with E, since "angry contrarian who likes attention" wasn't a choice.



"RE: Survey"
Posted by J I M B O on 10-07-04 at 03:51 PM
I was going more for the 'source'. The contrarion who likes attention part still must be rooted in something, dontcha think?

"RE: Survey"
Posted by anotherkim on 10-07-04 at 04:24 PM
LAST EDITED ON 10-07-04 AT 04:24 PM (EST)


I'm thinking that you are really teetering on the edge, if not stepping right over, the line about bashing other posters. Which of these is not supposed to be an insult and generate negative comments about Shakes?

If you don't like what he has to say on those subjects, then don't read it or argue back. Making polls like this one are just asking for trouble.


even if you say you don't think those things, you've put them out there with your name attached and are asking for a fight.

"RE: Survey"
Posted by HistoryDetective on 10-07-04 at 04:30 PM
Huh? I thought that J I M B O was complimenting Shakes. It seemed as though he was emulating Shakes like a child tries to copy a father, like J I M B O was hoping to be adopted by Shakes, be re-named Shakes Jr., and hop up on the big daddy clown's lap...

"We all want to be"
Posted by SurvivaBear on 10-07-04 at 04:33 PM
re-named Shakes Jr. But stay away from the clown's lap!
"RE: Survey"
Posted by wandacal on 10-07-04 at 04:37 PM
big daddy clown

Puff Daddy changed his name AGAIN?

Jeez! It's getting harder and harder to keep up with that guy...


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*pulls out pencil to make yet ANOTHER change in the rolodex*

"RE: Survey"
Posted by J I M B O on 10-07-04 at 04:39 PM
I know it is Kimbo, but only to prove a point. Shakes gets a pass cuz he's Shakes? He knows how to rile people up 'within' the guidelines. His post about falling in line and drooling on the person in front of you is being applied generally to folks on OT...and THAT isn't a personal insult?

He knows I'm just emulating him. Highest form of flattery, right?


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Must admit, it's rather exhilerating out here on the edge...

"RE: Survey"
Posted by seahorse on 10-07-04 at 05:03 PM
You are 100% right JIMBO, nobody could or should be chastised by the mods for walking on a jagged edge relative to a post in response to a shakes post.

"RE: Survey"
Posted by anotherkim on 10-07-04 at 07:10 PM
I spetn entirely too much time with middle-schoolers today. Ignore me. Please.

Miscellaneous Ramblings
--I am in capable of rational thought at this point.

"RE: Survey"
Posted by J I M B O on 10-07-04 at 07:14 PM
I spetn entirely too much time with middle-schoolers today.

You callin me fat?

It's all good Kimbo. I probably shouldn't have gotten my panties in a bunch like that in the first place.

"RE: Survey"
Posted by anotherkim on 10-07-04 at 07:21 PM
No, I think I called myself a b!tch. But you can be fat if you like. THat makes me feel better.


I'm about to go drown my sorrows in Kristy Kreme

"RE: Survey"
Posted by wandacal on 10-07-04 at 07:24 PM
Extra Kristy.


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Will rub AKim's feet using only my mind powers.

"RE: Survey"
Posted by SherpaDave on 10-07-04 at 07:24 PM
I'm about to go drown my sorrows in Kristy Kreme

Now that is one porn star name I could get behind. Get it? Behind. Oh, I kill me.


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"hey Kim...."
Posted by shakes the clown on 10-07-04 at 04:58 PM
...although I always appreciate the way you stick up for me..all the cool kids used to pick on me when I was a kid {/channeling Rupert}....where was I? Oh yeah, thanks, but as part of my running contract here at SB.com bashing me personally is always allowed since I basically do it all the time. It's only fair that if I am gonna put myself out there others should be allowed to call me on it.

I've never had a problem with that...since, after all, I am far and away the biggest DAW here and therfore love any attention I can get, positive or negative, but especially negative.

I think the biggest reason why I have always been so popular (here and in real life) is that even though I am a huge smart@ss jerk I can take it even better than I dish it out, and people have to respect that.


"You know something?"
Posted by wandacal on 10-07-04 at 05:03 PM
That was almost kind of warm and cuddly.

You might want to watch that next time.


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I've always respected clowns - it's their big shoes that scare me....

"RE: You know something?"
Posted by clemsonbeav on 10-07-04 at 05:04 PM
LAST EDITED ON 10-07-04 AT 05:04 PM (EST)


Nevermind...

"RE: hey Kim...."
Posted by nailbone on 10-07-04 at 05:06 PM
LAST EDITED ON 10-07-04 AT 05:06 PM (EST)

Shut up, you cynical spinnin' headed moron!! If you had even half a brain, you'd realize that almost everything you say is considered by the rest of us as merely the ramblings of a sad, bitter clown desperate for any attention he can get!

