I dunno, it just didn't seem to flow all that well.

They spent a lot of time redeeming Amber's drunken state, defending her and saying she's not an alcoholic. One also got the feeling that they wanted to rip Tina Fabulous a lot more than they did.

They showed taped messages of Kirsten and Jen. Pretty lame stuff. The Audience seemed to have a negative reaction to Kirsten.

Cristina DID get ripped quite a bit, though. Especially for her aggressivess and the age difference. But then came some defense for the aggressiveness (from other girls), so this sorta went lame, too.

One thing that got me, though: I have rarely seen such out of context editing to produce commercials and teasers in my life! For example, the commercial where Kirsten is saying "I heard some things said about me"... was made to look like a live and real confrontation... it wasn't. It was taped, and that remark just zipped by and really wasn't a thing. In many of the teasers (to bring us back after a commercial break), the snippets shown suggeted a direction and level of conversation (and cattiness) that just never materialized.

Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

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It was disappointing Dawg.

I was waiting for Kirsten to say "You are all a bunch of bitches who are jealous of me...na na na na na" LOL

OK well maybe not. Christina got the worst of it and she looked like she was going to start crying but she kept herself composed. I have a very bad feeling he is going to pick Kirsten from seeing those previews

I agree. Like the part that looked like Cristina and Tina were getting into it, and it turned out Cristina was responding to a question.

Cristina is batting a thousand, though. She has looked like a beyotch on EVERY episode and she kept the string going last night.

What does every one else think about the messages that Jen and Kirsten left for the other girls?

I really thought before that he ended up choosing Jen. But I'm not so sure any more. In her video, Jen seemed to be speaking in the past, and said that he hoped he realized that she had fallen in love with him.

Kirsten seemed to be really happy in her message, and was practically glowing. She also said that she had come on the show to find true love, and that she did find it. (She strikes me as the type that would not be able to hide her bitterness if she was going to be dumped on national TV)

Would love to know when the messages were taped. It looks like after the shows began airing, since Kirsten mentioned some of the girls making some rude comments.

I definitely think the producers/editors really don't care for Kirsten. They had a catty comment from her in nearly every segment. They hardly showed any clips of Jen from the house. And I loved the commercials where they said it was a showdown between the sweet and the shrewd.

I hope the preview where Andrew's brother was talking to him, and the brother didn't seem to like the girl was concerning Kirsten. I think the family's preference played a big part in Andrew's decision.

Please let it be Jen in the end. After watching Jenna win Survivor, I'm not sure that I can handle seeing another seemingly self-centered, spoiled girl come out on top. Guess we'll find out on Sunday.

I also noticed Kirsten saying that she did find true love. BLECH!
Please don't let it be her. Again, it's all in the editing. Now they have the girl everyone likes versus the girl everyone dislikes. Makes for better tv (at least they think so).

GO JEN!!

** And I loved the commercials where they said it was a showdown between the sweet and the shrewd. **

Or is that SHREW?

Does anyone remember when we were all positive that Charlie was going to win because of the editing? This is what is happening again and they are forcing the B**ch down our throats. Jen is going to win! Mind you I think she deserves better than Andrew, he is a sleeze.

What does every one else think about the messages that Jen and Kirsten left for the other girls?

I said this in the other thread (the Kirsten interview), that the article said that Andrew was supposed to show up for this show (as Trista showed up for the "Men Tell All" show, and proceeded to humiliate stalker Russ by pointing out that she didn't invite him to the bedroom, while she did invite Charlie and Ryan to bed). But Andrew didn't show up, so IMHO these tapes were played instead.

When were they made? I don't know.

And the editing DOES tend to suggest Jen will be the "surprise" winner.

Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged