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"Jodi's "C""

Posted by Dayum Yankee on 04-07-06 at 09:46 AM
Jodi got a C in the border review and she's flipping out. She wants to run, she wants to leave. She was crying big time while Iyanla and Rhonda got her in the review but the minute her part was over, miracle, the tears dried right up. She is soooo good at going at the others but when she gets a piece of her own medicine, she can't handle it. Yep, a control freak all the way. Time for her to grow up and face herself and get vulnerable and face herself in a mirror.


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"RE: Jodi's "C""
Posted by Baxtera on 04-07-06 at 10:19 AM
I haven't been a huge fan of Jodi's but I also think her coaching hasn't been direct enough in typical IV fashion. We make masks, we want to paint them and break them. It's not working and IV gets frustrated and throws a tantrum instead of trying to think that maybe it's her methods not reaching the client. Not everybody can be reached by the voodoo priestess and the Universe. Some need more practical exerices.

"RE: Jodi's "C""
Posted by Ijustsharted on 04-07-06 at 10:21 AM
LAST EDITED ON 04-07-06 AT 10:22 AM (EST)

So Jodi got a C?


Geez! Where do ya'll live that you get to see the show so early? LOL It's 7:30 here.


"RE: Jodi's "C""
Posted by Juliejo on 04-07-06 at 10:34 AM
I havent seen the episode yet as it hasnt aired here but Toadie Jodi deserved the C. Maybe she will wake up and smell the coffee and start working on herself and leave the coaching to the coaches.

"RE: Jodi's "C""
Posted by Dayum Yankee on 04-07-06 at 02:12 PM
Sharted I'm in North Carolina and we get Starting Over at 9:00 AM EST so I'm probably one of the first to see the show.


"RE: Jodi's "C""
Posted by eire_heart74 on 04-07-06 at 11:58 AM
She kind of reminds me of TJ. TJ had to get that C before she dropped the wannabe life coach act and got down and dirty with the stuff she had to deal with. Jodi needed that C slapped in her face. It's for her own good. You have to get to bottom before you can climb up!


"RE: Jodi's "C""
Posted by Baxtera on 04-07-06 at 12:15 PM
The problem is very similiar to TJ in that she has a life coach who doesn't know how to reach her in a way she can here. She is getting meaningless assignments and has way too much time on her hands with nothing to do.

IV may have finished with the parrot Lisa, Lisa want a cracker? However, IV has no idea how to work with Jodi just like Rhonda had no idea what to do with TJ. Either Jodi will eventually give in and tell IV what she wants to hear like a good parrot or she'll leave.


"RE: Jodi's "C""
Posted by Lanna42 on 04-07-06 at 12:31 PM
Maybe I've missed something but I can't for the life of me figure out what Jodi is doing in the SO house.Her desire for help seems genuine but when it comes down to getting the point of the exercises she denies,resists,argues,dodges or whatever she can do to avoid changing.And she seems to use supporting the other HG's as an avoidance. She says she's afraid of what is under the mask.Why?What could be so terrible? That she's overweight?Common on, alot of people have that problem.That she hasn't formed any close attachments? I don't know.She has a false confidence that borders on arrogance.And then when she is criticized she folds like a house of cards.It feels like Jodi could be on the verge of "getting it" but darned if I know what that means.She seemed angry about the "C" but it's strange that she couldn't see it coming.

"RE: Jodi's "C""
Posted by Baxtera on 04-07-06 at 01:06 PM
That's why I think she's been left hanging out there by IV she doesn't even know what is it she's supposed to be getting and unlike the others she doesn't want to fake it to make it. Lisa was encouaging her to be like her today and basically just tell IV what she wants to hear fake a break through and graduate. I think Jodi does have something she wants to get through and is looking for someone to help her get there. Unfortunalty IV's voodoo just isn't working.

"RE: Jodi's "C""
Posted by Lanna42 on 04-07-06 at 02:18 PM
Yes,Baxtera but do you think she goes to find "IT" on THIS show?Hmmmmmmmm.....I think if I were Jodi I'd be looking for "IT" somewhere else.Take a plane,a train,some other less gross version of "The Flirtathon." Preferably as far away from Iyanla as possible.If I knew Iyanla were the captain of my destiny I'd have to jump ship or at least resort to piracy and make her walk the plank into the ocean of life.I don't know which one of them is more determined to AVOID the issue.

"RE: Jodi's "C""
Posted by Baxtera on 04-07-06 at 02:30 PM
I don't know why anyone actually goes on this show to find themselves. In season 1 before they discover Hollywood and were in Chicago I remember thinking it was an intriguing idea to have a place to go to get away from who you were to have a chance to discover who you could be. That all changed when they went to LA LA land and Priestess IV showed up.

IV's approach may work for some people but most seem to just parrot what she says grab their statue and flee into the night. I'm not sure exactly what Jodi's issue is but I doubt IV does either.


"RE: Jodi's "C""
Posted by Lanna42 on 04-07-06 at 02:46 PM

>IV's approach may work for some
>people but most seem to
>just parrot what she says
>grab their statue and flee
>into the night. I'm
>not sure exactly what Jodi's
>issue is but I doubt
>IV does either.

I don't want to steer this thread to far off course "But yes,the good old days in seasons 1,2.Back when the the idea was fresh and had that new car smell.Now we're lucky if we can keep trash out of the back seat and not break down on our way to the dump.Oh well....I'm pretty sure I DO know what Jodi's issue might be.Although I must admit she does confuse me and I don't think she's going to get a handle on it THERE.I think once she does get "IT" it'll be "Like everyone run for the hills." She's so over dramatic in everything she does.We'll see...........


"RE: Jodi's "C""
Posted by Madre on 04-07-06 at 03:09 PM
Jodi's "C:...stands for CONTROLfreak. Her true colors come out more and more. I agree with Iyanla's question to her, "Why are you taking up a seat in this house." (Or close to it.)

Her goal according to the BOR is to "fill the empty cup." I guess that explains her clingly, needy demeanor.

It seems like she doesn't know what she wants or needs. I have not found her to be authentic yet so I haven't been able to warm up to her or get in her corner so to speak.

We'll see what happens.


"RE: Jodi's "C""
Posted by steelmagnolya on 04-07-06 at 02:57 PM
It's not that Jodi is not being reached by Iyanla's exercises or that the exercises are not benefiting her. They have been great and Iyanla calling her out along the way will finally break her. Jodi is strong willed and when she is being challenged or called to the carpet on things she gets hot tempered and starts back tracking. The love letter assignment being one of them, contacting her dad, speaking about her mother's shortcomings, weighing herself and being non-commital.

I think she is resistant and comfortable living in a stuborn denial that she has it all together and that all she needs is a child to make it better. That was her stated reason for coming to the SO house. If you remember her first day in group, she spoke of everything in her life being rosey with the great job being he pride and joy - and the only thing wrong was being 40 with no child. When the LC's ate her lunch she was stunned and ran to Jill because she is a control freak and did not want to surrender. When the waterworks started she was and has been unable to turn them off. . A "C" on BOR is a blow to her ego. She is a tough cookie to crack and only Iyanla and her methods will get through to her.


"RE: Jodi's "C""
Posted by Baxtera on 04-07-06 at 03:40 PM
I doubt the voodoo priestess will get through to her either Jodi will decide she wants to leave and do so voluntarily or she'll become an IV parrot like Allison, Jill and Lisa and tell IV all she wants to hear in exactly the right tone of voice so IV believes they believe. You don't need to change for IV you just have to be able to tell her what she wants to hear. That's why I think her methods are ineffective as evidenced by her clients this season.

"RE: Jodi's "C""
Posted by steelmagnolya on 04-07-06 at 04:36 PM
LAST EDITED ON 04-07-06 AT 04:36 PM (EST)

Oh Baxtera! I normally agree with you (especially your feedback on Kim), but I really believe that these ladies are learning some deep life lessons from Iyanla. Granted, I feel Iyanla has gone off the radar some with her hokie pokiness, they eventually get the deeper meaning of what is at the core of their issues. I like that Iyanla makes them go through layers of their "only 1 issue" to see how they self sabotage, blame and stay comfortable in fear among other things. I think it takes strong measures for strong willed women like Jill, Jodi, Season 2's Kim and others. I don't agree with them telling Iyanla what she wants to hear. Iyanla is to wise to fall for that and I don't believe she needs that big of boost to her ego!


"RE: Jodi's "C""
Posted by Baxtera on 04-07-06 at 07:39 PM
>LAST EDITED ON 04-07-06
>AT 04:36 PM (EST)

>
>Oh Baxtera! I normally
>agree with you (especially your
>feedback on Kim), but I
>really believe that these ladies
>are learning some deep life
>lessons from Iyanla. Granted,
>I feel Iyanla has gone
>off the radar some with
>her hokie pokiness, they eventually
>get the deeper meaning of
>what is at the core
>of their issues. I like
>that Iyanla makes them go
>through layers of their "only
>1 issue" to see how
>they self sabotage, blame and
>stay comfortable in fear among
>other things. I think
>it takes strong measures for
>strong willed women like Jill,
>Jodi, Season 2's Kim and
>others. I don't agree
>with them telling Iyanla what
>she wants to hear.
>Iyanla is to wise to
>fall for that and I
>don't believe she needs that
>big of boost to her
>ego!

Well I look at Allison and Lisa as prime examples they really didn't learn anything or make changes but they did learn how to correctly give the answers to the final exam. It is more important to be able to question the exercises and examine where you are at and question why your doing something to fully value it than blindly follow as most of these guests do. As a result few really have any changes.



"RE: Jodi's "C""
Posted by MizJazmine on 04-07-06 at 04:42 PM
steelmagnolya...Exactly! Jodi intellectualizes, rationalizes, denies...in essence she LIES and she knows it. So does Iyanla. I think Iyanla deals with Jodi the way she should be dealt with and that "C" was right on target. Look at Jodi...she's already crumbling. Before Jodi could come out of her private sessions, put on a happy face, caretake everybody else, and front like she has it all together, but this time her cover was completely pulled. I'm sure she felt very naked and vulnerable - hence being under the covers, and she should 'cuz I think it's about time!

I would have liked for Jodi to have said at the board of review that she was afraid to take the mask off because she's afraid of being hurt, but that would have required her to come out from around that 10 inch thick steel wall she has...and...well...that just wasn't gonna happen...at least not today.

Jodi is a smart, intelligent, and savvy woman. It won't be pretty, but I do think Jodi will get there. I also think Iyanla is the perfect coach for Jodi.


"RE: Jodi's "C""
Posted by jmn28 on 04-07-06 at 06:32 PM
I can't stand Jodi, she is so fake! she puts on a "show" when she needs to. she needs to grow up. i think she deserved the c today in the board of review, maybe that will make her realize she needs to be real before she gets kicked out of the starting over house.

"RE: Jodi's "C""
Posted by tac_2 on 04-07-06 at 07:17 PM
When Jodi was asked what grade she should get, I could have sworn I saw her gulp when she said "B".

The grade was deserved, long overdue, and might just get her to spill the beans as to why she's really in the house. If not, I hope they don't drag out the drama and just oust her.

Jodi was whining about leaving with Jill, made a comment about how some of the other hg's would stay there forever if they could, and has consistently been in everyones business but her own (to put it mildly). She's had her chance, let someone in who really wants to work on themselves.


"RE: Jodi's "C""
Posted by JustBNMe on 04-07-06 at 08:20 PM
I think Jodi should be thanking IV for giving her a C as she sure hasn't earned it. She hasn't done anything in the house and hasn't changed at all. All I see her doing is screaming about things she has to do like getting weighed, changing her eating habits, having to exercise, remove the fake mask she hides behind etc. Oh yes and cuddle with the other HG and she does that creepily. I think she should get the royal boot because she does nothing and doesn't want to change anything either.

"RE: Jodi's "C""
Posted by Twinkles on 04-08-06 at 07:57 AM
I don't know what she's talking about with this mask concept. What is she supposedly hiding? What would she do differently if she were doing things right? I don't really don't get what her problem is. I was starting to get the gist that she was being fake because she was just using Iyanla's words over and over again and wouldn't say why she's in the house.

Is she just afraid to change how she does things with food & exercise and relationships so she keeps acting like everything is always right? Is that the point? I wanted to knock on the screen and ask them what the heck is this stupid mask they're talking about is.


"RE: Jodi's "C""
Posted by Baxtera on 04-08-06 at 10:17 AM
I wonder if sometimes the problem is the hg don't get it either and the ones who truly want to get it and not just fake it to make it do struggle with IV because she can't explain herself and if they won't fake it she loses her temper.