Whew, that was cleansing!


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And said entirely in jest.

"RE: hey Kim...."
Posted by Spidey on 10-07-04 at 05:06 PM
{/channeling Rupert}....


FTR, you may not have been as popular a reality show character as ole Rupie, but you were/are waaay more interesting and entertaining.



Always lvoes me some Shakes. (And I get "it" too, usually)

"RE: Survey"
Posted by shakes the clown on 10-07-04 at 04:25 PM
You forgot one...

(F) Frustration from quite possibly being the one person in the whole world who actually gets "it".


Trust me, being this smart is a curse rather than a blessing...I wish I could just fall in line and drool incoherently on the person in front of me like the rest of you...it would make life so much easier.


"I get "it" all the time!"
Posted by SurvivaBear on 10-07-04 at 04:29 PM
Oh, you're just saying your smarter than the rest of us. Never mind!

Did you put this kind of stuff in you LC application?!

"RE: Survey"
Posted by emydi on 10-07-04 at 04:31 PM
i know what you mean by getting "it" (I think??--but I'm not quite as frustrated as you are )but what else are we supposed to do?



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I have drool on me, where???

"Got this in an e-mail..."
Posted by clemsonbeav on 10-07-04 at 04:57 PM
From a list of Snappy Answers:

>>Snappy Answer #5
>>
>>A college teacher reminds her class of tomorrow's final exam. "Now class,
>>I won't tolerate any excuses for your not being here tomorrow. I might
>>consider a nuclear attack or a serious personal injury or illness, or a
>>death in your immediate family but that's it, no other excuses
>>whatsoever!" A smart-@ss guy in the back of the room raised his hand and
>>asks, "What would you say if tomorrow I said I was suffering from complete
>>and utter sexual exhaustion?" The entire class does its best to stifle
>>their laughter and snickering. When silence is restored, the teacher
>>smiles sympathetically at the student, shakes her head, and sweetly says,
>>"Well, I guess you'd have to write the exam with your other hand."


"RE: Survey"
Posted by J I M B O on 10-07-04 at 04:41 PM
>Trust me, being this smart is
>a curse rather than a
>blessing...

I don't just trust you, I sympathize.

"RE: Survey"
Posted by PagongRatEater on 10-07-04 at 04:48 PM
Wisdom begins with the acceptance of how very little you do know.



"RE: Survey"
Posted by J I M B O on 10-07-04 at 04:54 PM
I respectfully disagree. The Torah says that the fear of God is the beginning of Wisdom.

"RE: Survey"
Posted by PagongRatEater on 10-07-04 at 04:57 PM
Isn't touting your own omniscience in direct contradiction to acknowledging God as the source of all wisdom?


I went Eastern Philosophy on that one, but I think the point stands. It's important to know how very little you do know.


"omniscience?"
Posted by J I M B O on 10-07-04 at 05:10 PM
Maybe Shakes was claiming to know all Truth, but I was only admitting to being cursed with brains. Having a high IQ doesn't directly related to knowledge (rain man for example). There are many 'geniuses' who are lazy and unsuccessful, and also many people who work hard with what they have to get somewhere. So some traits I'd say are always 'blessings'--such as a good work ethic, self-discipline--while others can be disguised 'curses'.

Take your post for example. While I don't think I'm omni-anything, being intellectual has probably hindered me from truly gaining Wisdom. Faith, fear of God, simply 'being in the moment' are not things that come easily to me. Where I 'should' get to a point in my faith similar to how a child trusts his/her parents...my head gets in the way.

See the curse?


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I could go on in many other areas of how it is a curse, but will spare any unfortunate soul for now.

"RE: Survey"
Posted by Spidey on 10-07-04 at 04:56 PM
Smart people know a lot.

Real smart people also know there is a lot they don't know.

It's the stuff they don't know they don't know that usually causes the problems.



"RE: Survey"
Posted by PagongRatEater on 10-07-04 at 04:58 PM
True dat.



"totally agree.."
Posted by shakes the clown on 10-07-04 at 05:07 PM
>Smart people know a lot.
>
>Real smart people also know there
>is a lot they don't
>know.
>

...I've always said that my smartest trait is that I realize that I don't really know anything and because of that I am very open minded and willing to learn from others. I'm always willing to listen to all sides of every argument and to formulate my opinions only after I've heard from everyone. Also, I'm also willing to change my opinions or my ways if I learn something I didn't know before.

Not a lot of people can say that.


So, do you consider it a contradiction or just a vicious circle, or even a catch-22 to say that you are smarter than everyone else because you admit you are stupid. Keep in mind that "smart" is a relative term.


"RE: totally agree.."
Posted by wandacal on 10-07-04 at 05:11 PM
Whoa!

My three percent is spinning...


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"RE: totally agree.."
Posted by Spidey on 10-07-04 at 05:12 PM
So, do you consider it a contradiction or just a vicious circle, or even a catch-22 to say that you are smarter than everyone else because you admit you are stupid. Keep in mind that "smart" is a relative term.

I don't think it's a contradiction, vicious circle OR catch-22, rather a very good definition of "smart."


Of course smart is relative. I'm "smarter" than George Bush (either one) but could never presume to be a smart as you!

"vicious circle"
Posted by J I M B O on 10-07-04 at 05:16 PM
like a tall, slender girl who wishes she wasn't tall. every other woman may envy her, but only because they don't understand the downside. i can say i'm smart, in relative terms, based on tests, observations, etc. however, because smart = good thing, it can come accross as arrogant. then it surprises people to find out i would trade my brains in a heartbeat for a whole host of other traits.


and why anyone would boast of a natural capacity toward intellect is beyond me. not like it was earned or anything.

"RE: vicious circle"
Posted by Lasann on 10-07-04 at 05:47 PM
Hey Jimbo, I get it. I had a very "smart" brother who, quoting my sister, "Had no redeeming social skills". His intelligence always got in his way and came off as arrogant, however he was the most insecure needy person I've ever known. I loved him deeply for all his traits, admired his intelligence and always talked philosphy, religion with him. What he didn't know, unfortunately, was his downfall.

Shakes, in my "How did I get here" (OT) post I stated that I was both appalled and intrigued with with your posts in BB5. Still stands. Enjoy them while I'm "shakes head in disgust". Your summation of our "democracy" is right on target to me "intellectually", but emotionally I resist any realization that's that HOPELESS. Thanks god, or whomever, for my emotional side.

Sense??

"RE: vicious circle"
Posted by J I M B O on 10-07-04 at 07:01 PM
>Your summation of
>our "democracy" is right on
>target to me "intellectually", but
>emotionally I resist any realization
>that's that HOPELESS.
>
>Sense??

Sorry, but I don't understand this part.

But I'm happy to be 'right on target' nonetheless.

"RE: vicious circle"
Posted by wandacal on 10-07-04 at 07:18 PM
But I'm happy to be 'right on target' nonetheless.

Bound to happen sooner or later.


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"RE: vicious circle"
Posted by Lasann on 10-08-04 at 05:54 PM
OK
"RE: vicious circle"
Posted by desert_rhino on 10-08-04 at 06:04 PM
OK

Oh, THAT cleared everything up.

"RE: Survey"
Posted by Bucky Katt on 10-07-04 at 05:42 PM
The clown (Shakes, not Dubya) suffers from:

D. Lack of faith in any sort of higher power

I find the notion that one is suffering when they do not have an irrational belief in a higher power quite offensive.

"I have just discovered that this object I found is capable of scratching my back...I call it BACK SCRATCHER!"

"RE: Survey"
Posted by SurvivaBear on 10-07-04 at 05:46 PM
I find the fact that someone gets offended by some silly JIMBO survey offensive!
"RE: Survey"
Posted by Bucky Katt on 10-07-04 at 05:49 PM
What I find offensive is that my offense to a silly JIMBO survey was offensive to you!

"I have just discovered that this object I found is capable of scratching my back...I call it BACK SCRATCHER!"

"RE: Survey"
Posted by Lisapooh on 10-07-04 at 05:51 PM
what I find offensive is buggy.
"RE: Survey"
Posted by SurvivaBear on 10-07-04 at 05:53 PM
Well I find it offensive that you did not find Shakes "smashed cat" thresd offensive, when you are, after all, a cat . . . or is that a katt?
"RE: Survey"
Posted by J I M B O on 10-07-04 at 06:48 PM
That's why it's a FRIGGIN SURVEY. Not an editorial.

Cheer up. Jesus loves you.

"RE: Survey"
Posted by Bucky Katt on 10-07-04 at 07:14 PM
Oooh, you said friggin. Isn't that a sin?

"I have just discovered that this object I found is capable of scratching my back...I call it BACK SCRATCHER!"

If Jesus really loved me he would send me money. And a cute brunette. Or a blonde. Or both!

"RE: Survey"
Posted by SherpaDave on 10-07-04 at 07:15 PM
Hope not. One of my favorite online lit mags is FRiGG.


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"Swoop."
Posted by udg on 10-07-04 at 05:28 PM
That is all.


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"RE: Swoop."
Posted by nailbone on 10-07-04 at 05:42 PM
That? is how to swoop.


