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"Article on next week's episode"

Posted by marmot on 06-29-04 at 11:19 AM
A friend sent me this:

Contestant doesn't buy 'Schmo' ruse

An Agoura Hills series, in which actors pretend to be contestants on a
fake reality show, failed to fool one of the two dupes -- a woman who
has monitored foreign elections.

By Dave Mason, June 27, 2004

On Tuesday's episode of "Joe Schmo 2," Ingrid Wiese, a contractor with
the United Nations and governmental agencies, will get confirmation
that her suspicions are correct: The "reality" show "Last Chance for
Love" is fake. "Joe Schmo 2" airs at 10 p.m. and is Spike TV's
highest-rated original series.

The show's premise is that Wiese and Tim Walsh, both Washington, D.C.,
residents, are being misled to believe they're on a reality show, "Last
Chance for Love." They're supposedly competing with other men and women
for the affections of bachelor Austin Newton Rice (actor Tim Herzog)
and bachelorette Piper Davidson (Valerie Azlynn). But actually,
everyone on the show except Wiese and Walsh are actors. (So far, Walsh
hasn't figured out he's being misled.) "I tortured the producers,"
Wiese joked, laughing.

The episodes showed executive producers Rhett Reese and Paul Wernick
and others in the control booth talking quickly to figure out how to
keep fooling Wiese, who voiced suspicions from the start.

There were clues

In a phone interview last week, Wiese, 30, praised the actors but said
she saw several clues that the series, filmed at an Agoura Hills
mansion, was fake. The last straw was when Cammy (played by Jana
Speaker) told her in the episode airing Tuesday that she was worried
about her pornographic past catching up with her. That was too
over-the-top for Wiese.

But even then, Wiese, who was enjoying the experience, said she didn't
tell the producers she knew she was being misled. "I didn't want them
to kick me off the show; I wanted to see what would happen next." But
Wiese said the producers could see she had the whole thing figured out,
and Tuesday, British host Derek Newcastle (played by American actor
Ralph Garman) lists all the things that made her suspicious and tells
her she's right. (The series will continue with the actors trying to
keep Walsh fooled.)

"A feeling of relief washed over me," Wiese said. "I realized, 'I'm not
crazy. I'm not paranoid.' "

Wiese's suspicions about the series began soon after a casting director
followed Wiese and a friend out of a bar in Washington, D.C. When Wiese
asked if she could e-mail back a questionnaire the director requested,
she was given a Yahoo address.

"They were being very secretive about the origin of this show," Wiese
said. "We didn't even know the name of the show." The casting director
simply told Wiese it was a reality relationship show.

"My initial feeling was this was going to be a comedy," Wiese said
about her first day of filming in March in Agoura Hills. "I was told
this was an MTV production. I didn't think the other people were
actors, but I never took this seriously."

She said she came on the show for the adventure and a payment of
$10,000. But her suspicions rose again when she asked fellow contestant
Veronica how she got on the show. The actress playing Veronica slipped
and said she got a call from her agent.

Other clues followed. Fellow contestant Ernie Gallo, the supposed heir
to Julio Gallo, got away with interrupting Newcastle, the host, with a
Shakespearean quote. Strangely, that scene wasn't reshot even though
other scenes interrupted by distractions such as airplanes had to be
refilmed, Wiese said.

She also got suspicious when Ernie (Steve Mallory) gave gifts in
envelopes to the other contestants. "I thought, 'How did he know the
exact number of envelopes to give out?' " Wiese said.

Wiese said she also thought it was odd that her fellow female
contestants gave what sounded like scripted monologues as they talked
to Austin during the first elimination round.

"I knew Ernie was fake; I knew Cammy was fake. I knew Tim was real,"
Wiese said.

In addition, Wiese said she caught some of the actors being referred to
by their real names instead of their characters' names.

Those characters include a drunk, Rita (Natasha Leggero) -- Wiese, who
used to work in bars, didn't think she was really drunk -- and Bryce
the stalker (Kevin Kirkpatrick), who kept professing his love for Piper
even after she kicked him off the show.

Take it down a notch

In another interview earlier this month, Reese said the producers had
to walk the tightrope between making the series a funny spoof of
reality shows and believable for Wiese and Walsh, a bartender and
entrepreneur. Reese said he told the actors to leave the over-the-top
scenes for specific scripted moments and not be outrageous all the
time.

Despite her appearance on "Joe Schmo 2," Wiese said she doesn't feel
like she's suddenly famous. "I'm not looking for a career in Hollywood.
I'm happy with my job."

Wiese does various contracts for governmental agencies and the United
Nations in conflict resolutions, work that has taken her to Bosnia and
the former Soviet republic of Georgia, where she monitored elections.

Wiese, who has a master's degree in international relations, said she
didn't know whether her education necessarily made it more difficult
for the "Joe Schmo" producers to fool her. She noted Walsh also is well
educated.

"The fact that I'm a woman and am intuitive may have made it harder,"
Wiese said.


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"RE: Article on next week's episode"
Posted by galcyclist on 06-29-04 at 11:24 AM
Thanks for sharing! Goes to show you what can happen with a smart woman...

"RE: Article on next week's episode"
Posted by Pretty_Kitty on 06-29-04 at 01:30 PM
VERY interesting I love the show but can never figure out when its on so I end up watching the first episode again and again I will be watching out for the next one though. I almost died during the pearl necklace ceremony I though my sides were going to split

"RE: Article on next week's episode"
Posted by CantStandToLook on 06-29-04 at 02:02 PM
Thanks for sharing the article but can you say Duh??