"RE: Jodi's "C""
Posted by Anne18 on 04-08-06 at 06:45 PM
Twinkles, I don't know what Jodi's issue is either - now AND before now! At first, I thought it was her father not loving her and that he left BUT I heard him on the phone with her and he kept telling her he loved her etc. So that's not it... Her weight issue? I don't think that is it either because she got on the scale but also didn't like what the nutritionist said to her ( I didn't watch that episode)... I just don't know what it could be unless she cried just to graduate sooner. lol

"RE: Jodi's "C""
Posted by zipitgood on 04-08-06 at 12:31 PM
Bye Jodi!! Dont let that door hit your big old butt on the way out!!!

"RE: Jodi's "C""
Posted by DedeV on 04-08-06 at 11:03 AM
I have seen several refer to the board of review and the border review. I find it interesting how we all hear things differently.

Ok, now back to Jodi, I think, as cruel as this may sound, it was nice to see her get knocked down a peg or two.


"RE: Jodi's "C""
Posted by SeasonedRefinement on 04-08-06 at 04:08 PM
Jodi doesn't want to play if she can't be in charge. She seems to honestly believe that she is smarter, quicker, and more qualified than everyone else.

I've watched her go from person to person, and with what appears to be true concern, she becomes what each of them needs at the time. On the same day, she has spoken to two women on opposing sides of an argument, and she has stroked and coddled and told each of them that they were right and she was supporting them. It has nothing to do with truth for Jodi; it has to do with making people see her as a source of inspiration, strength, and comfort. In a nutshell, it makes her feel needed. It's her sales-pitch.

For people like Jodi, all of that BS is a means to an end. Who knows what Jodi really thinks or feels? Who knows what "fill the empty cup" means? Isn't that similar to "embrace your true self", "live and let live", "one day at a time", "don't sweat the small stuff" and a bunch of other bumper sticker, one-size-fits-all sentiments?

Getting a C killed her because it screams "mediocrity". Actually, in the SO house, it means "probation". Jodi knows that if she doesn't change her game plan, she won't make it in the house. She's watched a lot of women get much better grades than that - women who, she believes, are her intellectual and emotional subordinates.

So, it's anyone's guess how (or if) Jodi will regroup.

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"RE: Jodi's "C""
Posted by c27 on 04-08-06 at 05:53 PM
I think Jodi is ACTING just like "baby Lisa"

What do you gals think??????


"RE: Jodi's "C""
Posted by liyhan on 04-08-06 at 08:26 PM
>Jodi doesn't want to play if
>she can't be in charge.
> She seems to honestly
>believe that she is smarter,
>quicker, and more qualified than
>everyone else.
>>Getting a C killed her because
>it screams "mediocrity".
> She's watched a lot
>of women get much better
>grades than that - women
>who, she believes, are her
>intellectual and emotional subordinates.


I agree with this post. I think that "false superiority" is the mask that Jodi needs to take off; the mask that says "I am superior even though I'm
-overweight (because a number doesn't matter)
-not loved by my dad (because my MOM is the 'real' good guy)
-will never have children (because I can adopt/get artificially inseminated)"
etc.
Once she takes off the mask, she will first have to consider that in fact, she, herself thinks those are the things that make someone "superior" and since she isn't (allegedly) those things, she is indeed inferior.
...or IS she...
If she is really in the right place and time to "start over", she will find out that in fact there are things about herself, that can help her claim, not her superiority, but her important place in the world. Then she will start feeling comfortable without the mask and we will like her more because she will like herself more. Right now she doesn't seem to like herself much.


"RE: Jodi's "C""
Posted by steelmagnolya on 04-08-06 at 06:07 PM
LAST EDITED ON 04-08-06 AT 06:55 PM (EST)

I cried laughing at Jodi when she was in the confessional and said "I feel attacked!". That is what Kim says when she is given constructive criticism. It shows the commonality these two have though I'm sure at the time you couldn't get Jodi to see that - since Kim is coming off as the spawn of satan in the house. As long as Jodi's stuff isn't ragedy she is there to look down on others. But when the stuff hits the fan, Jodi has to go get in bed. I hope she learns from all of this.