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"RE: Swoop."
Posted by Lasann on 10-07-04 at 05:51 PM
I've gathered that a swoop is the 69th, or so post. Please explain the concept for a newbie!
"RE: Swoop."
Posted by SurvivaBear on 10-07-04 at 05:55 PM
See this thresd for a decent explanation.
"RE: The greatest indictment of Bush"
Posted by SherpaDave on 10-07-04 at 06:24 PM
Doesn't this: In that spirit I have no trouble admitting that I hope and pray (figure of speech) everyday when I open the newspaper that there will be countless dead American soldiers littering the front pages cause I know that every dead US soldier will only serve to make Bush look worse and that in turn may lead to him not being in charge anymore.....and that is easily worth sacrificing American lives in my opinion.

contradict this: Therefore I don't think it matters who you vote for, the machine runs itself.


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"RE: The greatest indictment of Bush"
Posted by PagongRatEater on 10-07-04 at 06:52 PM

Be careful Sherps, you're starting to sound like the squirrel boy (see post 81 above).

And how DARE you bring logic into this thresd?!?




"RE: The greatest indictment of Bush"
Posted by SherpaDave on 10-07-04 at 06:55 PM
Oops. Didn't see that. Might could be we were posting about the same time, since he was 81 and I was 82.


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"RE: The greatest indictment of Bush"
Posted by J I M B O on 10-07-04 at 06:55 PM
You ever see/hear of the American Chopper series where they made a bike to commemorate the POW/MIA's? I know they've put them on DVD, but I'm not sure if they're rentable or not. VERY awesome bike though...

especially click on the tank and rear views:
http://www.hotrodbikes.com/features/0404hrb_occ/


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"RE: The greatest indictment of Bush"
Posted by SherpaDave on 10-07-04 at 06:56 PM
When I was working a lot with Viet Nam vets, I had all kinds of POW/MIA stuff. One of my buddies asked me for a sticker to put on his car. Why? Because he believed in supporting POW/MIA's? No. So cops wouldn't give him tickets.


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"RE: The greatest indictment of Bush"
Posted by J I M B O on 10-07-04 at 07:00 PM
So what, you think you can break the guidelines in here just cuz you put a POW icon in your sig pic?

If there are still any POWs alive, I would certainly give up their lives if it means Bush doesn't get re-elected. Oh no, wait, that's Shakes.

"RE: The greatest indictment of Bush"
Posted by SherpaDave on 10-07-04 at 07:10 PM
Huh?
"RE: The greatest indictment of Bush"
Posted by J I M B O on 10-07-04 at 07:18 PM
Huh what? I was insinuating that pow sticker is to speeding ticket as pow sig pic is to guideline abuse. Just jokin o'course.

Nothin to see here. Move along.

"RE: The greatest indictment of Bush"
Posted by wandacal on 10-07-04 at 07:12 PM
OMG!!!!! That happened to John the other day.

He called me from his cell phone on dinner break and still disgusted told me how some crankster loser tried to talk his way out of driving without a license plate, registration, insurance and suspended license by saying that his Father's body had finally been found in Vietnam and he had used all his money to fly over to claim the body. ("Don't you recognize me from the news Officer?") And to prove it, he had an MIA/POW calender card in his wallet and the bumper sticker where his license plate was supposed to be. After running his name for outstanding warrants John said, "Nice try buddy. It would have made more sense if you didn't have a bench warrant out for not reporting to your parole officer last week after being released from Folsom (State Prison) ONE MONTH AGO."

Unbelievable.


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"RE: The greatest indictment of Bush"
Posted by wandacal on 10-07-04 at 06:55 PM
LAST EDITED ON 10-07-04 AT 06:57 PM (EST)

IGotNutn pretty much said the same thing up in #31.

You don't really want to start making sense now, do you?

ETA: And I see Rateater beat me to it. WTG!!!



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Query: Why isn't the opposite of "sense", "NON-sense"?

"RE: The greatest indictment of Bush"
Posted by clemsonbeav on 10-07-04 at 07:24 PM
LAST EDITED ON 10-07-04 AT 07:24 PM (EST)

Swoop?

Swoop!

"RE: The greatest indictment of Bush"
Posted by sittem on 10-08-04 at 07:16 PM
There've been only three presidents in my lifetime that I've actually referred to as President ----. Eisenhower, Kennedy (both because I was just a kid probably) and Carter. Other than that there was LBJ, Tricky #####, The Actor, Bush, Bubba and W.

I'm not saying anything about their effectiveness or standing in history - just that the office itself doesn't demand a lot of respect any more.

Also - I was backpeddling my whole time in Africa regarding W - he isn't well liked there.

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