It's so very obvious to anyone that watches the show, she wasn't buying it after a few of the early slipups.

She still makes for great tv though, love to watch her make the producers squirm. This time, They're the ones on the Truman Show and she's the one pulling the strings. It's a nice turn around that I doubt we'll see again.

How they'll pull of a Joe Schmoe 3 should they try, I'll never know.


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"Well put!"
Posted by Sweater_Puffs on 07-03-04 at 03:13 AM
LAST EDITED ON 07-03-04 AT 03:13 AM (EST)

"love to watch her make the producers squirm. This time, They're the ones on the Truman Show and she's the one pulling the strings. It's a nice turn around"


"RE: Article on next week's episode"
Posted by starshyn99 on 06-30-04 at 10:02 AM
Well, at least this tells us that Ingrid does not get kicked off the show. In this article, she said that she questioned Bryce because he kept saying he loved Piper even after he was kicked off the show. This alludes that Ingrid is still on when Bryce is kicked off.

"RE: Article on next week's episode"
Posted by Traces on 06-30-04 at 01:34 PM
I have to think that the producers chose Ingrid because she is so smart. I mean why would they pick her if they really didn't want someone who would see through the charade? The best part of "The Truman Show" was watching the character figure it out, and we never got to experience that in the first Joe Schmo Show. The people who find contestants for these shows are very thorough. I mean look at this chick's bio! And why would they have the actors be more outrageous this time around, when the first cast was so much more subtle? I think this is what the producers wanted in the first place, and it's great! I love it!

"You know, that might be the answer - to act boastfully about something we ought to be ashamed of. That's a trick that never seems to fail." -Lieutenant Colonel Korn


"or???"
Posted by CantStandToLook on 06-30-04 at 06:25 PM
Could it be that Ingrid does get kicked off the show...i.e. not selected by Austin. Maybe they do like a lot of other reality shows and sequester them in another house somewhere. It's a long shot but comes to mind because if one or the other is kicked off the show...how would they be keeping in touch for her to know these things or ask him these things???

Makes you think doesn't it?



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"RE: or???"
Posted by erickman on 06-30-04 at 11:46 PM
>Could it be that Ingrid does
>get kicked off the show...i.e.
>not selected by Austin. Maybe
>they do like a lot
>of other reality shows and
>sequester them in another house
>somewhere. It's a long shot
>but comes to mind because
>if one or the other
>is kicked off the show...how
>would they be keeping in
>touch for her to know
>these things or ask him
>these things???
>
>Makes you think doesn't it?
bingo the whole show was only suposed to last 13 days, so they could tell her it is a fake then let her see the town for a week, then go to the last show and get the money and go home.



"RE: Article on next week's episode"
Posted by ladro on 07-01-04 at 01:30 AM
LAST EDITED ON 07-01-04 AT 01:31 AM (EST)

The reference to Bryce getting kicked off the show was said parenthetically by the writer of the article, not by Ingrid.


"RE: Article on next week's episode"
Posted by I_AM_HE on 07-01-04 at 01:54 AM
"I'm not looking for a career in Hollywood"

yeah, right. if that's not a *hint, hint*, what is? "next, on Washed Up, Shameless DAWs, Ingrid Weiss..."

and good lord, she sounds even more obnoxious here than she does on the show.

i still am not sure what she means by the girls' "scripted" speeches though (unless there was a lot more to them than what was shown, which is possible) - none sounded any more scripted than Ingrid's own. I mean, tehy KNOW they're on a dating show, at elast from the first show, if not before, they should have some idea that they're going to have to plead their case. only an IDIOT would not have taken some time to think of it.
oh, and our "genius" Ingrid, I guess.



"RE: Article on next week's episode"
Posted by MegsSweetPea on 07-01-04 at 10:31 AM
I agree. I don't think their speeches were anymore "scripted" than hers. The only thing that I believe made her question was the use of the word "memorize" in Cami's speech. Personally I think she took Cami's speech the wrong way and then falsly accused the rest of them, which was unfortunate. Eleanor's speech didn't sound rehearsed, neither did Rita's. Ambrosia's was a bit iffy if she's got a mindset that it's scripted, but the other two weren't even close.

Bleh, I dunno, Ingrid bothers me sometimes cause she's just too perfect about figuring things out.


"RE: Article on next week's episode"
Posted by Loree on 07-01-04 at 03:05 PM
>
>Bleh, I dunno, Ingrid bothers me
>sometimes cause she's just too
>perfect about figuring things out.
>


I agree. She seems to be bragging so much about figuring it out that I want to see her surprised by something. I want to see the writers figure out a way to show her she isn't as smart as she thinks she is.


"RE: Article on next week's episode"
Posted by erickman on 07-01-04 at 06:49 PM
well the writers of that show suck, they got lucky with matt he just liked to go along like a good phish head.

"RE: Article on next week's episode"
Posted by covertwo on 07-03-04 at 11:43 PM
she was paid 10,000 to be on the show - that's a clue right from the beginning it seems


"RE: Article on next week's episode"
Posted by Rabies on 07-06-04 at 00:44 AM
It's interesting how you want to knock down someone for being intelligent.

Did I say interesting? I meant sad.