"RE: Jodi's "C""
Posted by lovemydogdude on 04-08-06 at 07:32 PM
Fill the empty cup WTF!? Yeah it's empty alright..cuz you're FAKE FAKE FAKE! I know what the C stands for but I can't say it here (pg13)(and I don't typically say that word anyways..)


"RE: Jodi's "C""
Posted by shermie on 04-08-06 at 08:25 PM
I am getting over Jodi. She is resistant, will not let herself get the point of her exercises, and it seems as if every time she is in the confessional, she is talking about leaving.
Well, waaahhh, Jodi. If you are so doggon miserable, and you feel sooo attacked, and you don't want to trust the process, then leave. Please. I am sick of hearing you and others whining about how you want to leave when things get a little tough.

"RE: Jodi's "C""
Posted by TruGoodness on 04-08-06 at 09:48 PM
This is probably going to be a controversial posting but I am wondering if Jodi has issued with her sexuality. Could it be she is secretly lesbian and denying it to herself.

The fact that she is so freaked out about putting down the mask makes me suspect she has issues about her sexuality or she was molested or something else she is trying to avoid.

TruGoodness
http://www.AmericanInventorSpot.com


"RE: Jodi's "C""
Posted by sharnina on 04-08-06 at 10:14 PM
Not that controversial considering every other post you read about Jodi questions her sexuality.

Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own. Matthew 6:34


"RE: Jodi's "C""
Posted by TruGoodness on 04-09-06 at 09:27 AM
Oh really. I just found these boards a few days ago.

Interesting that I am not the only one whose thinking that. Now I am going to have to go look at the older postings.

The stuff with stroking Christy and going to bed with her was weird.

TruGoodness
http://www.AmericanInventorSpot.com
AmericanInventorSpot.com


"RE: Jodi's "C""
Posted by YukonDH on 04-24-06 at 01:28 AM
Thank goodness I'm not the only one thinking she's a lesbian in denial!

"RE: Jodi's "C""
Posted by Stormchaser on 04-09-06 at 00:05 AM
Just read through the posts! Especially loved the sentiments of Seasoned Refinement and Baxtera! Ilanya is a joke and Jodi has a major superiority complex! What a combination! I think Jodi may well be 'masking' a sexual-identity crisis as none of the other issues tackled so far seem to inspire her to budge. Although she is working toward an 'A' in "Sexual Healing" . . . Sorry ...that was really bad but I can't resist.

"RE: Jodi's "C""
Posted by Twinkles on 04-10-06 at 06:35 AM
Way back in our message board posts, one or more people speculated that she looked like women in that stage of life when their hormones make them appear masculine and feminine at the same time.

Yesterday I was talking to a friend and we were speculating wildly about whatever the big secret might be. It would really help if we knew what Jodi's parent's looked like but there's a tiny chance she does have a physical difference, like a chromosome abnormality such as Turners syndrome. I forget exactly which one that is, maybe it gives you an extra male, Y chromosome. (i vaguely recall with Turners you end up slim and without much breast tissue and unable to get pregnant, but it could be another chromosome variation like that)

But basically we were talking about the possibilities of everything from non-heterosexuality, molestation she had been blocking out, to some genetic variation that would account for her physical masculinity that she might have been told about but has been trying to just brush off and live as though it doesn't matter. She could be denying any of those things.

We also figured they'll reveal it to us after she's done having her tantrum sucking down those cigarettes for a few days. I give it a week in tv time.


"RE: Jodi's "C""
Posted by BeeBe on 04-24-06 at 03:25 AM
Isn't she just fat?

I'm not seeing the other stuff - especially when they worked on her hair and makeup when she went to that dork-a-thon dating thing. I thought she looked better there and just treats herself and her appearance like crap the rest of the time. No?


"RE: Jodi's "C""
Posted by Twinkles on 04-24-06 at 04:59 AM
Well, she certainly is fat right now. And maybe it's a very simple matter. Could be that all she needs is diet and exercise.

I was speculating because she's got behaviors and appearances that are very consistent with situations or medical problems that I know about. Some of those problems have ways to deal with body image, control, food, or weight that are not addressed by any standard diet or exercise program.

My above comments were like many other posts. I was just wondering if she's getting appropriate counsel for her situation.